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Humans 'could evolve into two species'
The Australian ^ | October 17, 2006 | Mark Henderson

Posted on 10/19/2006 7:10:22 AM PDT by presidio9

HUMANS could evolve into two sub-species within 100,000 years as social divisions produce a genetic underclass.

The mating preferences of the rich, highly educated and well-nourished could ultimately drive their separation into a genetically distinct group that no longer interbreeds with less fortunate human beings, according to British scientist Oliver Curry.

Dr Curry, a research associate in the Centre for Philosophy of Natural and Social Science of the London School of Economics, speculated that privileged humans might over tens of thousands of years evolve into a "gracile" subspecies, tall, thin, symmetrical, intelligent and creative.

The rest would be shorter and stockier, with asymmetric features and lower intelligence, he said.

Dr Curry's vision echoes that of H.G. Wells in The Time Machine. He envisaged a race of frail, privileged beings, the Eloi, living in a ruined city and co-existing uneasily with ape-like Morlocks who toil underground and are descended from the downtrodden workers of today.

Dr Curry also said that the current concept of race would be gone by the year 3000, as relationships between people with different skin colours produce a "coffee-colour" across all populations.

With improvements in nutrition and medicine, people would routinely grow to 6ft 6in and live to the age of 120, he said. Genetic modification, cosmetic surgery and sexual selection - whereby mate preferences drive evolution - meant that people would tend to be better-looking than today.

Otherwise, humans will look much as they do now, with one exception: Dr Curry also suggested that increased reliance on processed food would make chewing less important, possibly resulting in less developed jaws and shorter chins.

Ten thousand years from now, this effect could be compounded as human faces grow more juvenile in appearance. This effect - neotony - is known from domestic animals: dogs resemble young versions of

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1 posted on 10/19/2006 7:10:23 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

I believe it. I've seen the crowd shots of Raider games.


2 posted on 10/19/2006 7:12:08 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: presidio9

Credential check!


3 posted on 10/19/2006 7:12:17 AM PDT by claudiustg (Iran delenda est.)
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To: presidio9

I think it already did: Conservatives and Socialist/Marxists


4 posted on 10/19/2006 7:12:32 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: presidio9

The Eloi and the Morlocks (Democraps)?


5 posted on 10/19/2006 7:13:39 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: All

There are already two species of humans.....one is intelligent, walks upright, is attractive and well spoken....the other is what we call, "Liberal".


6 posted on 10/19/2006 7:13:44 AM PDT by texan75010 (Future NFL Dad - http://mysite.verizon.net/luker33/)
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To: presidio9
Two species: Human and muslum?????
7 posted on 10/19/2006 7:14:03 AM PDT by sticker
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To: presidio9

We already have. They're called "conservatives" and "liberals."


8 posted on 10/19/2006 7:14:16 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: presidio9

I for one am going the Morlock route mostly for the full body shaggy fur which would most obviously and totally rock.


9 posted on 10/19/2006 7:16:49 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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10 posted on 10/19/2006 7:19:09 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

I was wondering when that pic was going to get posted!


11 posted on 10/19/2006 7:20:31 AM PDT by RebelBanker (It is, however somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.)
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To: presidio9

Got designer babies and boutique gene therapy?


12 posted on 10/19/2006 7:21:14 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: presidio9

This is the madness that logically follows by believing in the misguided theory of evolution.


13 posted on 10/19/2006 7:21:21 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: presidio9

They already have. Humans and Muslims............


14 posted on 10/19/2006 7:21:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE DE-FOLEY-ATED...............................)
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To: All

Hasn't this guy seen the Geico commercials?


15 posted on 10/19/2006 7:22:13 AM PDT by texan75010 (Future NFL Dad - http://mysite.verizon.net/luker33/)
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To: presidio9

NASCAR and other .... LOL!


16 posted on 10/19/2006 7:22:18 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: presidio9
Granted I think my receding hair line started its march over my scalp when I was about three.

So my increasingly shiny head might be influencing my choice.

17 posted on 10/19/2006 7:22:19 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: RebelBanker

I love that pic, it makes my own rug back look pre pubescent! LOL!


18 posted on 10/19/2006 7:23:41 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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19 posted on 10/19/2006 7:25:33 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9
Speculation fromn Dr. Curry?....Hasn't this already been done in HG Well's "Time Machine" long, long, ago?
20 posted on 10/19/2006 7:29:18 AM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: presidio9
Besides the fact that this is impossible and a complete fantasy, it's a fantasy that's already been done.

The Morlocks and the Eloi, anyone?

21 posted on 10/19/2006 7:30:16 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: presidio9
He envisaged a race of frail, privileged beings, the Eloi, living in a ruined city and co-existing uneasily with ape-like Morlocks who toil underground and are descended from the downtrodden workers of today.

Privileged? They lived to be eaten. The Morlocks were ugly, but they were running the show.

22 posted on 10/19/2006 7:33:20 AM PDT by ahayes (On the internet no one can hear you scream.)
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To: right-wingin_It
Speculation fromn Dr. Curry?....Hasn't this already been done in HG Well's "Time Machine" long, long, ago?

You get an A for memory and erudition but an F for reading comprehension.

23 posted on 10/19/2006 7:38:58 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

"Humans 'could evolve into two species' "

We already have. There are humans then there is a subspecies of humans called Marxists.


24 posted on 10/19/2006 7:39:00 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Murtha is even cutting and running from a debate.)
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To: jiggyboy

"Humans 'could evolve into two species' "

We already have. There are humans then there is a subspecies of humans called Marxists.


