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Repost: (+) THE ART OF THE (WEAPONS) CACHE (+)
www.sit-rep.com (defunct website?) ^ | March 1, 2001 | Travis McGee

Posted on 11/08/2006 7:21:48 PM PST by SW6906

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To: Bear_Slayer

Hey, I liked the guy and I didn't ban him, I'm just saying that's why he was banned. It's not my perception that matters, it's the big guys perception that matters.


141 posted on 11/11/2006 7:45:49 AM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: ozarkgirl
I like the guy too and many others that left when he was banned. I'm pi$$ed that he lost his priviledges over something as simple as what he posted and I wanted, with you, to clear up why he was banned. One can go to the original thread and read the transcript. I think JR was very heavy handed in his reaction to Travis.

I wonder if JR is eating crow now that the GOP lost the senate and house. Maybe him and Rush shouldn't have carried water for so many quislings. Ya think?

FR used to be a spirited place. I'm sorta glad the GOP lost the house and senate. Maybe the GOP can once again realise how bad the Dems are gonna destroy this country, and maybe the GOP won't cower from or pander to them, or at worst, sell out the party to line their own pockets.

142 posted on 11/11/2006 8:04:11 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: GingisK

the brass varies by lot number for both military and civilian cartridges.
I weigh the brass, and group them by weight. If one case weighs more than the other, and the outside is the same, then the difference is on the inside, The heavier one actually shoots higher (I find), most likely due to the higher pressure when touched off, due to same charge in a smaller space. The difference can be more than 20 fps out the barral.


143 posted on 11/11/2006 9:19:50 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: oyez
What I was getting at is for most of it is too late. Our neighbors know we hunt. The see us load up and go to the range. We got the trucks that say "Sportsman". There's the bass boat. We're already profiled.

"Profiled"? Well, of course. As a white, middle-aged, heterosexual Christian male, I'm profiled many times over. The larger worry is being "on the list" - which I most assuredly am. Back before the anti-gun crowd caught my attention and made me re-evaluate certain practices of mine, I bought several firearms over the counter from a local dealer. Years later, that dealer was investigated and eventually the FFL holder was convicted of selling guns to felons. All the transactions were legit, as I understand the regs governing FFL holders; it was an ATF fishing expedition. But I digress.

Bottom line - ALL of the dealer's 4473s were seized. So, the feds know what I bought there - as well as the purchases by many others, including my dad, cousins, friends, etc. We're all in the database. So now, I consider all of the stuff bought on a 4473 to be "sacrificial". It's not the entirety of my collection, though... and it's certainly not all in one place.

Here's another thought: Do y'all remember the Smith & Wesson "agreement"? Well, it's not dead. In fact, I think I just saw it twitch.

144 posted on 11/11/2006 12:23:34 PM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Charles Martel
Bottom line - ALL of the dealer's 4473s were seized.

Yeah, I can see where an activist Federal Judge could link a search warrant to every one. Agents could go online for a particular 4473 and the server could come up with all kinds of information plus a ready made search warrant. Is this a wonderful country, or what?

145 posted on 11/11/2006 12:42:48 PM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: going hot

Thank you! Makes me want to get back into loading. I sure have a mean pile of empty brass now.

How do you measure muzzle velocity?


146 posted on 11/11/2006 4:22:10 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

there are kits. You set up the device just ahead of the bench, and shoot through two hoops. The minicomputer measures the bullet speed from the first ring though the other.


147 posted on 11/12/2006 3:23:09 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: GingisK

http://www.airgunexpress.com/Accessories/ShootingChrony/alphachrony119-01-1000.htm

Chrony to measure muzzle velocity.


