Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

House Speaker Hastert Should Stay
NewsMax ^ | 10/3/06 | NewsMax

Posted on 10/03/2006 5:05:01 PM PDT by wagglebee

Critics are calling for Rep. Dennis Hastert to step down as Speaker of the House over his handling of the Rep. Mark Foley affair. NewsMax strongly disagrees with that sentiment.

The Washington Times, a conservative voice in the nation's capital, has joined some Democrats in criticizing the Illinois Republican for not doing enough to investigate questions about Foley's e-mail exchanges with a former House page. Hastert must "resign his speakership at once," the Times demanded in a lead editorial published Tuesday.

But while we have disagreed with Hastert over Congressional spending practices, we feel that in the Foley matter he has done nothing that can be construed as malfeasance.

The fact is, the Republican leadership took swift action when Foley's salacious communications via instant messages became known just last week.

Last year the Republicans became aware of e-mails Foley exchanged in 2005, but determined that while they were "over friendly," they did not include overtly sexual references.

House Republicans asked Foley to stop making contact with the pages and he said he would.

It is important to note that several media outlets also learned about the same e-mails the House Republicans learned of last year. But these media outlets deemed them too innocuous to merit coverage. The St. Petersburg Times, for instance, decided the e-mails were nothing more than "friendly chit-chat."

It is clear that Hastert and the Republican leadership did not ignore this matter, as minor as it seemed to the media outlets. They instructed Foley to cease communicating with the teenage page.

It wasn't until last Friday – just weeks before the election that Florida Republican Foley was expected to win – that an unknown person provided ABC News with instant messages Foley had exchanged with another teenage page in 2003. Those messages, unlike the e-mails, did contain salacious sexual talk.

Upon hearing of ABC's instant messages, Foley resigned.

Hastert issued a statement on Monday that declared: "The instant messages, reportedly between Congressman Foley and a former page sent in 2003, are vile and repulsive to me, and to my colleagues. No one in the Republican leadership, not [Rep. John Shimkus, R-Ill., who chairs a board of House members overseeing the page program], saw those messages until last Friday when ABC News released them to the public. When they were released, Congressman Foley resigned. And I'm glad he did; if he had not, I would have demanded his expulsion from the House of Representatives."

Hastert also asked for an investigation to determine if Foley violated any federal laws, and asked Florida Gov. Jeb Bush to determine what state laws were broken.

It is clear, then, that Hastert has acted appropriately, and that the only culprit is Foley himself, who deceived the Republican leadership – and the nation – by adopting a strong public stance against pornography and child exploitation.

Foley was one of Congress' foremost opponents of child pornography, and chaired the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children. He also sponsored legislation to change federal sex offender laws.

We also feel there could likely be an untold story behind the sudden revelation of the instant messages so close to Election Day – a story involving Democratic attempts to torpedo the campaign of a Republican almost assured of victory in November. Already Democratic candidates are using the Foley case to buttress their campaigns for Senate and House seats all across the country. How convenient.

Rush Limbaugh told his radio audience that the Democrats' handwringing over the Foley scandal is part of a carefully coordinated attack designed to help the Democrats in the coming election.

"I'm going to tell you what I think is going on," Rush said. "I think the Clinton war room is back up in full speed . . ."

"This has more to do with helping Nancy Pelosi and the House Democrats than protecting teenagers with whom Foley was communicating."

That's all the more reason Hastert should remain at his post and not force Republicans to switch horses so close to the election.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; dennishastert; foley; markfoley; washingtontimes
"I'm going to tell you what I think is going on," Rush said. "I think the Clinton war room is back up in full speed . . ."

"This has more to do with helping Nancy Pelosi and the House Democrats than protecting teenagers with whom Foley was communicating."

That's all the more reason Hastert should remain at his post and not force Republicans to switch horses so close to the election.

Yes it is.

1 posted on 10/03/2006 5:05:02 PM PDT by wagglebee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: LibLieSlayer; msnimje; MNJohnnie; kellynla; palmer; KJC1; what's up; onyx

Ping.

I was wrong before and I don't mind admitting it.


2 posted on 10/03/2006 5:05:59 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

I don't want to see Hastert replaced over this, but I am not a big fan. That being said, there's no way I want him replaced before the election. That would be absurd.


3 posted on 10/03/2006 5:07:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

I agree unless there is further damaging information. But from what I know now he should stay.


4 posted on 10/03/2006 5:08:18 PM PDT by Parley Baer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

Earlier today I thought Hastert should go, I've since changed my mind.

I do hope that if the GOP manages to keep the House and/or Senate that they will start following the agenda that their conservative base expects of them.


