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'Boy snatched off street, set alight and murdered for being white' ( ROP )
The Scotsman ^ | 6 Oct 2006 | JOHN ROBERTSON

Posted on 10/05/2006 10:10:08 PM PDT by george76

MURDERED schoolboy Kriss Donald pleaded: "I'm only 15. What did I do?" as he was beaten up and dragged into the back of a car by his abductors, a court heard yesterday.

The witness, Zahid Mohammed, 22, was originally accused of taking part in the murder. He pleaded guilty at the High Court in Glasgow in November 2004 to assault to injury on Kriss and attempting to pervert the course of justice. He was given a five-year jail term and was released on licence on Wednesday after applying for parole...

Imran Shahid, Mohammed Faisal Mushtaq, 27, and Zeeshan Shahid, 29, deny racially aggravated murder.

All three are on trial in Edinburgh, accused of abducting and killing Kriss by striking him with a knife or knives, then setting him on fire on 15 March, 2004.

The advocate-depute, Mark Stewart, QC, asked how successful Kriss was in resisting and Mohammed replied: "Very little."

Mohammed said he had never met him before the incident. He agreed that nothing would have happened if Kriss and his friend had been Chinese, African-American or Asian. He said they were targeted because they were white.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.scotsman.com ...


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1 posted on 10/05/2006 10:10:08 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76
We're in for the time of our lives. It's gonna be long and it's gonna be bloody. Be prepared!

BLOAT.

2 posted on 10/05/2006 10:12:41 PM PDT by blam
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To: george76

So...close...to..."Nuke...Mecca"...must...restrain...self...


3 posted on 10/05/2006 10:12:52 PM PDT by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: george76
He pleaded guilty at the High Court in Glasgow in November 2004 to assault to injury on Kriss and attempting to pervert the course of justice. He was given a five-year jail term and was released on licence on Wednesday after applying for parole...

Wow! A whole 2 years. I said it before, it is no wonder that England is going down the drains. They utilize the time tested catch-and-release strategy.

4 posted on 10/05/2006 10:13:26 PM PDT by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: ozoneliar

Well, it is only murder...

/s


5 posted on 10/05/2006 10:15:13 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: blam

Old Europe is surrendering without even a decent fight.


6 posted on 10/05/2006 10:15:59 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Squeako

7 posted on 10/05/2006 10:16:53 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Well, you know it's in the Koran. It says it right there, "You will take the infidel boy and set him afire, praise be to Allah."


8 posted on 10/05/2006 10:17:18 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: george76

African American in Scotland?


9 posted on 10/05/2006 10:18:13 PM PDT by xp38
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To: KellyAdmirer

Multiple Choice Test

1. In 1968, Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated in Los Angeles by
(a) Superman,
(b) Jay Leno,
(c) Tiger Woods,
(d) a man from Palestine between 17 and 40 years old.

2. In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were kidnapped and killed at the Munich Olympics by
(a) the kid who cuts your grass,
(b) Sitting Bull,
(c) Arnold Schwarzenegger,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

3. In 1979, the US Embassy in Tehran was over-ran & 52 Americans were held for 444 days by
(a) Bruce Lee,
(b) Elvis Presley's deceased twin brother,
(c) a tour group of Minnesota grandmothers,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

4. During the 1980s, several Americans were kidnapped in Beirut by
(a) O J Simpson,
(b) the king of Sweden,
(c) the pope and a gang of Cardinals,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

5. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon was blown up, killing 220 Marines, by
(a) a Domino's Pizza delivery man,
(b) the president of the Southern Baptist Convention,
(c) Catherine Zeta-Jones,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

6. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70-year-old American passenger thrown overboard in his wheelchair by
(a) Sugar Ray Leonard,
(b) your next door neighbor,
(c) the Little Mermaid,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

7. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens and a U.S. Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by
(a) Captain Kangaroo,
(b)Walt Disney,
(c) Mother Teresa,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

8. In 1988, Pan American Flight 103 was destroyed by a bomb in midair by
(a) Butch Cassidy,
(b) the Sundance Kid,
(c) the Tooth Fairy,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

9. The World Trade Center was bombed the first time in 1993 by
(a) Stonewall Jackson,
(b) Michael Jordan,
(c) Winston Churchill,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

10. In 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by
(a) Santa Claus,
(b) your sister's cat's grandmother's first owner's son's basketball coach's ex-wife,
(c) the World Wrestling Federation,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

11. On September 11, 2001, airliners were hijacked to crash into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon by
(a) Bugs Bunny,
(b) Bob the Tomato,
(c) Ricky Martin,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

12. In 2002, Daniel Pearl of the Wall Street Journal was kidnapped and beheaded by
(a) Bonnie and Clyde,
(b) the Michelin man,
(c) Barney Fife,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

13. In July of 2005, several targets were attacked in central London, killing 52 persons, by
(a) the Orkin Man,
(b) Margaret Thatcher,
(c) Mr. Goodwrench,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.


10 posted on 10/05/2006 10:18:14 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
This would be bad and racist whether or not these thugs were Muslim. Was the guy at the bar of European extraction?

It is extremely absurd to blame an entire people group (race for evolutionists) because one person who is perceived as being a member of that group did something offensive. This boy apparently had little if anything to do with the bar incident. (The naming people part is confusing, though).

11 posted on 10/05/2006 10:18:20 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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To: george76

There should be more keywords for this article than simply those pointing to Islam. How about RACISM?


12 posted on 10/05/2006 10:19:30 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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To: george76

I have a fifteen year old. If a muzzie did this to my kid, all hell would break loose. F'n basturds.


13 posted on 10/05/2006 10:20:17 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Time to eradicated islambs and mooselimbs! GO PTSC)
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To: george76

I'm just waiting to hear from the eternal apologists. "Oh, it wasn't a hate crime at all! They were just having a bad day, they are just normal fellas who did something bad. It has nothing at all to do with their being Muslims, anybody who really understands the Koran would know that."


14 posted on 10/05/2006 10:22:03 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: xp38
That is suspicious, but the Scotsman's a reputable source (could be liberal, but what it does report is usually accurate).
15 posted on 10/05/2006 10:22:08 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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To: george76; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; The Spirit Of Allegiance; ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/5406912.stm

http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/siteinfo/newsround/pcplod1.html

"The torture and race-murder of 15 year old Glasgow teenager Kriss Donald on 16 March 2004, was one of the most horrific crimes ever to have occured in mainland Britain, in living memory. However, unless you live in Glasgow you have probably never even heard of Kriss Donald.

The national UK media have kept it quiet because it doesn't "fit" into their framework where the only race attacks we are ever meant to hear about and know about are white-on-black.

At the same time, Strathclyde Police have come under the spotlight for their failure to police the Asian gangs in Pollokshields properly because of an unprofessional fear of being called "racist".

Here a former Chief Inspector of Strathclyde Police helps to explain what has gone wrong.

"WHY POLICE ARE AFRAID TO TACKLE ASIAN CRIME
Political correctness protects young ethnic offenders
by Mike Liddell
Former Strathclyde Police chief inspector
Scottish Daily Mail
Friday, November 19, 2004, p. 14

IT was a crime of breathtaking callousness and depravity that shocked all Scotland. The murder of Kriss Donald was an act of brutality more readily associated with the likes of Bogota or Baghdad.

Yet this awful crime was played out in the leafy suburb of Pollokshields in Glasgow - and has left its residents searching for some kind of explanation.

As a former senior police officer in Strathclyde with 30 years' experience, I believe the answer is clear - though, for many, it will prove unpalatable.

In my view, crime within Glasgow's Asian community has been allowed to grow unfettered for years. Why? Because the police have been afraid to fight it in case they are accused of racism.

