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Meet The New Speaker (Pelosi supported initiatives for needle exchange programs for AIDS sufferers
WorldNetDaily ^ | 11/7/06 | Staff

Posted on 11/09/2006 10:43:32 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: rahbert

Yes indeed and once again reelected with almost no contest. She supposedly reps me and my wife ......


21 posted on 11/09/2006 11:15:02 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: grundle
No diabetic has ever contracted AIDS from injecting insulin, because it's legal for them to buy clean needles.

In Massachusetts, you can't buy syringes without a prescription. There might be a needle exchange program here -- I remember hearing something about it, but not sure how it came out. I know there's a methadone clinic in Boston, but last year or so, when it was proposed to make needles available without prescription, there was a hue and cry. Personally, I'm not sure I think anything should be available by prescription only; of course, health insurance shouldn't have to cover drugs that aren't prescribed. (I only care about the syringes, because I used to have a diabetic cat, my beloved Sadie, RIP 1991, so I needed a prescription for her needles; for insulin, I was surprised to learn, you don't need a prescription.)

22 posted on 11/09/2006 11:16:45 AM PST by maryz
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

A good first lesson for Republicans, when something like this can be used as a political weapon nationwide, USE IT!


23 posted on 11/09/2006 11:18:19 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: maryz
Not to sound callous, but if they already have AIDS, why do they need a needle exchange program?

Because druggies have a nasty habit of sharing needles and transmitting HIV/Hepatitis to others. This is what the Needle Exchange programs are designed to combat.. if you can get your own clean needle for free, you don't need to share. The effectiveness of said programs are debatable.

Yes, people SHOULD be able to buy needles (and drugs) on their own, but folks would get squeamish about junkies in Walgreens while filling their post election Prozac scrip.

24 posted on 11/09/2006 11:20:04 AM PST by Truth-The Anti Spin
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To: Truth-The Anti Spin
I only said that because the article specified needle exchange for AIDS sufferers -- if it had said for intravenous drug users it would have made sense . . . in its way.
25 posted on 11/09/2006 11:31:13 AM PST by maryz
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To: grundle
I'm against the government paying for the needles or running the program. Heroin users should pay for their own needles at private stores.

In a perfect world, OK. In the real world, they will get aids and end up at county hospital, costing the taxpayers about $1k a day. Then they will get government supplied AIDS drugs, and government disabilty pay.

I would rather the government gave the $5 worth of needles.

26 posted on 11/09/2006 11:32:08 AM PST by Hugin
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To: maryz; oblomov; GOP_1900AD; atomicskunk; T.Smith; grundle; lilylangtree; Star Traveler; rahbert; ...
Not to sound callous, but if they already have AIDS, why do they need a needle exchange program?

How about to avoid spreading HIV/AIDS, whether to other intravenous drug abusers or their unsuspecting sexual significant others? Are you aware that HIV/AIDS patients get Medicaid drug benefits that cost approximately $24,900 annually.

"Approximately 13,100 hospital discharges of "pre-AIDS" patients (patients with HIV infection but not AIDS) and 49,000 patients with AIDS were identified. On average, the pre-AIDS patients were hospitalized once during the year. Patients with AIDS were admitted an average of 2.1 times. When the mean cost of inpatient care was added to outpatient care, monitoring, potent antiretroviral therapy, and community care costs, the average annual cost was estimated at $17,600 per patient for those in the pre-AIDS state versus $24,900 for a patient with AIDS, yielding an annual cost difference of $7,300 per patient."

You can look up their increased life expectancy with the newer HAART drugs for HIV/AIDS. It was 10 years before HAART drugs.

P.S. We're stuck with Medicaid until we go bust.

27 posted on 11/09/2006 12:17:44 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
How about to avoid spreading HIV/AIDS, whether to other intravenous drug abusers or their unsuspecting sexual significant others?

Then why didn't it say needle exchange for "intravenous drug users" rather than "AIDS sufferers"? That was my point.

28 posted on 11/09/2006 12:30:00 PM PST by maryz
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Then why didn't it say needle exchange for "intravenous drug users" rather than "AIDS sufferers"?

I have no idea. I just know what I have read. Enter needle exchange and (HIV or AIDS) into PubMed. Enter "needle exchange" at PubMedCentral for complete articles. Include the quotation marks there.

29 posted on 11/09/2006 1:03:09 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

She wants to supply the needles and who will supply the illegal drugs and the money to pay for the illegal drugs. Will these people be exempt from prosecution for possession? Seems all she is doing is fostering the illegal drug trade and drug cartels.


30 posted on 01/03/2007 2:09:53 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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