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One of the marks of our enlightenment is that women are full members of society and not slaves to men.
1 posted on 10/26/2006 7:54:19 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus
"In another example of Western societal immolation, the University of Toronto is allowing a professor to teach his class that westerners who stand against the use of the veil by Muslim women living in western societies are but intolerant, bigots standing against Islam."

Could be right - naw. Count me a biggot as I stand against Islam.

2 posted on 10/26/2006 7:59:07 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Religion of peace my arse - We need a maintenance Crusade - piss on Islam)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Isn't it interesting how Muslims have picked up a piece from the Democrat Handbook... put up a victim or play the victim when confronted on an issue????

If Muslims don't want to assimilate to Western society then I suggest that they return to their own country.

5 posted on 10/26/2006 8:05:11 AM PDT by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

I wear a crucifix. Does this mean I can go to Saudi Arabia and expect them to be tolerant.

Masks are considered rude false faces in the west.

A mark allows someone to masquerade as something else.


6 posted on 10/26/2006 8:05:51 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Three posts later on the main page is this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1726288/posts

Aussie Mufti To Women: Stop Making us Rape You (Senior Most Islamic Cleric In Australia
Hotair ^ | 10/25/06 | Allahpundit


Posted on 10/26/2006 7:57:05 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist


That veil's there for a reason, darlin':

While not specifically referring to the rapes, brutal attacks on four women for which a group of young Lebanese men received long jail sentences, Sheik Hilali said there were women who "sway suggestively" and wore make-up and immodest dress... "and then you get a judge without mercy (rahma) and gives you 65 years"...

In the religious address on adultery to about 500 worshippers in Sydney last month, Sheik Hilali said: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it...whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?

"The uncovered meat is the problem."

The sheik then said: "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occured."


(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


7 posted on 10/26/2006 8:07:15 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("We will slaughter anyone who calls Islam violent!")
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Intolerance is not always a bad thing. In fact, intolerance is required to sustain a functioning society.


10 posted on 10/26/2006 8:09:01 AM PDT by BadAndy (You want a magic bullet to fix your problem, but I only have hollowpoints.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

In our culture, we trust each other because we can expect those around us to be basically honest people. We are open in our communication, almost to a fault. Part of communication is nonverbal - and seeing the face and expressions of the people we interact with is an important aspect of it. We expect others to be open and honest.

In Western culture, we look to a person's face to determine who they are and how truthful and trustworthy they are. Masks are for bandits and children at Halloween. But in Mideastern culture, hiding and lying are habits, if not virtues.

This is just one more example of the basic incompatibility of the two cultures. Theirs is so different as to create distrust and hostility. If they want to maintain these sick cultural traits, let them stay in the Mideast. Don't even TRY to bring it here!

Perhaps it does have something to do with our religion. Jesus said to love one another, and from that basic love comes honesty and trust. Mohammed said to hurt and kill each other, and from that comes fear and distrust. But we do not need to 'oppress' their religion to ban the wearing of the mask.

Hiding behind a mask in public is against the law, is it not? Why can't this practice be banned on those grounds, not with any reference to religion?


11 posted on 10/26/2006 8:10:03 AM PDT by Jerez2
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To: Mobile Vulgus

To Islamic legal scholar Anver Emon, The problem with the veils and burkas to me is the fact you can't see and you can trip. I happen to like to be able to look someone in the eyes when I am talking to them. I don't think all of the Muslim women want to wear them either. I think they know they HAVE to wear them or face the wrath of their men. If they want to wear them fine by me but when in court or getting a drivers license then be ready to take them off as it is the custom of our country to show your face when in court or getting a license picture. I would make a very bad Muslim because I would tell them all where to go. I really am sick to death of hearing all their whining every day.


12 posted on 10/26/2006 8:11:07 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Gotta keep this one!


14 posted on 10/26/2006 8:13:49 AM PDT by Edgerunner (Democrats break...Republicans fix))
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To: Mobile Vulgus

The veil is their way to play victim, and take advantage of white guilt. Since the USA is totally under the hypnotic spell of PC, they are winning.
The veil. The taxi drivers who wouldn't transport alcohol.
The mosques with loudspeakers to drive infidels out of the area.
They are winning.


15 posted on 10/26/2006 8:14:46 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Jihadism: destroy Western Civilization and replace it with sharia)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Muslims want westerners to "understand" their thinking. Well, muslims need to understand that, historically and societally, covering one's face is the hallmark of a western criminal. Even knights in armor lifted their visors in order to declare their non-bellicosity.

This has much, much more to do with muslim control, and much less to do with "modesty". By asserting that westerners must "accommodate" their beliefs, they bely that their intention is to increasingly impose their backward beliefs on the western world until (1) we enter dhimmitude, (2) we convert to islam, or (3) we get sick of it and decide to fight tooth and nail.


16 posted on 10/26/2006 8:17:30 AM PDT by MortMan (I was going to be indecisive, but I changed my mind.)
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I really don't care if they want to cover their face or not, but they shouldn't be able to write a check, get any type of photo-id (or do anything that requries a photo id), enter a bank (why have cameras?), buy liquor (guess that wouldn't be a problem) or go to movies that have age restrictions. Probably a lot more things that should be prohibited as well.


17 posted on 10/26/2006 8:35:40 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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