It was this basic failure to act that created the conditions which, at least in part, allowed the murder of Kriss Donald to happen.

This inactivity and its deadly consequences stemmed not from the attitude of officers on the street, but from the craven approach of their bosses to race-relations. For years now, a 'softly, softly' attitude towards crime in the ethnic community has prevailed - a disastrous policy born of the excessive interference of politicians.

The simple truth for senior officers is that they are not going to win that longed-for promotion or the coveted knighthood if they upset the local politicians who control the police boards.

So the attitude among Scotland's police hierarchy is: 'Be careful not to upset the ethnic community - they may start complaining.'

What was striking about the Kriss Donald murder was the confidence his attackers, Daanish Zahid and Zahid Mohammed, displayed as they trawled the streets looking for their victim.

We heard at the trial of a group of youths involved in the search, brawls in the street and a Mercedes being driven around the city with the victim aboard.

How is this possible?

Educated
Clearly, the Asian community is no less law-abiding than any other part of society. But on the South Side of Glasgow there is a significant group of young Asian men, mostly between 15 and 30, who are simply out of control. They believe they are beyond the law.

They are for the most part well-educated and well-off: driving around in a luxury foreign car is very much their style, but they receive no parental discipline and recognise no authority.

They are heavily involved in drug-dealing and crimes such as reset and fraud; some groups are well-organised, members travel extensively and have connections abroad.

Internal disputes and violence are common - and a cricket bat is often the weapon of choice.

They are very aware the police are reluctant to challenge them in anything less than the most extreme circumstances for fear of being branded as racist.

Make no mistake: they use the race card without mercy and in today's climate even an unsubstantiated complaint can damage an officer's career.

I was a chief inspector in Govan and my area of responsibility bordered Pollokshields.

Disturbed by rumours of young men being seriously assaulted and failing to report the crime, I set up a small plain clothes team to find out what was happening. It soon became apparent something was going on in the Asian community that the police knew nothing about.

It seemed the focus of activity was in Pollokshields and the intelligence-gathering group expanded to include officers from that area.

The extent of the involvement of some Asian youths in serious criminal activity was revealed. But in spite of the evidence, no serious effort was made to take action against them because senior officers decided to do nothing about it.

Police in Strathclyde are no strangers to being let down by their commanders when it comes to tough decisions involving the Asian community.

In 2001, South Side residents were dismayed to learn of the closure of a local swimming pool. A peaceful demonstration was hijacked by local youths many of them Asian.

Attacked
Police officers were refused permission to defend themselves when they were attacked

by this group. They were ordered to stand in line while the youths were given free licence to bombard them with stones, rotten fruit and plastic bags full of urine.

A number of officers were injured, at least one seriously. Few arrests were made.

I spoke to a number of officers afterwards and most believed their commanders had failed in their duty to protect them because they feared a political backlash that would damage their careers.

This attitude has been fuelled partly, by Scotland's burgeoning race relations industry and by a climate of intense political correctness. Barely a week goes by now without a new report on some aspect of race relations.

Many of our institutions, primarily the police, have been regularly criticised. But the response from police chiefs has been to try to avoid criticism by turning a blind eye to ethnic crime. This growing unwillingness to tackle such crime has meant that the public are increasingly getting a raw deal.

Scottish Executive research has discovered police officers are failing to use their powers to prevent and detect crime committed by members of the black and ethnic community.

I know from my own experience that a very high percentage of detentions or arrests of black and ethnic youths results in complaints of racial bias.

While I was a chief inspector in Glasgow's South Side, I monitored crimes and arrests every day. I knew when I saw a black or ethnic name that a complaint against the police would almost inevitably follow.

In my area, the detection rate for all crime was 45 per cent. For crimes reported as racially motivated, it was at least 90 per cent. The difference reflects the fact that a lot more effort goes into dealing with crimes reported as racially motivated.

