Skip to comments.Brain-Injury Patients Should be Used for Medical Experiments, Suggest Bioethicists
Posted on 10/05/2006 3:49:28 PM PDT by wagglebee
MELBOURNE, Australia, October 5, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) Patients designated as in a persistent vegetative state (PVS) should be used for medical experiments, according to several top bioethicists, regardless of whether or not prior consent was obtained.
Several articles published in the recent issue of the Journal of Medical debated the potential use of patients with non-responsive brain function for such medical experiments as animal organ transplantsto bypass ethic prohibitions against using a living human being for medical experimentation, some even suggested designating such patients as dead, saying their cognitive impairments justified treating them as cadavers.
Dr. John Shea, medical advisor to Campaign Life Coalition, told LifeSiteNews.com it would never be ethically or morally acceptable to use a living human being for medical research without their permission, regardless of their level of cognitive function.
A person who has PVS is not dead! If you claim to respect the sacredness of human life, you cant use a human person for medical experimentationthat would be grossly immoral.
In fact, little is understood about the capacity for awareness and understanding of people suffering from severe cognitive impairment, Dr. Shea said. Documented cases of patients who have unexpectedly woken up from a supposedly permanent PVS state have refuted the argument that their condition is irreversible. (See: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/jul/06070409.html)
Dr. Steven Curry of the University of Melbourne, who supports experiments using PVS patients, said it would be too difficult to convince the public that PVS patients were dead, according to commentary by the bioethics news watch BioEdge on Oct. 3.
Regardless, he said, their bodies should be used for medical research. Repeating a common fallacy of the bioethics debate on PVS, Curry stated that such patients will not recover. Those who are in a PVS will not ever wake up, they feel no pain or discomfort and have no continuing interest in their own survival
While making the argument that PVS patients have no right to mental autonomy since they have no apparent functioning mental capacity, Dr. Curry excused the medical use of their bodies by suggesting such patients should be allowed to choose to donate their bodies for the good of science, saying, these patients must also have a right to risk that life for the common good.
As a further basis for his argument, Dr. Curry stated that PVS patients inability to bear children and their lack of any capacity for movement justified the possible confinement caused by experimentation.
Also, he said, no risk of withdrawal of consent exists. While stating that obtaining prior agreement to experimentation would be preferable, he pointed out that such agreements would be unlikely, since few people would anticipate living in a comatose state for several years.
Dr. Curry would support permitting family members to give permission for a comatose relative to be used for medical experimentation, with reference to the persons values and stated preferences.
Read commentary from the Australasian bioethics newsletter:
See related LifeSiteNews coverage:
Man Wakes from Two-Year Coma was Aware and Remembers Everything
New study questions brain-death criterion for organ donation
Once again affirming my deep conviction that anyone who styles himself an "ethicist" should be put to death for the well-being of humanity.
It wasn't much of a step from starvation being a euphoric death to "Let's torture them, they can't complain".
They should use themselves as the experiments - how awful.
I am going to be sick.
Many people have no such respect. Many people look upon human life as a purely biological function, and not sacred at all.
Culture of Death Ping.
Perhaps, but Democrats are more plentiful.
"Patients designated as in a persistent vegetative state (PVS) should be used for medical experiments, according to several top bioethicists, regardless of whether or not prior consent was obtained".
Sounds like Nazi Germany.
Gee, every time I go to sleep, I have this cognitive impairment. I don't recognize what is going on around me and I hallucinate. I guess I'm just prime material for medical experimentation.
Talk about brain dead.
These people ARE Nazis.
Use all the Liberals you need!! Go ahead and start today!
& the culture of death marches on.
Let's start with some of these idiots . . . who are obviously already brain dead!
No, no one deserves this, not even the psychos who propose things like this.
Noticeably missing from this thread, are the responses from those FReepers who frequent the pro-life threads, to declare that brain damaged people aren't human, and aren't entitled to human rights. Could it be that they recognize how repugnant their views are, and would like to pretend this isn't really happening, until they gain more support?
You are so very right!
Perhaps Dr. Steven Curry could be the first research body.
And perhaps even more brain-dead.
Considering I suffered a head injury nearly a year ago, I find that chilling!
It was relatively minor, considering how bad head injuries can get, but still...
Margaret Sanger with the KKK - that sums it up!
If the Culture of Death gets away with this, one day it will be kidney stones that doom a person to being "no longer worthy of living."
You could just watch, "The Island", or the original "Clonus Horror" on which it was based. These "bioethicists" are ghouls of the highest order and any person alive who may end up in a hospital someday should be able to kill these Nazis and call it pre-emptive self defense!!!!
Under the guise of 'quality of life'.
"Sir, since you are already dying of cancer, we'd like to try a few experiments..."
This is horrible! How can anyone even contemplate this??
These guys are absolutely NOT "leading" anyone - except, possibly the whole discipline down the drain.
"Dr. Mengele has been reincarnated."
Dr. Mengele has been reincarnated as his idiot twin.
There are far more Muslims in OZ than PVS patients. Arguably, as Muslims don't seem to be using their brains, they could be considered "brain-inactive" and ear marked (notched) for future experiments.
They have quite a reputation here, those individuals in question...
So I've heard.
I know. I've committed double-plus-bad thoughtcrime before and been put on a few hours-worth of "time-out" for having the temerity to disagree.
Certain people support eugenics and suppression of free speech... wawawewa! (to quote Borat.)
Deeper and deeper they go....where they stop...we ALL know.
Anyone seen Howard Dean lately??.......
How do I always wind up hanging out with the bad kids?
So who gets to make that call? Is a three year old child also not have any "Functioning mental capacity"? What about my uncle in laws son, who has Downs?
Come Lord Jesus, come quickly. For demons of hell who masquerade as those who heal are rising in power.
They're ruining the reputation of this site!
Just lucky, I guess.
Biketoberfest is right around the corner! WooHoo!
Yup, I hear the term 'gene pool' mentioned a lot of late.
Kind of makes you wonder whose payroll is footing the bill.
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