Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Ruby Ridge revisited: Deval let sniper off the the hook
Boston Herald ^ | November 2, 2006 | Kimberly Atkins

Posted on 11/04/2006 12:16:33 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-167 next last
To: tacticalogic
"...and the none of this would have happened if he hadn't sawed off that shotgun barrel."

If Weaver had not been entrapped into making a sawed off shotgun, the whole thing would not have happened. The point of the Government action was to get another informant friendly with the Aryan Nations. Weaver would not do it, so the Goverment made this Scheme.

21 posted on 11/04/2006 12:32:54 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: radar101

Where is Horiuchi now? Still a sniper?


22 posted on 11/04/2006 12:33:10 PM PST by Dante3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: happinesswithoutpeace

Its good to remember this stuff but the militia timeline in the article is off. Openly operated militias, those "anti-gov" or not, were already in decline by then.


23 posted on 11/04/2006 12:34:43 PM PST by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dante3

Maybe his is working for "CNN" now....


24 posted on 11/04/2006 12:34:51 PM PST by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Dante3
Where is Horiuchi now? Still a sniper?

Last I heard he was a training instructor at Quintico (sp).

25 posted on 11/04/2006 12:34:52 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: gnarledmaw

Yes, Lon Horiuchi was at Waco, and he is said to have shot several innocent people who ran from the burning building. But no followup investigations were ever allowed, and clinton had all the remaining evidence bulldozed and buried. Including the infamous front door with the bullet holes in it.

Presumably Janet Reno approved of Horiuchi being there, assuming that her foggy mind was up to such details. It's not as if he was a low-profile kind of guy, and after Ruby Ridge allowing him to go into action again with his sniper rifle was absolutely incredibly stupid, if not deliberately murderous, on the part of his superiors.

I haven't heard a single word about Horiuchi since Waco. I wonder if he is still at the FBI, no doubt being given medals and promotions by that idiot Mueller?


26 posted on 11/04/2006 12:36:19 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Cicero

"Including the infamous front door with the bullet holes in it."

Or when the finally admitted they used incendiary devices.


27 posted on 11/04/2006 12:39:35 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Cicero; Dante3; gaijin

I believe I had read that he received a promotion to some admin position shortly thereafter, I dont know that its true...


28 posted on 11/04/2006 12:40:29 PM PST by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: gaijin
From answers.com:

Three of the twelve expended .308 Winchester shell casings that the Texas Rangers reported finding in the house, were at Horiuchi's position, but officials maintain that they could have been left over from the BATF's use of the house earlier, and that it would be impossible to run ballistics tests to see which rifle fired the shots[5].

29 posted on 11/04/2006 12:40:55 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: happinesswithoutpeace

Three empty shell casings were found where Horiuchi was stationed at the time, but there was no investigation. Apparently the FBI said it couldn't be proven because his rifle had been rebarrelled. A somewhat odd thing to do in the circumstances, one would think.


30 posted on 11/04/2006 12:42:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Cicero

"A somewhat odd thing to do in the circumstances, one would think"

Not odd. A cover up.


31 posted on 11/04/2006 12:45:10 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Dante3

Whereabouts Undisclosed. The photo came from one obtained by Soldier of Fortune Magazine


32 posted on 11/04/2006 12:45:47 PM PST by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: happinesswithoutpeace
Is THIS the Deval Patrick you're talking about, who let off Horiuchi?

Deval Patrick

33 posted on 11/04/2006 12:46:36 PM PST by gaijin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gaijin

That would be him.


34 posted on 11/04/2006 12:48:37 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: tacticalogic
Good afternoon.
"none of this would have happened if he hadn't sawed off that shotgun barrel."

Shouldn't that read "If he hadn't given in to the urgings of the Government snitch that had been sent in to provide leverage to the Government in their attempts to make Weaver one"?

Michael Frazier
35 posted on 11/04/2006 12:49:32 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: gaijin
Deval Patrick


36 posted on 11/04/2006 12:50:19 PM PST by gaijin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: tacticalogic

Anyone who tries to excuse the murders at Ruby Ridge and Waco is a Clintonite scumbag.


37 posted on 11/04/2006 12:52:34 PM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: 100-Fold_Return
This was mass murder--with the actors committing the perfect crime.

Murder? Yes. Mass Murder? No. (I think you need a bunch more victims for that.)

Whoever authorized the shooter is, in my mind, every bit as culpable as Horiuchi, however.

38 posted on 11/04/2006 12:53:40 PM PST by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: All

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/horiuchi.htm is an interesting read with links.


39 posted on 11/04/2006 12:53:58 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: brazzaville

"If he hadn't given in to the urgings of the Government snitch"

"urgings"

Nice term. What type of "urging" was it?


40 posted on 11/04/2006 12:54:29 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-167 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson