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Mexico warns U.S. of referral to UN over border fencing plan
Xinhua ^ | 10/05/06

Posted on 10/05/2006 2:22:13 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: TigerLikesRooster

Is this action by Mexico another indication that the USA is headed toward one world government? Just wait and see, especially if the Democrats take over the congress, we will be on our way to paying dues to the UN, and we will be receiving increased pressure to join the rest of the socialist world.


41 posted on 10/05/2006 4:11:16 AM PDT by olezip
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To: Uncle Ike

The Saudis are also building a fence. Don't hear too muc about that one.

23 km at 126 mil. That's a little more than 5 million a kilometer. IIRC it costs approximately a million dollars a mile to build a highway.

Funny thing this fence. The Soviets built it to prevent people from escaping. The Mexicans don't want us to build one because they want people to escape.


42 posted on 10/05/2006 4:16:12 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Freedom by its nature cannot be imposed, it must be chosen")
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To: Uncle Ike

U.S. veto


43 posted on 10/05/2006 4:17:37 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: moose2004
Perhaps a 50% tax on remittances to Mexico would help us along with that fence.

What say you, Mr. Aguilar?
44 posted on 10/05/2006 4:20:47 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: Joe Boucher

" U.S. veto "

It's my understanding that, according to the UN Charter, no member of the Security Council is allowed to vote on (or veto) any issue in which they are a direct party.

We're stuck with relying on the Brits to "do the right thing"....


45 posted on 10/05/2006 4:22:10 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Stop the "tyranny of the 'offended' " -- say what you mean and stand by it!)
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To: TomGuy; All

Excellent reference links Tom! I don't think that many realize that only 300 miles of fencing has actually been funded and the real reason why any EFFECTIVE fencing to secure ACROSS the border will never happen.

For those interested,I went search through the SPP information because I recall reading that the SPP/NAU Agenda is not to secure across the border but around the perimeter of the continent. They even take it a step further to elaborate why.....

"President Bush described the significance of the SPP as putting forward a common commitment "to markets and democracy, freedom and trade, and mutual prosperity and security." The policy framework articulated by the three leaders is a significant commitment that will benefit from broad discussion and advice. The Task Force is pleased to provide specific advice on how the partnership can be pursued and realized.

To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a NORTH AMERICAN community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and AN OUTER SECURITY PERIMETER WITHIN WHICH THE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE, PRODUCTS, AND CAPITAL WILL BE LEGAL, ORDERLY AND SAFE. ITS GOAL WILL BE TO GUARANTEE A FREE, SECURE, JUST AND PROSPEROUS...NORTH AMERICA."


In the following text, one of the chairmen referred to is Former Massachusetts governor and assistant attorney general William Weld.

"The task force recommended developing a “North American community” with a common biometric border pass that would allow expedited passage through customs, immigration and airport security throughout North America.

“The governments of Canada, Mexico and the United States should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramatically reducing the need for physical scrutiny of traffic, travel and trade within North America,” the chairmen’s statement said.

The chairman also recommend harmonized visa and asylum regulations, joint inspection of container traffic and “synchronized screening and tracking of people, goods and vessels, including integrated ‘watch’ lists,” the chairmen said.

“Like free trade a decade ago, a common security perimeter for North America is an ambitious but achievable goal that will require specific policy, statutory and procedural changes in all three nations,” they said. "


In addition to the perimeter security agenda, the following link is for an excellent article and includes the following text:

"Following his election in 2000, Mexican president Vicente Fox told an audience in California that his government would "use all our persuasion and all our talent to bring together the U.S., Canadian and Mexican governments so that in five or ten years, the border is totally open to the free movement of workers." Fox was similarly candid in a 2002 address to an audience in Madrid: "Eventually, our long-range objective is to establish with the United States, but also with Canada, our other regional partner, an ensemble of connections and institutions similar to those created by the European Union."

The actions and statements of some U.S. politicians have been similarly telling. The Bush administration's proposed "guest worker" program, which is amnesty for illegal immigrants, is a key part of this trinational integration scheme.

Many of President Bush's staunch supporters, who see him as a flinty-eyed custodian of our national security, are puzzled over what they see as his uncharacteristic squishiness on the issue of protecting our borders. They don't understand that George W. Bush has long been a proponent of amalgamating the United States with Mexico, and is an unabashed proponent of regional integration as well.