25 posted on 10/19/2006 7:39:00 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Murtha is even cutting and running from a debate.)
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To: presidio9
Pulp fiction silly pseudo-science:


26 posted on 10/19/2006 7:42:02 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: presidio9
Humans 'could evolve into two species'

Islamics, and human beings.

27 posted on 10/19/2006 7:42:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a pathological disorder masquerading as a religion.)
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To: presidio9
Otherwise, humans will look much as they do now, with one exception: Dr Curry also suggested that increased reliance on processed food would make chewing less important, possibly resulting in less developed jaws and shorter chins.

I am doing my share.


28 posted on 10/19/2006 7:45:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a pathological disorder masquerading as a religion.)
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To: claudiustg
He read HG Wells, how had the idea over a hundred years ago after reading Nietzsche. It was a silly notion then. Today it is beyond silly, it is agitprop and conscious drivel.
29 posted on 10/19/2006 7:45:51 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: jiggyboy

huh?


30 posted on 10/19/2006 7:47:15 AM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: jiggyboy

oh..#5


31 posted on 10/19/2006 7:48:29 AM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: presidio9
Many try to claim Wells was a Social-Darwinist, sounding the drums of fear amonst the rich royals and upper-class British in the last years of Empire that the underclass was not to be trusted, and that without constant force and moitoring, the violent, stupid, dangerous Morlocks of society (the "working class") would rise up and eat the natural rulers (both figuratively and literally!)

Nothing could be further from the truth. Wells was rather warning that the stratified English "class system" was forcing the wealthy and the workers farther and farther apart, and that oneday this very mechanism might produce two different species where each could not survive on their own.

Or so I said in my college term paper, written in the dead of night to meet the deadline. Hey, I got an "A" and course credit to read SF! That's a good deal to me!

32 posted on 10/19/2006 7:51:10 AM PDT by 50sDad (The GOP dumped Foley, the Dems kept Clinton. See the difference?)
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To: Lazamataz

Look at the bag! BEEF JERKEY IS PEOPLE!


33 posted on 10/19/2006 7:51:56 AM PDT by 50sDad (The GOP dumped Foley, the Dems kept Clinton. See the difference?)
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To: presidio9

God might have something to say about this.


34 posted on 10/19/2006 7:53:05 AM PDT by exnavy (God bless America)
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To: FormerACLUmember

In my version of the story...All the soft lilly Limosine Liberals on the surface have evolved into carnivorous freaks of nature, screwing and killing everything in sight.


35 posted on 10/19/2006 7:53:29 AM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: presidio9
"With improvements in nutrition and medicine, people would routinely grow to 6ft 6in..."
36 posted on 10/19/2006 7:53:51 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: 50sDad
Look at the bag! BEEF JERKEY IS PEOPLE!

I don't have a problem with that; after all, someone told me to 'Eat me' earlier today.

37 posted on 10/19/2006 7:55:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a pathological disorder masquerading as a religion.)
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To: theDentist

If things continue the way they are , it may be
1. Those that live in Australia


2. Those that don't


38 posted on 10/19/2006 7:57:55 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits targets no one else can hit, but genius hits targets no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: right-wingin_It
In my version of the story...All the soft lilly Limosine Liberals on the surface have evolved into carnivorous freaks of nature, screwing and killing everything in sight.

:"THEY ARE ALREADY HERE!"

39 posted on 10/19/2006 7:58:05 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: Lazamataz
I don't have a problem with that; after all, someone told me to 'Eat me' earlier today.

It would explain why jerkey is so tough...look at the people they put in it! Those athletes are all too wirey and tough!

40 posted on 10/19/2006 8:00:07 AM PDT by 50sDad (The GOP dumped Foley, the Dems kept Clinton. See the difference?)
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To: presidio9
If I show my wife that pic, she'll never again complain about my few and far between back hairs. Okay to be completely honest, appparently there's some clusters back there too, but I've never seen them. :)
41 posted on 10/19/2006 8:02:30 AM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Fionally!!

Someone who can engulf my manhood!

42 posted on 10/19/2006 8:04:07 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: RockinRight
We already have. They're called "conservatives" and "liberals."

Here is a breeding experiment to bring the two halves back into one species.


43 posted on 10/19/2006 8:04:31 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (I fear that we are the RINOs. The real Republican party is the big government Dem-lite party.)
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To: wideawake; FormerACLUmember

44 posted on 10/19/2006 8:05:34 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: Young Werther

Oh, Brother! I'm not touching THAT one with a two-inch pole, LOL! ;)


45 posted on 10/19/2006 8:05:40 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: presidio9
...speculated that privileged humans might over tens of thousands of years evolve into a "gracile" subspecies, tall, thin, symmetrical, intelligent and creative.

The rest would be shorter and stockier, with asymmetric features and lower intelligence, he said.


46 posted on 10/19/2006 8:07:06 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: presidio9

Joking aside, this is just Socialist tripe.


47 posted on 10/19/2006 8:08:26 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: 50sDad

BEEF JERKEY IS PEOPLE!

48 posted on 10/19/2006 8:08:46 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: supremedoctrine

Those that live in Australia

49 posted on 10/19/2006 8:10:29 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6707

If people in Adams(pbuh) time were 60+ ft tall, how come we never find any remains close to that tall.

The oldest human remains found are 20000 years old, they are relitively the same size. When find dinosaur bone which are far far older than humans

Answer 6707 2002-09-17

Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said that 'Aadam (Alayhis salaam) was 30 Ziraa tall.'

Ziraa is a measurement and one Ziraa is approximately half metre. The Hadith is authentic and that is siffucient for us. Scientific and archeological evidences are subordinate to Hadith.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai


50 posted on 10/19/2006 8:11:12 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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