They are monitored more scrupulously and local commanders are under more pressure to get results for that type of crime.

Exploited
This would not be a concern but for the fact that the definition of a racially motivated crime is so wide that almost every crime against the ethnic community can fall within it. Quite naturally, this situation is exploited by those who would benefit from it.

The police service in Scotland is not institutionally racist - it is institutionally institutional.

While it nominally serves the community, the real masters, as always, are the people in power and those who influence them.

The Asian community, like the rest of the country, is utterly appalled and outraged by Kriss Donald's murder.

But I believe his violent death was a result of the political correctness that has gripped the police service in Scotland for years.

Perhaps it is time, at last, for senior officers to forget about their gongs and promotions and finally protect the public - the job they were sworn to do."


16 posted on 10/05/2006 10:23:22 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: xp38


17 posted on 10/05/2006 10:24:28 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
The witness, Zahid Mohammed, 22, was originally accused of taking part in the murder. He pleaded guilty at the High Court in Glasgow in November 2004 to assault to injury on Kriss and attempting to pervert the course of justice. He was given a five-year jail term and was released on licence on Wednesday after applying for parole...

My eyes are telling me this ocurred, but my mind simply can't conceive of such a thing. Are the Scots insane?

That bastard will kill again. It's obvious. That court just sentenced some unknown innocents to death. How many?

18 posted on 10/05/2006 10:24:42 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: george76; blam
BOOM!
Click the Pic

19 posted on 10/05/2006 10:27:54 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: bitt
Thanks for the Ping.

Please see post #19

20 posted on 10/05/2006 10:30:19 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

21 posted on 10/05/2006 10:30:55 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: KellyAdmirer

22 posted on 10/05/2006 10:31:56 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
There should be more keywords for this article than simply those pointing to Islam.

I agree! We are not Islam. We are racists! Where are the Christians and the Jews!?

23 posted on 10/05/2006 10:33:06 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Fiddlstix

wow, good one!

paul williams? see the comments after, "what Bush listens to"...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4435639.stm


24 posted on 10/05/2006 10:34:32 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: george76
Be sure to Click the picture. You'll like it.

KILL The Infidel! It's In The Koran!
Click the Pic

25 posted on 10/05/2006 10:34:53 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: george76

Even closer, now.


26 posted on 10/05/2006 10:35:09 PM PDT by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: bitt
paul williams?...

Randy Newman J

27 posted on 10/05/2006 10:36:16 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: xp38
He agreed that nothing would have happened if Kriss and his friend had been Chinese, African-American or Asian.

Notice also, 'Chinese' or 'Asian'. This reporter doesn't seem to know his @$$ from his elbow.

28 posted on 10/05/2006 10:37:00 PM PDT by opinionator
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To: Fiddlstix

Thanks.

Slave, muslim, or dead !


29 posted on 10/05/2006 10:38:57 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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yes, and I wonder if kriss' father murdered the murderer if HE would only get 2 years??

MESSAGE TO KRISS' FATHER: If you want to kill that bastard feel free to come to the U.S. and hide out at my place!!


30 posted on 10/05/2006 10:39:30 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: george76
Mr Stewart ended by asking Mohammed: "Is the evidence you have given here today, sworn on the holy Koran, the truth?" Mohammed replied: "Yes."

Scotland's toast.

31 posted on 10/05/2006 10:39:32 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: george76
You're welcome J
32 posted on 10/05/2006 10:40:10 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: george76

How long before we have to bail them out...again.


33 posted on 10/05/2006 10:40:43 PM PDT by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Squeako

34 posted on 10/05/2006 10:41:11 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: annelizly

2 years.

amazing .


35 posted on 10/05/2006 10:43:07 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
But the vast majority of Muslims are "moderate". They're just peace-loving, neighborly type folks like anyone else.

