Posted on 10/27/2006 9:20:40 AM PDT by truthandlife
To: Jim Webb Campaign Headquarters
Mr. Webb,
As you well know, the American people want to protect our children against child predators. Recently, Congressman Mark Foley resigned from Congress on September 29, 2006 as allegations surfaced that he had sent sexually explicit instant messages to male former Congressional pages, through AOL Instant Messenger. As a result of the disclosures, the FBI and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement opened investigations of the messages to find possible criminal charges. Mark Foley did the right thing and resigned. In February, DOJ launched Project Safe Childhood, an initiative to “combat the proliferation of technology-facilitated sexual exploitation crimes against children.” Some of your writings are very disturbing for a candidate hoping to represent the families of Virginians in the U.S. Senate and do not help the cause of combating the sexual exploitation crimes against children. Most Virginians and Americans would find passages such as those below shocking, especially coming from the pen of someone who seeks the privilege of serving in the United States Senate, one of the highest offices in the land:
– Lost Soldiers: “A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy’s penis in his mouth.”
Bantam Books, NY, 1st Edition, 2001, (hard cover), page 333. Quote is from para. 10,.Chap. 34.
We therefore call on you to immediately withdraw your candidacy from this race. We the undersigned ask that you put your personal ambitions aside, think of the greater good of the people of the United States and do the right thing — drop out of the U.S. Senate Race rather than persevering in one of self-interest that only serves to hurt the cause of combating the proliferation of sexual exploitation crimes against children.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
Webb on YouTube
http://wizbangblog.com/2006/10/27/webb-on-youtube.php
With only 12 days left till the election .. wouldn't it be easier to vote against him?
Please let us know when you sign the petition. Having children, I am sickened by this!
We could but if Democrats don't demand him to resign then the American people will know what kind of Party they truly are.
Of course! But this allows for people outside Virginia to sign it, and gives more bad publicity to Webb. Well worth the small effort.
I don't think he should have to resign over this. He was just writing what he observed in some backwards cultures.
Webb appears to be a victim of influence by backwards cultures where women are sex objects and slaves, which explains his attitude toward women in the military and why he thought it was OK to chase after a woman half his age while married.
nah! keep talking it up, use the word 'pervert', keep reading the passages and KEEP HIM ON THE BALLOT!
watch the voters shoot him down for ya.
We all know the Dems won't ask him to resign
We already had a president from a backward culture 7 years ago. Don't need any more backward culture people.
Exactly. We need to continue to keep on the offensive. There is too much at stake in this election.
Well, that too.
But we're in mud-tossing season, and it looks like a blizzard's moving in.
Which is fine by me. I like mud.
Rush just indicated that DU is having a major meltdown that their party didn't know about this and let this thing get this far. What did Nancy Pelosi know and who else knew about it? According to the Dims own rationale of the Foley incident especially their take on Hastert, Pelosi and her cohorts must resign now.
I am also a writer. I write about rape, murder, and depravity. I also write about God, how much I love my wife, and the interactions of Jesus in my personal spirituality. I do not deserve to be judged, and neither does Webb. THIS IS WRONG.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid MUST resign. They should have known about this!!
Webb replies:"..but..but.. Allen's a Jew!"
The passage quoted from the book does not describe incest or perversion. It describes a custom that, as repugnant as it seems to us, is normal and customary in that part of the world. Webb was reporting what he had seen with his own eyes while in Bangkok. He shouldn't be condemned for describing a custom that is normal in that part of the world.
If an author witnesses and describes violence, does that mean they endorse violence? No. If an author describes a crime does that mean they endorse crime? No.
I know little about Webb or his platform, but I hate to see people like you manipulated and fooled by deceitful "activists" who want Webb defeated and will stoop to using slimy methods to accomplish that.
When I saw the movie "Seven" (insane, sickening, revolting brutality) about ten years ago, I almost left the theatre, more than once before the movie ended and I later pondered how a morally balanced person could invent the horrible fiction portrayed there, and why one would want to.
Yes, it is an altogether different genre than the fiction found in these quotes from Mr. Webb's novel.
But, I think the principle question is the same.
have you read the passages?
In the end it comes down to who better represents your point-of-view? personally, i don't associate with pedofiles or promote their works. Neither do I protect their ability to promote the ideas or make money from it. you should ask yourself, where do you stand?
I didn't say it explicitly, but what I meant was he should not be judged on what he wrote. Writers are free to write about whatever they want. To cast what he wrote about as detracting from his character is simply wrong. I write about murder, rape, drug use, and misogyny, if the mood strikes me. I just finished a story about a guy getting ground into tomato bisque by a train. I'm a fantastic guy and I should definitely be president, if I may say so myself. This is not an issue and does not deserve to be a part of this campaign.
like attacking the religion of ones mother in public forum?
one would hope that presidential candidates would be focusing their attention on the political landscape, business world, economy, hopefully some humanitarian efforts, and honing their managerial skills.