5 posted on 10/03/2006 5:09:08 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
"I'm going to tell you what I think is going on," Rush said. "I think the Clinton war room is back up in full speed . . ." "This has more to do with helping Nancy Pelosi and the House Democrats than protecting teenagers with whom Foley was communicating." That's all the more reason Hastert should remain at his post and not force Republicans to switch horses so close to the election.

He couldn't be more right. The Clinton's apparently have one of their hacks spamming Republican voters tonight telling them to urge Hastert be ousted.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1713124/posts?page=1

Hastert should stay, we should make sure everyone knows these Leftists snakes let a pedophile stay in office for political gain while Republicans promptly kicked him out on receiving the info the Dems had for at LEAST months. You want a difference between the parties? None clearer then that one.

Vote Republican this fall and toss the scum in the Dems to the curbs.

6 posted on 10/03/2006 5:11:32 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

I hope Hastert (since the Speaker is in charge of the page program) issued a general advisory to all the pages to advise him personally if they got any inappropriate mail in the future.


7 posted on 10/03/2006 5:12:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

I noted your comment above, and thought you might have. It also occurred to me that you might think I was teeing off on your earlier comment. I wasn't. Sorry if it seemed like it.

It's fairly easy to make a judgement based on the information available. On this issue, I knew we would have to wait until the dust settled. We won't be sure it's all out there until after the election.


8 posted on 10/03/2006 5:16:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

time for Repubs/conservatives to hang together and fight back against the Dem dirty tricks. i am proud that Foley had to resign - unlike the Prez who played around with the intern and stayed in office - only to pardon the congressman, Mel Reynolds, who went to the Big House for playing around with the 16 year old. we have standards - the other side has none.


9 posted on 10/03/2006 5:20:16 PM PDT by avital2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: avital2

That is true. I am glad that our side polices itself. I don't lament the idea that our people are held to a higher standard. I want them held to a high standard. 'Course I'd like to see the left held to that standard as well.


10 posted on 10/03/2006 5:26:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

Isn't nice to be able to disagree and remain civil... something du slime cannot do!

LLS


11 posted on 10/03/2006 5:49:35 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: LibLieSlayer
Hastert displays a lack of understanding as in - he apparently did not know the difference between e-mail and instant messaging. From a PR standpoint - there's not that much you can do to turn this matter around - since all of the investigations will take longer than the time remaining before election day to bear fruit. I suggest that Hastert take a polygraph and subject himself to any questions on the Foley matter that a panel from the Washington Post, Washington Times and Chicago Tribune could come up with, subject to time constraints. It would be the most effective way to buttress his case and get attention back to the important issues.
12 posted on 10/03/2006 6:34:29 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

But, but, does he wear boxers?


13 posted on 10/03/2006 6:35:05 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

BUMP


14 posted on 10/03/2006 8:45:31 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Go Katherine "ALL your base are belong to us." Go here: http://www.ElectHarris.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

Thanks for sharing that. The perfect political party wouldn't have too many members.


15 posted on 10/04/2006 3:50:44 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Wally_Kalbacken

I disagree that Congressman Hastert needs to take a polygraph and subject himself to any questions those newspapers could ask. That wouldn't persuade those reporters a bit.

He might have a "lack of understanding" about email and instant messaging, but he has no lack of understanding on leadership and representing his constituents. I know. I'm one of them, and he's absolutely the best for me.

Now, I would say much different things about the way I'm represented by Senators Durbin and Obama. Sigh.


16 posted on 10/04/2006 4:02:11 AM PDT by Ray'sBeth
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

this seems to be a human issue and hopefully will sort itself out in due time...

m&s


17 posted on 10/04/2006 4:04:31 AM PDT by mooseandsquirrel1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
I was wrong before and I don't mind admitting it.

I really admire that.

Too often people can't bring themselves to make that admission.

Well done!

18 posted on 10/04/2006 4:06:52 AM PDT by airborne (Show me your friends and I'll show you your future.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Wally_Kalbacken

To do what you suggests serves the left and satan. No thanks; Denny stays and 99% of us support him!

LLS


19 posted on 10/04/2006 4:12:59 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

This is a bad blow to our side.

Foley deserves a bullet.

Not just for lusting after children, which is bad enough, but for aiding and abetting the enemy in time of war.

In a just world, Hastert would take Foley out on the west steps of the US Capitol, put a bullet into the back of his head in front of the news media (big ceremony, Foley kneeling down, blindfolded), and that would be the end of it.

We could move on to the real business of this election: keeping the domestic Al-Qaeda from winning more seats in congress.


20 posted on 10/04/2006 4:24:19 AM PDT by samtheman (The Democrats are Instituting their own Guest Voter Program.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson