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Ruby Ridge revisited: Deval let sniper off the the hook
Boston Herald ^ | November 2, 2006 | Kimberly Atkins

Posted on 11/04/2006 12:16:33 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace

As the Justice Department’s chief civil rights prosecutor, Deval Patrick made the controversial decision not to criminally prosecute an FBI sniper who shot and killed an unarmed woman as she held her infant daughter in her arms during a 1992 standoff in Ruby Ridge, Idaho.

The incident, in which U.S. Marshall William F. Degan of Quincy and the wife and son of white separatist Randy Weaver were killed during an 11-day standoff, is cited by experts as the spark that started the anti-government militia movement that exploded after the standoff in Waco, Texas, less than a year later. 1994, Patrick, the Democratic candidate for governor who was then assistant attorney general, concluded there was insufficient basis to prosecute FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi for shooting and killing 43-year-old Vicki Weaver. Horiuchi had testified that he opened fire on the woman’s husband and his friend, Kevin Harris, when he thought they were about to fire on an FBI helicopter.

Patrick made the recommendation despite a report by a task force assembled by Patrick’s boss, Attorney General Janet Reno, that found numerous problems with the FBI’s handling of the standoff, and called the protocol used by the FBI’s Hostage Rescue unconstitutional under the circumstances. The report referred the case to Patrick’s department to decide whether to charge Horiuchi. Aides to Patrick said he was unavailable for comment because he was preparing for last night’s debate. Former Justice Department spokesman Myron Marlin called the incident “a tragic one that occurred during the final months of the first Bush administration.”

“The Justice Department believed the critical element of willfulness necessary for a criminal civil rights prosecution could not be established beyond a reasonable doubt,” Marlin said in a statement to the Herald yesterday. “Such willfulness, or knowing, intentional use of unreasonable force could not be made out against the FBI agent.”

Patrick’s assessment, he noted, was“reaffirmed by a separate criminal investigative team.”

In 1995, however, a Senate subcommittee headed by Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) found “simply no justification” for the shot Horiuchi took that killed Vicki Weaver and “missed the 10-month-old baby in her arms by less than two feet.”

“Horiuchi should have known that as he fired blind through the cabin door, he was shooting into an area which could well have contained Vicki Weaver and her two younger daughters,” states the report, which took no position on whether Horiuchi should have been prosecuted.

The decision not to prosecute was ripped by both conservative and liberal groups. “It was obscene,” said author James Bovard, an outspoken critic of federal officials’ handling of the case. “There was no need for the excessive force the FBI used in gunning down a mother holding her baby. ACLU Legislative Counsel Timothy Edgar said the incident was “the result of overzealous - and unchecked - federal power.”


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1 posted on 11/04/2006 12:16:34 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
This was mass murder--with the actors committing the perfect crime.

Mrs. Clinton going to pay a few Conservative/Christians back when she resumes power!

2 posted on 11/04/2006 12:20:16 PM PST by 100-Fold_Return (In Prisons Tattletales Are the Same as Child-Molesters...hmm)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

If Mass. elects this scumbag kiss the state goodbye, it'll be David Dinkins on steroids.


3 posted on 11/04/2006 12:21:59 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
Someone once asked me if there really was a "patriot underground" in existance.

I replied: "No, because Lon Horiuchi is still alive."

4 posted on 11/04/2006 12:22:08 PM PST by FReepaholic (If ignorance ain't bliss, I don't know what is.)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

I remember lon horiuchi, who shot a woman holding a baby. Justice was not served.


5 posted on 11/04/2006 12:23:58 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: 100-Fold_Return

TEXT SAYS: " I'm from the Government--I'm here to help you"

6 posted on 11/04/2006 12:23:59 PM PST by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

I remember how outraged we were that Bill and Hill's political enemies could so arbitrarily be killed.

Little did we know what misfortunes would befall those who had the bad luck to be close to their inner circle and who chose to cross them.


7 posted on 11/04/2006 12:25:22 PM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Let's all be Magnificent Bastards. Turn out those Republican votes!)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

All this stuff on Devalued Patrick should have been dug up during the primary. I am afraid we will will be stuck with this clinton lackey leftist for quite some time.


8 posted on 11/04/2006 12:25:41 PM PST by cloud8
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

of white separatist Randy Weaver...... What, exactly, is a white separatist? If I tell you or anyone to leave me the "F" alone, am I a white separatist?


9 posted on 11/04/2006 12:26:17 PM PST by Safetgiver (Stinko De mayo, Stinko to the Commies.)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

I think someone from the government will be along to remind everyone that Randy Weaver was a felon, and the none of this would have happened if he hadn't sawed off that shotgun barrel.


10 posted on 11/04/2006 12:26:32 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: FReepaholic

Lon Tomohisa Horiuchi

Born: 9-Jun-1954

Gender: Male Religion: Roman Catholic Race or Ethnicity: Asian Sexual orientation: Straight Occupation: Government

Nationality: United States Executive summary: Sniper who killed Vicki Weaver

As an FBI sniper he shot and killed Vicki Weaver on August 22, 1992 as she was holding her infant daughter, during the Ruby Ridge standoff. It is an act many consider murder.

Wife: (six children)

11 posted on 11/04/2006 12:26:58 PM PST by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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To: FReepaholic

Well said.


12 posted on 11/04/2006 12:27:01 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
1. Wound a mexican drug dealer infiltrating the US? That's 12 years!

3. Relay orders from an imprisoned terrorist? 2 YEARS.

2. Snipe an unarmed, baby-carring mother? NO PUNISHMENT AT ALL.

13 posted on 11/04/2006 12:27:16 PM PST by gaijin
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
“Such willfulness, or knowing, intentional use of unreasonable force could not be made out against the FBI agent.”

Yeah right. He could not see clearly while looking through his telescopic sight before he pulled the trigger. It was well.....unintentional.

14 posted on 11/04/2006 12:27:49 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

"an FBI sniper who shot and killed an unarmed woman as she held her infant daughter in her arms"


I always wondered what caliber that baby was. They can be dangerous in close quarters if the wrong end is pointed at ya.


15 posted on 11/04/2006 12:28:00 PM PST by BLS (You'll never know why you're alive until you know what you would die for.)
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To: ozzymandus

Also the guy rumored to be the one popping Waco escapees during the fire...


16 posted on 11/04/2006 12:28:49 PM PST by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: All

Thank you. Don't ever forget.


17 posted on 11/04/2006 12:29:30 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

1. The federal murderers at Ruby Ridge and Waco were/are irredemable scum.

2. So is anyone who tries to excuse them in any way.

3. Those muderers (and their supporters) should go join Al Queda. They will fit right in.


18 posted on 11/04/2006 12:31:20 PM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 100-Fold_Return

Ruby Ridge was during Bush41's term.


19 posted on 11/04/2006 12:31:28 PM PST by rvoitier (Democrat Party, not Democratic Party.)
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To: gnarledmaw

I remember that. The Waco sniper hides out back featured hatch marks carved into some wooden support beam --the sniper makes a mark for each target struck, into groups of five.


20 posted on 11/04/2006 12:31:51 PM PST by gaijin
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