That's the only thing I can think of - that Allen feels that the bare knuckles are up and his opponent is looking for a KO any way he can get it, so why shouldn't Allen. But man, man oh man, if this is the level we have to sink to in order to succeed on the political stage, I say we just have another revolution and start from scratch.
So you don't think it is relevant that Webb wrote these despicable things? He is a U.S. Senate candidate!!!!!!
I haven't heard anyone say anything about his right to write whatever he pleases. I simply fail to see why it is dirty politics to give free publicity to his writings. He offered his novels to the public. Does he not want the public to know what he wrote?
He deserves to be judged because he is running for political office. We don't all have low standards.
Your point is well taken regarding Jim Webb as an author, to a point. But everything he does in the public realm is open to judgment. And Vietnam, the U.S. Marine Corps and the Navy Cross aside, his service doesn't ipso facto entitle him to a seat in the Senate. If it did, we'd have a military Senate. And if we don't judge, what do we do in the way of exercising our intellects? Everything we - and you - do is based on judgment. What he has earned is respect for his service. Not a seat in the Senate.
And, a small point, but he didn't win the Navy Cross. He received it. It's not a competition.
There's still some mystery about that?
No of course not, obviously he wants people to know - he wants people to buy his books. Allen however is using the writings to impugn Webb's character, as if writing about something like that implicitly condones it. It does not.
" I'd say Webb has earned the right to write about whatever the hell he wants. "
Webb's Vietnam service and Navy Cross, however honorable, do not give him a lifetime pass to avoid scrutiny when he runs for public office.
When Webb entered the political arena, he should have known that his paper trail would be examined.
These are not private letters , but, published works.
If a producer of X Rated videos decides to run for office, should he expect a pass on his " art " because he served in Vietnam ?
"Jim Webb is a pervert." bump
That's what is great about this country: you can defend this sicko, and I can call him the pervert that he is.
Have you not been paying attention? Webb's camp (funded by Soros, Hillary, Christie Hefner and Larry Flynt) have been running an orchestrated smear campaign against George Allen for MONTHS and the Main Scream Media has TOTALLY IGNORED WEBB's BACKGROUND!!!
None of the fawning "profiles" and editorial endorsements have mentioned ANY of this.
But by golly they've bent over backwards to find Allen's second grade teacher's mailman's hairdresser's cousin-once-removed-by-marriage mechanic's next-door neighbor who "heard" that Allen once said a bad word.
Well, I think that Harry Reid ought to resign because of this. Where do I sign THAT petition?
But don't you see? All Democrats have a lifetime pass. Anyone who put on a uniform: Kerry, Cleland, Webb. Anyone with a disease: Fox. Anyone who lost a loved one: Jersey Girls, Cindy Sheehan.
They can enter the conversation, but they cannot be forced to actually converse.
That's why we should ditch the VISA lottery. We need to screen these weirdos out of the immigrant pool.
If with a knowing wink you believe this will damage the Webb campaign, fine.
If you really believe this is a reflection of Webb's perversion and that it's "for the children" and protection from pedophilia, I believe you are wrong.
The excerpts I have seen don't manifest prurient sexuality, only a desription of the characters and the society which Webb describes.
Suppose I wrote a book and it included the following:
"The teenage girl shyly approached her father as he entered the room. He put out his arms and she hugged him. Instantly he turned her around, drew out the knife from his belt and slit her throat".
Am I some sort of sexual sadist? Child abuser? Have murderous fantasies?
Or did I just describe a frequent occurrence - an "honor killing" in the Arab world?
It may be sophisticated to use this against Webb because it may work.
It is dishonest and defamatory to actually believe the claim against Webb.
45 so far....
To write about something does not mean you condone it. I'll say it again - I write about murder, rape, and tons of other nastiness. It doesn't mean I condone those things, and it doesn't mean that Webb condones pedophilia or any such thing. I point out his service and Navy Cross because THOSE are far better indicators of character than fiction that he might have written.
You are not running for office. Webb has asked to be judged...
That works for you. Will you now tell others how THEY should use this information?
Let's put all the facts out there and let people make their own choices.
BUMP
Mr. (I use that honorific in respect to his past accomplishments not what he has become) Webb needs the kind of help he cannot get in the US senate.
This nation already experienced 8 lost and harmful years of Clinton and his pack and their lack of a moral compass.
We do not need and cannot afford another Clinton clone serving in the US Senate.
Putting facts out there is fine. Allen is not saying "Webb wrote this....". He is saying: "Webb wrote this and he's a filthy degenerate scumbag." That's wrong.
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