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Court says UPS discriminated against deaf drivers
AP ^ | 10/10/6 | DAVID KRAVETS

Posted on 10/10/2006 12:59:50 PM PDT by SmithL

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To: freespirited

Well, based on the last several shipments of mine that they have messed up, I would think that perhaps UPS has several visually handicapped personnel in the sorting area.


81 posted on 10/10/2006 3:09:47 PM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: SmithL; All

my mother was hard of hearing. but I still don't think it would have been wise for her to drive a UPS truck. this is the end of the matter for me. HELLO!


82 posted on 10/10/2006 3:12:06 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (* nuke * the * jihad *)
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To: freespirited
Next thing we know, these famous brothers will be suing the Air Force to become pilots!

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83 posted on 10/10/2006 3:13:24 PM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: GaltMeister; TommyDale; Cobra64; Kaylee Frye
"Not at our bank's drive-up cash machine. It has braille on the buttons.

ATM machines are manufactured 'one size fits all' - that machine might end up in a lobby, hospital, convinience store, or built into the wall for drive-up use."

They are useful if you have a blind passenger.

84 posted on 10/10/2006 3:20:22 PM PDT by 1forall (America - my home, my land, my country.)
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To: SmithL
This is legal tyranny by the evil 9th Circus, the worst court in the USA.

Can you imagine the vast money the very same crooked trial lawyers will make suing UPS (a WONDERFUL company) for accidents caused by deaf drivers who cannot hear vehicle horns or childrens' screams?

Hey, blind drivers are also discriminated against!


85 posted on 10/10/2006 3:27:29 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: VRWCTexan

"Last time I checked Jim Rob that founded this board was doing a pretty good job from his wheel-chair.?"


AND we have a winner! You just won the Non-sequetor award of the day.

Please note that Jim Rob didn't ask the government for anything, other than to keep its cotton pickin hands off the Internet.

The lawyers and 'activists' in the ADA crowd would have sued everyone and every company if they could. With teh ADA, they can. And given time, they will sue (or intimidate) all of us.

It is time for us to recognize the wisdom of the men who wrote the Constitution. They knew G*d didn't create all men equal. As proof of that, I give you any Olympic sprint Gold Medal winner versus Jim Rob, Helen Thomas versus any bright model, etc.

Even less did the Founders imagine man would become so arrogant as to assume that a mere law could outlaw extinction or control climate. Washington, DC needs to have its meds adjusted, STAT.

It's not about abilities, for we all have more ability than we will actualize. What it IS about is using our abilities. Again, Jim Rob is my case in point.


86 posted on 10/10/2006 3:27:46 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: Lekker 1
Huh???
Say What???
87 posted on 10/10/2006 3:28:52 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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88 posted on 10/10/2006 3:31:50 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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To: 1forall

Shouldn't the braille portion be on the passenger side?


89 posted on 10/10/2006 3:32:12 PM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: TommyDale

Your passenger will sit behind the drivers' seat.


90 posted on 10/10/2006 5:34:18 PM PDT by 1forall (America - my home, my land, my country.)
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To: SmithL

Just wait - some deaf guy will back over someone or something and then the same idiotic lawyer will sue them again for negligence.


91 posted on 10/10/2006 10:27:07 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God is giving you countless observable clues of His existence!)
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To: GaltMeister
What Are The Other Requirements For A CDL?

Who cares? These folks just wan't to drive the little brown vans. They don't need a CDL for that.

92 posted on 10/11/2006 1:07:01 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: TommyDale

There's no way they discriminate against the blind. Have you ever watched the way those brown trucks are driven?


93 posted on 10/11/2006 1:17:11 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: SmithL

The 9th Circus is nothing more than a filthy rest stop on the highway to the Supreme Court - - you pull in, do your business, wash up real good, try not to make eye contact with anybody, and get out of there as fast as you can.


94 posted on 10/11/2006 1:39:46 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: wallcrawlr; dmw; merry10; All
For everyone to know, I am deaf myself and there's basically no evidence that deaf drivers are any less capable than hearing drivers.

If I am wrong, I will like to see documentation that deaf drivers are indeed a threat.

95 posted on 10/11/2006 1:47:00 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: -YYZ-; All
You are correct in that case. The last time I checked, everyone have to use their eyes to drive, whether hearing or deaf.

Regarding the deaf individual's ability to communicate, it is really case by case basis. There are many Deaf people who are currently using hearing aids and cochlear implants to communicate with their customers.

Rush Limbaugh comes up in my mind, no matter how much he is able to use cochlear implant, he is Deaf without using it.

So if FReepers are making fun of Deaf people on this forum, or accusing them of not having an ability to do a mundane thing such as driving, that is quite childish to do so.

Odd enough, at the same time I do doubt that the same FReepers would forbid Rush Limbaugh from driving to his job at the radio station.

96 posted on 10/11/2006 1:54:23 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: Andonius_99
Deafness is not an impediment to good driving. You have to compensate by looking ahead and behind you and judging the flow of traffic. When backing out of a parking space, I honk my horn since I can't hear the traffic behind me and I warn other drivers I'm about to leave. You can't judge someone solely by their disability. UPS has to evaluate deaf drivers on the same basis they would evaluate hearing drivers in deciding on fitness for the job. As a deaf person, I don't ask for special treatment; just to be treated like every one else.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

97 posted on 10/11/2006 2:06:31 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: AngrySpud
You'd think so, but it's not true. I grew up with deaf parents, uncles, cousins, and assorted family friends. On average, they're safer drivers. I suppose their other senses are more acute

There's a popular myth that the loss of one sense makes the others more acute, but research doesn't support it. There's a good reason for that perception, though -- someone with four senses instead of five has less divided attention. A deaf driver isn't distracted by a blaring stereo (his or anyone else's), a ringing cell phone or a yakking passenger.

Deaf people don't see better, but they watch better -- just like blind people don't hear better, but they listen better.

98 posted on 10/11/2006 2:17:56 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: goldstategop
"As a deaf person, I don't ask for special treatment; just to be treated like every one else."

Thanks for saying that. I too am deaf and that's all I ask for too. What you said in your post is very intelligent, unlike some of the ignorant comments made by fellow FReepers. It always amazes me how ignorant some people can be. Thanks for sharing and educating the "ignorant ones" among us.

99 posted on 10/11/2006 4:05:20 AM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: SmithL

If the state is willing to issue the driver a license, how can UPS have a cow?


100 posted on 10/11/2006 4:09:08 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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