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Indiana Democrats Running As Conservatives
wcpo news ^ | 10/21/2006 1:20:31 PM | A.P.

Posted on 11/08/2006 8:09:06 PM PST by do the dhue

KOKOMO, Ind. (AP) -- The Democratic challengers considered most likely to unseat incumbent Republican congressmen in Indiana next month are all running as conservatives.

Former Congressman Baron Hill's Web site mentions "My Faith in God," "The Sanctity of Marriage," and opposition to late-term abortions.

Joe Donnelly says he opposes abortion and wants no part of a mandated troop withdrawal from Iraq.

Vanderburgh County Sheriff Brad Ellsworth campaigns on his career in law enforcement and appears on his Web site carrying a hunting rifle.

Ellsworth is running against incumbent John Hostettler in the Eighth District, Donnelly against Chris Chocola in the Second District and Hill against Mike Sodrel in the Ninth District.

The three Democrats have benefited from more than $3.5 million from the Democratic campaign committee, most of it in commercials attacking their rivals, yet say they are not Washington insiders.

And neither Donnelly nor Ellsworth will say how he would vote when it comes time to elect a Speaker -- sure evidence that Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi of California is not viewed as a political asset.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2006election; conservatives; democrats; indiana
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To: do the dhue
Private Companies?

What's wrong with having private companies build and run roads faster and at lower cost than the state government can?

61 posted on 11/08/2006 9:20:27 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: do the dhue

Yes.


62 posted on 11/08/2006 9:21:51 PM PST by stockstrader
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To: diesel00
I don't see much of a center. I see a nation polarized. I see the commie liberals on the left and the God fearin' Americans on the Right. I think there are some in the middle, but they don't like either Dems or repubs. I think mostly the Repubs could win them by bringing smaller Government and the like and they could win a lot of the Independents.

I really don't run into those who are open border Republicans, or gun control Republicans, or baby killin' Republicans. There sure as heck very well may be some, but I don't see them. Just how big is our 'center'? 10 percent? fifteen?
63 posted on 11/08/2006 9:23:14 PM PST by do the dhue (If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Nothing, but what is wrong with those companies being Domestic so the money stays in our country?
64 posted on 11/08/2006 9:24:31 PM PST by do the dhue (If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.)
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To: stockstrader

So, these companies out bid everybody or something? How did they get a 75 year contract?


65 posted on 11/08/2006 9:26:27 PM PST by do the dhue (If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.)
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To: do the dhue

10-15% is a huge difference when elections are so polarized. Essentially in the last decade, national elections have been decided on very small margins. What I mean about the center is that we can't afford to lose that 10-15% which seem inconsequential, but like last night, bites us in the arse.


66 posted on 11/08/2006 9:27:28 PM PST by diesel00
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To: do the dhue
Nothing, but what is wrong with those companies being Domestic so the money stays in our country?

Cintra has lots of experience with designing and operating toll roads. That's why they are building the Trans-Texas Corridor in partnership with Zachry.

67 posted on 11/08/2006 9:29:01 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative
As a Paleo Conservative, I would think you would be against having a foreign company owning a US Toll Road.
68 posted on 11/08/2006 9:30:54 PM PST by do the dhue (If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.)
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To: diesel00

OK. I see exactly what you are saying. I do think that if the Repubs would spend less and cut pork barrel spending then a lot of those folks in the middle would vote Republican.


69 posted on 11/08/2006 9:33:13 PM PST by do the dhue (If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Do you think that the new and allegedly more socially conservative democrats will support the ultra-liberal candidates for the speakership and chairman posts or do you suppose that there will be some surprise compromise candidates?


70 posted on 11/08/2006 9:34:12 PM PST by old republic
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To: do the dhue

Its also how Warner won in Virginia.


71 posted on 11/08/2006 9:35:22 PM PST by linn37 (Love your Phlebotomist)
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To: do the dhue

I just noticed that I have to change my tag.


72 posted on 11/08/2006 9:39:06 PM PST by do the dhue (How come the Dems have not fixed Iraq yet? I have no ideas and I offer obstructionism only)
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To: linn37
Are you from Virginia?

If so, how do you think Warner will vote on a gun bill or gay marriage?
73 posted on 11/08/2006 9:40:19 PM PST by do the dhue (How come the Dems have not fixed Iraq yet? I have no ideas and I offer obstructionism only)
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To: Paleo Conservative
But will they actually vote that way once they're in Congress?

No. These alleged "conservative" Democrats are just like nearly every other Democrat across the country - - they are brazen, shameless liars. One by one they'll expose themselves. But they are a sneaky crowd....

The way the game is played, they will be allowed to vote "conservative" when their votes don't matter, but when some liberal legislation is close they'll come home to San Fransicko with their tails between their legs.

74 posted on 11/08/2006 9:41:15 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: stockstrader
The loss of manufacturing jobs in the Midwest--is threatening to turn the whole Midwest BLUE.

Because you know how well the already blue state of Michigan is doing.

75 posted on 11/08/2006 9:43:30 PM PST by RockinRight (The loss is temporary, hopefully we learn from our mistakes.)
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To: Lancey Howard
The way the game is played, they will be allowed to vote "conservative" when their votes don't matter, but when some liberal legislation is close they'll come home to San Fransicko with their tails between their legs.

I can see that happening. If they do, I hope the folks make 'em pay.
76 posted on 11/08/2006 9:47:33 PM PST by do the dhue (How come the Dems have not fixed Iraq yet? I have no ideas and I offer obstructionism only)
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To: do the dhue
It's ridiculous to SELL it to a foreign company.

I agree that letting private industry maintain and run it is a good idea--IF the leases are 'short-term' (less than 5 years) where competitive bidding can once again enter the equation--along with analysis of how well the privatization is working.

But to SELL it was outrageous--and most Hoosiers agree.

77 posted on 11/08/2006 9:49:47 PM PST by stockstrader
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To: do the dhue
The 75 year lease is the 'equivalent' of SELLING it.

Again, no one has a problem with running it more efficiently (as private industry obviously would do),,,,but to find a FOREIGN company,,,,and to allow for NO competitive rebidding,,,,or performance evaluation,,,or fee limits (although I'm assuming there WERE toll caps put it, but if they were, they got little publicity),,,is just not a prudent thing to do. Far from it.

78 posted on 11/08/2006 9:56:15 PM PST by stockstrader
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To: stockstrader
I am with you 100%. I am surprised that ALL Hoosiers don't agree.
79 posted on 11/08/2006 10:07:18 PM PST by do the dhue (How come the Dems have not fixed Iraq yet? I have no ideas and I offer obstructionism only)
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To: do the dhue
Well, that gets back to the discrepancy between northern and sounthern Indiana again.

The Toll Road is up in far north Indiana--basically used by cross country trucks/travelers,,,,AND PEOPLE IN NORTHERN INDIANA. The revenues from the 75 year lease (3+ billion dollars) will be used for transportation projects in the entire state.

SOOOOOOOO,,,,the people in Northern IN pay the vast majority of the tolls that are paid by Hoosiers--while only getting a slice of the road funds.

It's no wonder that many down state think it is a WONDERFUL idea....lol They pay virtually NONE of the tolls---but get a disproportionate slice of the pie.

80 posted on 11/08/2006 10:13:15 PM PST by stockstrader
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