The SPP, the instrument of that betrayal, does not have any broad base of public support beyond the tiny cluster of political, corporate, and bureaucratic elites that gave us NAFTA and CAFTA.

Americans by the millions have been infuriated by the spectacle of illegal aliens marching in the streets of our cities demanding they be given a fast track to citizenship. Our fellow citizens must be educated about the real design behind the drive for illegal-alien amnesty, and mobilized to defeat both amnesty and the ongoing drive to create the SPP."

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/americannworegions01may06.shtml


46 posted on 10/05/2006 4:24:58 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

They need to fight the fence because the mexican ecconomy is in worse shape and a fence also points out that Mexican law does not allow americans to buy real estate in mexico.


47 posted on 10/05/2006 4:29:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: monkapotamus


Thanks, its a beaut.

( And I love that movie.)

48 posted on 10/05/2006 4:37:03 AM PDT by Condor51 ("Alot" is NOT a word and doesn't mean "many". It is 'a lot', two separate words.)
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To: mvpel
Mexico must have neglected to read Article 2, paragraph 4 of the UN Charter: 4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

It's the second part of that clause that the Mexicans are counting on '...or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations." The purpose of the UN is to destroy the sovereignty of the US>

49 posted on 10/05/2006 4:41:59 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
WASHINGTON — Sen. John Cornyn, a Texas Republican and key liaison to the White House on immigration, said Tuesday that 700 miles of fencing approved by Congress for the United States' southern border will probably not be built because of a lack of money and other practical considerations. "It's one thing to authorize. It's another thing to actually appropriate the money and do it," he said.

Cornyn predicted that some fencing would be built as part of a comprehensive strategy that includes more Border Patrol agents, more technology, more detention facilities and various physical barriers.

"There's different kinds of fencing. . . . There's the old fence post and barbed wire, and then there's the virtual fence, which is a combination of physical barriers, people and technology, and I think, in the end, that will probably be how this is addressed," he said.

Sadly I must agree with this idiot. Not that the fence should NOT be built, but that the funding will NOT be forthcoming.

IHMO, it all just another big:

dog pony

As an aside, and with all due respect, I'm afraid that Cornyn has been smoking from the same pipe that W and both are halucinating or at the very least, trying to blow some smoke up our a*ses.

VIRTUAL FENCE? Yeah right. Here's One:

pic_hh_illegals_dsc00304

The Only reality about a "virtual" fence is that "VIRTUALLY" anyone can get thru.

They must think we all just fell off the turnip truck or brain dead.

50 posted on 10/05/2006 4:43:51 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist ("INFIDEL AND PROUD OF IT.")
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To: yankeedame
My pleasure...I have to get the "early morning sillyness" out of my system somehow. : )
51 posted on 10/05/2006 4:44:49 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: angkor

Go light and go often....


52 posted on 10/05/2006 4:50:01 AM PDT by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: longtermmemmory
Mexico's economy is greatly dependent on the flow----

One of Mexico's largest exports is Illegals to the US.
One of Mexico's largest imports is cash from Illegals exported to the US.

Of course, Mexico doesn't want anything to hamper that.

Vincente should have spent his term in office building a Mexican economy with business development and job growth.

Until that happens, Mexico is going to continue to export its poor.

And exporting the poor and making them the problem of the US is an added benefit to Mexico.

They don't have to provide medical services. The Gringos do that.

They don't have to provide social services. The Gringos do that.

They don't have to provide educational services. The Gringos do that.
53 posted on 10/05/2006 4:51:58 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This is a letter I wrote, but haven't sent, to Senator Cornyn. Needless to say, I am very furstrated over the illegal aliens situation here in Texas.
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Well, it's September, all of our little kiddies are back in school and a hint of Fall is in the air. Did I say, "our little kiddies?" They're not really all our "kiddies." Catholic Charities of Dallas was on TV in June and said they were processing four hundred families a month of illegal aliens, getting the little mexicans ready for their first day of public school. Yep, they were teaching the little tortilla munchers to say "cat" instead of "gato" when they saw a picture of the same.

Meanwhile, imagine my surprise during my early morning walk when I came upon a multi-story building being constructed within a mile of my home. I noted such an elaborate structure was surely a hospital. I thought, "I won't have far to go in case of an emergency." Upon completion I found that it is an elementary school. Within one mile, due West of the new elementary school, is another new building of similar scope. It's a pre-kinder garden learning center. No doubt being able to point to a picture of a "gato" and saying "cat" isn't insufficient (but just barely) to launch another new citizen into the American Dream.