If your wife or daughter is raped by a Muslim man, it's just 'cause they are deserving sluts. If you're murdered by a holy Muslim warrior, it's just because you chose not to convert to Islam; you're nothing more than a pig or dog anyway, and you brought it all upon yourself.

Geez... (oops.. "Praise be to Allah"), I just don't know why you people don't get it.

ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE

Just submit to the loving will of Allah ...

..... OR ELSE!!

SFS

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Remember your lesson on Islam, Boys and Girls: Mohammad was a pedophile who liked young boys. Another word for Allah is "Satan"; Mohammad was Satan's prophet, and Muslims are Satan's foot soldiers.

36 posted on 10/05/2006 10:44:22 PM PDT by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: george76

Well, at least it wasn't a 'gun crime.'


37 posted on 10/05/2006 10:45:35 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Fiddlstix

I like the way you think.


38 posted on 10/05/2006 10:45:58 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: george76

Unless non-muslim countries get their act together and get muslims under control, they may as well just kiss their lives goodbye.


39 posted on 10/05/2006 10:47:45 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: george76
If you could excuse my language for just a moment....

Uh

Just what the F is happening to the West?

Russia makes its cyclical obligatory threat of some sort: The liberals scream "We must talk to them, we must understand why they dislike us, we must lower our standards to theirs"

China thumbs its nose at the West when it comes to enviromental concerns or workers rights and the liberals?

Well, so many of our wonderful Congress Critters make a load of cash off the Chinese, we hear them scream "We must not be isolationists, we must understand why they destroy the earth and use slave labor, we must lower our standards to theirs"

Is it any wonder that liberals would look at this horrendous torture and murder as just an isolated event that had nothing to do with religion, politics and Islam?

What is even more unbelievable to me is that the leaders of most of the Western countries are not stupid men, yet they continue failing (liberal) policies in the face of the slow but steady spread of that cowardly and self absorbed movement called radical islam.

Earth to Liberals: You CANNOT talk or negotiate with these sub-human, cowardly, child killing, murderous pieces of human debris. You can only kill them. Yup, you heard right: KILL THEM!

Liberalism is endangering the lives of every non Muslim in the world. Liberalism will cause the fall of the Western world rather than admit any possible mistake in their approach.

And they say President Bush is stubborn!

Liberalism is political and physical suicide to the West.

Liberalism will get you killed.

40 posted on 10/05/2006 10:48:54 PM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
"This would be bad and racist whether or not these thugs were Muslim."

True. However, the point being is that we aren't surprised at Islamic savagery. It's par for the course.

41 posted on 10/05/2006 10:49:38 PM PDT by endthematrix (“Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence.”)
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To: Squeako

Why restrain? Nuke Mecca now.


42 posted on 10/05/2006 10:51:21 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier fighting in the WOT)
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To: technomage

" Liberalism is political and physical suicide to the West.

Liberalism will get you killed."




Very true.


44 posted on 10/05/2006 10:55:04 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

They should let them go. It's racism to keep them locked up for something that wasn't thier fault. /s


45 posted on 10/05/2006 10:55:56 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
Remember your lesson on Islam, Boys and Girls: Mohammad was a pedophile.......

Be sure and Click the picture. You'll like.

Click Here! Trust Me! It's Good.
Click the Pic

46 posted on 10/05/2006 10:56:05 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Dallas59

Well, you know, it's society's fault. Why, it was society that put that little boy on that street, and what was a good Muslim supposed to do? Just let him walk on by?


47 posted on 10/05/2006 10:57:01 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: processing please hold
Thank you for the kind compliment J
48 posted on 10/05/2006 10:57:49 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: bitt

they are taking asininity to new heights


49 posted on 10/05/2006 10:58:12 PM PDT by wafflehouse
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To: opinionator

Oh this is Britain, so they define "Asians" to be those from the Indian Subcontinent. A different definition from the one used in the States.


50 posted on 10/05/2006 10:58:13 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (The US Founding is what makes Britain and USA separated by much more than a common language.)
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