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Losing Libertarians
Washington Times ^ | 11/6/06 | David Boaz

Posted on 11/07/2006 7:01:57 AM PST by libertylovinactivist

Take a look at independent voters. There are more of them than before, especially in the West. More than 25 percent of Arizona voters now register as independent or third-party voters. And according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll, they've shifted sharply toward the Democrats in this fall's elections.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 3rdpartylosers; elections; gop; greenpartyrejects; liberaltardation; liberaltarians; libertarians; republicans
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To: Jezebelle; CWOJackson
CWO-here's yet another libertarian who gets it. I'm telling ya, the majority of us feel this way.

You, sir, are a consummate idiot. I, too, am a conservative libertarian, but I'm smart enough to know not to CUT MY NOSE OFF TO SPITE MY FACE!! Sending a message to Bush is meaningless if, through your vote, you leave him powerless and without the tools to do anything about winning in foreign entanglements or any of the other concerns you mention!!!!!!! You forget that Bush managed to get the message about Harriet Meiers, and immigration to a somewhat lesser extent, WITHOUT HAVING THE RUG PULLED OUT FROM UNDERNEATH HIM AND THE PEOPLE HE NEEDS IN CONGRESS TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES. THANKS TO MORONS LIKE YOU, WE WILL NOT GET OUR JUDGES CONFIRMED AND YOU CAN LOOK AT ANOTHER GENERATION OF FAR-LEFT FEDERAL COURT DECISIONS, MURDER OF THE UNBORN, UNCERTAIN ENERGY SUPPLIES AND COSTS, AND ILLEGALS SWARMING OVER OUR BORDERS, AND THAT'S JUST FOR STARTERS. I'M JUST GETTING WARMED UP ON THE SUBJECT OF THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE YOU IDIOTS HAVE CAUSED JUST SO YOU COULD "SEND BUSH A MESSAGE"! HERE'S A NEWS FLASH FOR YOU, ACE: BUSH CAN'T RUN AGAIN, SO YOUR MESSAGE OF ANGER AT HIM IS MEANINGLESS IN A POLITICAL CONTEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

301 posted on 11/08/2006 2:40:08 PM PST by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Jezebelle
LOL! I don't for one minute believe you didn't read it. Further, the old "band-width" insult is so old and hackneyed, it even outdates the stupidity of your thinking.

Laughing out louder...I didn't!
I regard people like you as just pure fools who do nothing more but hurl insults through the security of cyberspace (and in your case you're no doubt ugly and smell bad too)!

302 posted on 11/08/2006 2:41:51 PM PST by meandog (While Bush will never fill them, Clinton isn't fit to even lick the soles of Reagan's shoes!)
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To: CWOJackson

OK, I need to go put in an appearance at the restaurant. Sorry if I was rude and condescending before, but I hope after reading my previous post of the things that were pissing me off, you'd understand. Catch you later.


303 posted on 11/08/2006 2:42:58 PM PST by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: meandog

And one other thing - people like you will be the first ones on here BITCHING about your taxes going up, inflation, and your pension investments losing value as the Dow goes down the tubes, even if you don't care about dead babies and far-left court decisions that don't affect you at the moment. hey, it's no skin off your nose, right? You're a big man!!! You really taught Bush a lesson, didn't you??? Sent him a big message, didn't you?? You da' MAN, meandog!! Big message from da' BIG Man!!

I wish all your idiotic ilk would move to the cities so when the terrorists administer their coming handiwork we get a more thorough cleansing of the gene pool.


304 posted on 11/08/2006 2:43:53 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: jmc813; Jezebelle

I words shortly after she posted them...and totally agree with them. Unfortunately, Jezebelle is in the minority of the LP. Do a quick scan of FR right now and you'll see more and more threads popping up...all with the same theme and from many sources. Conservative American's are starting to wake up to the reality of the LP.


305 posted on 11/08/2006 2:45:58 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: meandog

Ad hominem is the last bastion of shelter for idiots with no valid rebuttal.


306 posted on 11/08/2006 2:46:41 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: jmc813

Take care, have a pleasant evening and get yourself some Arrogant Bastard Ale.


307 posted on 11/08/2006 2:47:02 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Unfortunately, Jezebelle is in the minority of the LP.

She's a small-l libertarian, not a Libertarian.

Conservative American's are starting to wake up to the reality of the LP.

That, my friend, is a good thing. Maybe they'll come home to the RLC where they can make a difference.

308 posted on 11/08/2006 2:48:43 PM PST by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: meandog
He did not get "your" message. Your message was parsed by the media and by his own people into the simple collection of votes in favor of Dims, on the positions of the Dims, not on your positions.