148 posted on 11/12/2006 5:38:07 AM PST by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: SW6906
I have recently become very enamored with a Taurus 4410 Tracker 45/410 Revolver. I want it bad, but it occurred to me that one day it may be considered the equivalent of a sawed off Shotgun and I will be forced to "hand it over"

To me it seems to be an excellent Home Defense weapon, the first and maybe second round being 410 #4 or #6 and follow up with the next three or four being being 45

What are your thoughts on both the gun grabber aspect as well as the Home Defense attributes

TT
149 posted on 11/12/2006 5:48:16 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: TexasTransplant
Regarding the Taurus, I'm not sure I would want such a gun. Seems to me whenever anyone tries to do more than one simple thing with a tool, they end up doing both badly. Better to have more than one tool - each dedicated to the task at hand - and get it done right. JMHO.

You might have a point about the gun grabber aspects. I could see them going that route just like they did with "assault rifles" that are functionally identical to most any other rifle, just "military" in appearance.

Read my tagline: there is no such thing as having too many guns. I keep a Mossberg 500 (?) shotgun with the shorter (legal) barrel, plug removed and pistol grip on it for home defense. I have it loaded bird shot - bird shot - buck shot - buck shot - slug. I figure it is in order of needing to get the perps attention. If he's still coming by the time I get to the slug, the slug will certainly stop him. ;o)

150 posted on 11/14/2006 4:41:19 AM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: SW6906
>>>>>"I have it loaded bird shot - bird shot - buck shot - buck shot - slug. I figure it is in order of needing to get the perps attention. If he's still coming by the time I get to the slug, the slug will certainly stop him. ;o)"<<<<<<

By the time you get to the slug you would have to decide which half of the perp you want to shoot.

TT
151 posted on 11/14/2006 6:53:51 AM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: xrp
Free Republic is the better for all the longtime conservative posters it's banned.

/sarcasm

152 posted on 11/14/2006 7:06:19 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: Petruchio
If I was going to cache some firearms, I would not cache all. First off, I would sort by which ones have a paper trail. Those would be left at home for the JBT's to find. After all, they already know I have those ones . . . Those with absolutely no paper trail (no 4473, no sales receipt, no gunsmith records, etc. ) would get cached with ammo and cleaning kits.

You can always keep a few to turn in in good faith and for the rest, say you sold/traded/gave them away. Copy of the classified ad you took out (you told all callers they were already sold) a handwritten receipt with drivers license # (how were you to know it was fake?) may be just enough to let you live. Probably not a good idea to report anything stolen though. If you ever give it to your grandson and he gets stopped for a traffic ticket, you don't want him to be in possession of a "stolen gun".

153 posted on 01/13/2007 3:06:19 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

So, it would not be a good idea to say they were stolen "a week from next Tuesday" ???


154 posted on 01/13/2007 4:46:19 PM PST by Petruchio (* Censored *)
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To: Petruchio
So, it would not be a good idea to say they were stolen "a week from next Tuesday" ???

I guess my concern is that once reported as stolen, it will always be stolen. Keeping it next to your bed will essentially carry the same legal risk as keeping an unregistered machinegun next to your bed. You have no other choice but to bury it in a cache.

Should your days turn to twilight and you never needed to use your cache, you'll want to let a son or grandson know where it/they are. Unfortunately, as "stolen" weapons, they'll be able to do nothing with them other than keep them cached or run the risk of being caught in possession of stolen property.

By selling/trading/giving them away, you can always come back later and claim you happened to run across the guy you sold it to and bought it back.

155 posted on 01/13/2007 5:46:20 PM PST by fso301
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To: SW6906

A Goody for later..


156 posted on 11/12/2008 12:28:27 PM PST by Chinstrap61a
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To: Chinstrap61a

bump


157 posted on 11/12/2008 12:31:21 PM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: SW6906

BOOM!


158 posted on 11/12/2008 1:00:06 PM PST by bonnieblue4me (You can put lipstick on a donkey (or a dimrat), but it is still an ass!)
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To: SW6906
REBUMP!

/jasper

159 posted on 11/12/2008 2:19:51 PM PST by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie!!)
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To: Jasper

Book mark.


160 posted on 11/12/2008 2:21:46 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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