Posted on 10/04/2006 8:59:53 AM PDT by dvan
We had a neighbor, when I lived in DC, who was part of the secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents' plane.
Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ole boy" womanizer.
Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.
The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current President Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly them around. When the president flies, there are several planes that also go. One carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft.
Both Bush's made it a point to stay home on holidays, so the Air Force and security people could have a day with their families.
WHAT WAS: Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with them. Sometimes, Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean spiritedness, ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother's presence.
Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady.The consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her.
Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her life.Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals should, but they all loathed her, and wanted to be on a different detail. Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as a whole.
Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks Hillary would use against her husband.They were embarrassed for his sake, by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors, Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could hear what she was saying.Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife.
It was crystal clear that the Clinton's neither liked nor respected each other, and this was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a "marriage of convenience."
Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her gravely.
Bill Clinton did in fact have charisma, and ccasionally would smile at, or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them.
His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. He was polite, but not kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody trusted him.
WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN: Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton.They were more friendly toward each other than either of them were towards former President Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very close in a political way.
Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary, but soon after the election she had her "pegged", and no longer liked her, or associated with her, except for events that were politically obligatory
Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred was bitter, and this was long before he announced for the Presidency. This hatred was something that he and Hillary had in common. They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail. Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton did have some good qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had none, in the view of their security details. Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security detail.
He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion. Al got angry at his offspring and pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like them?"
Word of this insult by the former Vice-president quickly spread, and he became as disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed Al Gore would not be elected President,and they really did have private celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won.
This was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat.
WHAT IS: Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they concede that she is perhaps the nicest, and most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers.
She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation.There is nothing false about her.
This is her genuine nature. Her security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North."
Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect, and he always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail.
Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail, and he helps serve their meals. He sits with them, eats with them, and talks with them. He knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection.
He always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers. They believe that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone more than President Bush. Most of them did not know they would feel this way, until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent.
It has never changed since he began his Presidency. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.
He [Bill Clinton] was polite, but not kind.
It's more than just not insulting...
The presidency is an institution. The president is one man, and should be treated as such.
When the "institution" of the presidency is tarnished by criminal and/or low-class behavior on the part of an individual president, there is no longer any need to pretend the b@astard is anything other than a low-class jack@ss or an outright criminal.
The agent was at his post one day when Hillry Clitnon came by for the first time. The agent could not contain himself being the gentleman he is and says to Hillary Clinton "morning ma'am". To which Hillary Clinton replied "f off".
Besides all the things wrong with the Clintons the most interesting thing is that their marriage is such a fake, a farce and a sham. It's a joke and it's common knowledge that they have not slept in the same room for years. When Clinton was in the White House Bill and Hillary never even stayed in the same hotel room.
We can't have the Clinton's near the White house again. They are much more disfunctional than a queer that gets drunk and talks dirty to 16 year old bboys.
Not at all, but the 'damage' you think may happen would be outweighed by the fact that the damage that those two have been doing would be stopped.
South America. Chile maybe?
What are you talking about they do. Lady Bird Johnson still has Secret Service and most Americans either don't even know who she is or if they do, they are unaware that she is still alive. The law was changed in the 90s that presidents AFTER Clinton would only get ten years, but I'm fairly certain that in the wake of the War on Terror that will be changed.
Would it? Really?
See #87.
See #87.
I understand your point, but would like to take it a step further. I personally believe we can handle a woman president or even a "b*tch" president...what we can't handle is a president as ruthless and leftist as this deceptive woman "b*tch" who masquerades as "centrist".
We dare not give out personal information about them...or enemies will try and exploit it if they can. Exploiting common decency by itself is not something they can do of course...but knowing that the President is prone to hug certain personnel, or go to certain aircraft and tell them thank you on a regular basis can give an enemy a leg up on his movement and likely activities which will let them have more opportunity to attack or get at him.
It is my understanding that they all still do...and should.
"I heard very much the same about GHW Bush and Barbra. I had heard Barbra referred to as 'the Grandma everyone wished they had'."
Back in the mid-90s, I had an Air Force NCO working for me who had spent some time on the White House Comm staff during the Bush 41 years. Whenever asked, she made of point of saying, "we're not allowed to discuss their personal lives" [meaning the Bush family], but she was willing to tell one story. She said she was on a team laying fiber optic cable at the Kennebunkport compound, and in Maine it gets cold in the wintertime. She said all of a sudden, everybody behind her stopped talking, so she stood up in the middle of the ditch and looked behind her over the dirt bank -- and there was Barbara Bush (alone) bringing the crew a tray of mugs and a big pot of hot chocolate...
When was this originally written?
It definately isn't new.
See #105.
The Democrat Eugene McCarthy endorsed Reagan in 1980. When asked why, he replied: "Because Reagan will not confuse the president with the presidency."
I think that is where most of this comes from. The Predidents make contact with a lot of people during their 4-8 years. You can not be on guard 24/7 all the time. You personality will come thru. If you slam someone or show kindness it is noticed and shared. I doubt these stories come from just SS or 1 or 2 people. It's probably stories that have been shared by many.
I've often wondered what photos the KGB took of Bill when he went to Moscow during the time he was allegedly at Oxford. I'm especially curious to know who or what else was in these photos...
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