That is how it will be played by the media and that is how the political alignment in Washington will play it. Your individual protest was not a distinction with any difference, and therefore it lost any particular value you intended it to have. It will be have the same value, by everyone in Washington D.C., as a vote for Nancy Pelosi; no matter what you wanted it to say. The reality of how your vote was and will be read, is in the result, not in your motivations. The only thing you told Bush was that you want Nacy Pelosi and her agenda to lead the Congress.

309 posted on 11/08/2006 2:52:02 PM PST by Wuli
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To: jmc813

Go already or I'll ping you to more "LP Spoiler" threads that are popping up.


310 posted on 11/08/2006 2:53:05 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Jezebelle
Ad hominem is the last bastion of shelter for idiots with no valid rebuttal.

Okay you asked for it. Libertarian? Are you sure, hon? You sound more like a lunatic at "that time" of the lunar month...go take a midol! When you feel more sane, come back. Until then consider yourself on extended ignore!

311 posted on 11/08/2006 2:57:40 PM PST by meandog (While Bush will never fill them, Clinton isn't fit to even lick the soles of Reagan's shoes!)
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To: Wuli
The only thing you told Bush was that you want Nacy Pelosi and her agenda to lead the Congress.

Er, I voted for my GOP congresswoman here in VA...The write-in message was to his Allen clone clown buddy want-to-be! Also, to the fact that his SECDEF somehow morphed himself into Robert Strange McNamara--someone I throughly despised when I served his Defense Department in helping to stuff dead Marines into body bags at Da Nang back in 1967. And I believe heard that loud and clear!

312 posted on 11/08/2006 3:14:33 PM PST by meandog (While Bush will never fill them, Clinton isn't fit to even lick the soles of Reagan's shoes!)
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To: meandog

I'm not a member of the LP party, but I am a conservative libertarian. You apparently are unaware that there is a political category known as (small "l") libertarian that has nothing directly to do with membership in a political party. It is a form of political philosophy without affiliation to an elective or political process.

The rest of your post is as unsubstantive as the rest of your ad hominem unconnected to any substantive reply to the charges of colossal stupidity which have been deservedly levied against you.

So, either get with the program and explain your gross intellectual bankruptcy, or STFU, go crawl into your corner, and write messages to Bush on the wall, messages that you can be proud of as you watch Iranian terrorist mullahs take over Iraq, everyone's taxes go up, inflation rise, unborn babies die, bizarro leftwing court decisions manifest every aspect of our lives. Bush will get as much out of your wall messages as he did from your vote, idiot.


313 posted on 11/08/2006 3:21:32 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: meandog

Like I said, you voted for cut-and-run Pelosi.


314 posted on 11/08/2006 3:28:15 PM PST by Wuli
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To: JamesP81
re: Despite all the negative talk about conservative christians, it looks to me like the libertarian wing of the party is a lot more likely to undo the GOP.)))

Bingo. Only, I didn't think they could do it with their piddling numbers. I thought they'd manage to harangue the GOP into alienating the religious and driving away the support.

Only the religious are used to not being liked--and the religious really hate to lose. It's the libertarians who draw such satisfaction out of losing and paying higher taxes as a result.

Neurotic, effete, lazy, libertarians.

315 posted on 11/08/2006 3:32:20 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: meandog

AH! You're just another anti-war lefty hiding under a cloak of military veteranship. Is your name Murtha? Ned Lamont?


316 posted on 11/08/2006 3:32:54 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle
Good God, you again! Leave me alone! You're the Grecian harpee of legend, the screeching witch of Eastern Oz, the pretend libertarian who's really a Bible-thumping Tammy Faye Bakker, embryonic-stem-research denying, insane Iraqi war strategy backing, failed war-on-drugs advocate, prolife even-in-rape-and-incest cases, book-burning and censorship-backing, hypocritical Pharisee!
317 posted on 11/08/2006 3:39:59 PM PST by meandog (While Bush will never fill them, Clinton isn't fit to even lick the soles of Reagan's shoes!)
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To: meandog

You reap what you sow, dude. Vote like an idiot, then brag about it on this forum, and voila! you get people like me telling you the truth about your gross stupidity.


318 posted on 11/08/2006 3:43:15 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

So who'd you vote for...high school class president? You don't sound mature enough yet to actually participate in adult elections!


319 posted on 11/08/2006 3:45:24 PM PST by meandog (While Bush will never fill them, Clinton isn't fit to even lick the soles of Reagan's shoes!)
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To: Jezebelle
AH! You're just another anti-war lefty hiding under a cloak of military veteranship. Is your name Murtha? Ned Lamont?

Although Murtha served his country as a Marine, don't believe Lamont ever wore a uniform...BTW, what kind of uniform did you wear? Girl Scout or those niffty little ditties seen at McDonalds?

320 posted on 11/08/2006 3:50:39 PM PST by meandog (While Bush will never fill them, Clinton isn't fit to even lick the soles of Reagan's shoes!)
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