In other news: Dallas ISD is being investigated again. This time for employees using DISD credit cards to purchase thousands of dollars of personal items. Northwest ISD near Fort Worth is offering new teachers graduating from college $5,000 a month to walk in the door, the principal of a local school used tax payer's money to pay veterinarian bills for his dog because the dog is the school's mascot, and Carrollton-Farmers Branch ISD (the ISD I'm taxed by) raised the assessment rate on my house to make up for Governor Rick Perry's heralded new school funding program that was supposed to ease the tax burden on home owners. After all, they've got to pay for the two (that I know of) new "gato" learning centers.

I know that I'm getting old and cranky. But, it seems inherently wrong to charge home owners such a myself with the burden of providing social services and an education for any mexican who has enough energy to break our laws by invading my country and then march in the streets demanding such rights. If I simply abandon my home, the one I spent 30 years paying for, I save myself about a thousand dollars a month. Almost one half of that being school taxes. Isn't that what happened to Detroit? The politicians simply taxed people like me out of their homes. And look what a great place Detroit has become.

Because of the Robinhood Plan, politicians in Austin determine which school districts get my money. So you can imagine my chagrin upon learning that some school districts in Texas are teaching the little mexcians to pledge alliance to the flag of mexico. So much for assimilating the new citizens. If you really want to pay for educating the little mexicans, confiscate some of the 24 billion dollars wired back to mexico each year. Stop taxing me out of my home.

In other news, the Labor Department says that school teachers are more highly compensated than engineers. Yep, that's right. A semiliterate graduate from a teacher's college is better compensated than a person who can actually add a column of numbers. Long gone are the "Laura Ingalls" days of school teaching. The education industry in the United States is nothing more than a works project for budding socialist. If I wanted my money to go to the DNC, I would make contributions directly to them. Instead it's laundered through the education industry. It's time to curtail the education industry and let all of those people who are sucking the life-blood out of our economy do what they are qualified to do; work in retail.

To cap things off, the idiot John McCain, Senator from al-Qaeda, is more worried about the supposed rights of head-hacking-off terrorists than he is for the for the safety of the citizens of the United States. All of which begs the question, "Do you have to be an idiot to be a politician, or is it a symptom of being in close proximity with Democrats and the national news media?"

I will not be writing you any more. It's a waste of time, envelopes, and stamps. Take me off of your mailing list. I do not want to receive any more boiler plate from your office informing me of what a great job you're doing. I'm ashamed to admit that I ever voted Republican.

A disgruntled constituent,

PS If black market labor in the form of illegal aliens is good for the economy, then imagine how the economy would boom if we subverted all of the laws of the country and simply refused to pay taxes.

54 posted on 10/05/2006 5:17:49 AM PDT by Texas Jack
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To: Just mythoughts

If this even causes Bush to flinch, I am done with him. We'd better treat that threat as the joke it is.


55 posted on 10/05/2006 5:26:28 AM PDT by bust (A biased media is the biggest threat to our democracy...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Good luck with that one, Vicente! (Let me know when you get the votes in the Security Council. Ooops, that's right the US has a VETO.)


56 posted on 10/05/2006 5:32:55 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Uncle Ike

Irony gives me a headache sometimes...

I would actually love to see Mexico bring this up to the U.N. officially...

But then again press releases seem to do wonders for America haters...


57 posted on 10/05/2006 5:37:11 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"Just the idea of a wall, a fence ... is an insult to good neighbors."

"Good fences make good neighbors." -Robert Frost

Oh no! The U.N.! We may get a heavily worded statement!

58 posted on 10/05/2006 5:44:09 AM PDT by NapkinUser (http://www.votegraf.com/)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
while President-elect Felipe Calderon said the fences were not the solution to illegal immigration.

No crap. The only TRUE way to make the illegal immigration invasion to stop is for you, Senor Calderon, to get your basket case economy on track so that these people aren't leaving by the million to get a $4 an hour job.
59 posted on 10/05/2006 5:53:06 AM PDT by MikefromOhio ("...America has confronted evil before, and we have defeated it...")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Why should it cost $126.5 to build a 23 kilometer fence? You should be able to build a much longer fence for that amount of money. How many palms are being greased to build this project?


60 posted on 10/05/2006 6:00:47 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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