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The Gloves Are Off (Time For Conservatives To Fight Back Against Bipartisan Cut And Run Crowd Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 11/10/2006 | Melanie Morgan

Posted on 11/09/2006 10:16:11 PM PST by goldstategop

The country is buzzing about Rush Limbaugh's post-election comments that he felt liberated now that he would no longer have to shill for those who had not earned his unequivocal support. Limbaugh said, "I feel liberated, ladies and gentlemen, because I feel like I don't have to carry the water for people that I think don't deserve to have their water carried."

Limbaugh's success as a talk-radio host comes from his incredible talent at analyzing the lay of the land, breaking down the issues of the day for his audience and seeing things that most people miss when sizing up a news story or political debate.

For the past few years, Rush has grown increasingly disenchanted with Republicans in Congress and inside the Bush administration who repeatedly put their own personal and political interests ahead of the interests of this nation.

Yet, Rush was delicate in his criticisms of Republican missteps, given that these were divisions within the Republican family. He preferred instead to cajole, prod and encourage GOP decision-makers to follow the path of conservatism so as to lead this nation to greener pastures. He tried to explain that by doing so they would ultimately also advance their own personal ambitions and be rewarded for such good work.

Unfortunately, many Republicans in the Bush administration and on Capitol Hill have had other ideas about the future for this nation, and too often Bush and his Republican colleagues in Congress rebuffed conservative solutions to the problems facing America.

You know the issues of betrayal that have angered conservative activists the most: amnesty plans for illegal aliens, massive federal spending, multiple corruption scandals, the prescription drug plan, Harriet Miers, etc.

Even when it came to the war against terrorism there were too many times when cut-and-run voices managed to neuter the Bush administration from taking the fight to the terrorists and aggressively selling the case for war to the public.

On occasion, I have been somewhat critical of the Bush administration for failing to articulate a clear, concise message about the Global War on Terror. I did it knowing that it would cause a backlash among people who support our troops and want nothing more than to see us win in Iraq and other fronts in the fight against terrorism.

I've felt it was necessary for the administration to hear from many of us who are working tirelessly to make sure that the anti-war left in this country didn't dominate the discussion. We've needed to explain why it is that we are engaged in a life and death struggle with radical Islamists who murder, rape and kidnap indiscriminately as a tactic to advance their forced Shariah law upon growing numbers of people.

I failed.

I think that this week Rush Limbaugh realizes that he failed, too. Both of us have tried to be loyal to the greater cause even when we felt that at times we were being taken down the wrong path.

In the end, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, myself and many others recognized that as much as we felt betrayed on many fronts by Republicans in Congress and at times by the White House, the fact remained that our nation is at war and the Democrat Party has decided that we should surrender to the enemy.

Sorry, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Jack Murtha, but surrender is not an option. So Republican pundits and grass-roots leaders have tried in different ways to work from within the GOP to stop the drift from conservatism that was taking place. Like I said, we failed.

Sadly, the Bush White House has taken exactly the wrong message from this election. Mr. Bush has decided he will appease his critics by firing Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, a true warrior who tried to fight the established bureaucracy at the Pentagon. I'm sure that Madame Speaker, Nancy Pelosi (D-Islamic Republic of America), is thrilled with this decision, as are the editorial geniuses at the New York Times.

Bush has also said that he is seeking cooperation with Democrats in enacting a guest-worker program (read amnesty) for people pouring across our borders, some of whom are terrorists.

Our president is moving in a direction that, I fear, will result in more terrorist attacks on American soil, if he is left unchecked by political pressure.

And that's where you come in.

My philosophy in dealing with political enemies is that when they hit you, you hit back twice as hard. The anti-war left's election victory this Tuesday has hit this country with an attack more serious to our nation's future than was 9-11.

Now is not the time to allow Republicans in Congress or in the White House to sell out to Pelosi, Reid and the cut-and-run crowd.

It's time to take the gloves off and fight for the cause we believe in, even if that means fighting members from within our own family from time to time.


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We may have lost an election. But don't let the Bipartisan Cut And Run Crowd stop conservatives from fighting back. Our country is at stake.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

1 posted on 11/09/2006 10:16:14 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

I like Rush. I think he should wait his turn this time.


2 posted on 11/09/2006 10:17:59 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: goldstategop
Agreed. Bipartisan to Dems only means we go along with everything they want. I'd love to see THEM compromise for once. I won't hold my breath.
3 posted on 11/09/2006 10:18:40 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: goldstategop
One more thing. I think Christopher Hitchens sarcastically said it best......'I always think it is a good idea to let the enemy know exactly when you plan on giving up'. He's a lefty but he makes sense on the War on Terror.
4 posted on 11/09/2006 10:21:17 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: goldstategop
In other words, Limbaugh (and many other conservative radio talkshow hosts) didn't have as much influence with the voters as they thought they did.

What the talkshow hosts were selling wasn't what the voters were seeing in Washington with the Republicans in charge. And the vote for them anyway because you don't have any where else to go didn't work.
5 posted on 11/09/2006 10:25:43 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: goldstategop
Bush better grow a spine than believe that America decided to follow the MSM.
6 posted on 11/09/2006 10:28:40 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: TomGuy
And the vote for them anyway because you don't have any where else to go didn't work.

That's the point - it rarely does - these people didn't run on things themselves & the only running, in fact, that was done, was as far from principle & responsibility, thus leaving the differentiation between the two parties non-distinct (ask Linc), particularly when combined with outright propaganda war via msm.

7 posted on 11/09/2006 10:30:20 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: goldstategop
you remember this golden oldie?

GEORGE - NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO GO WOBBLY ON US

8 posted on 11/09/2006 10:31:30 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: goldstategop

bttt


9 posted on 11/09/2006 10:33:11 PM PST by kalee
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To: TomGuy
I listen to a lot of late night talk radio, not the Art Bell/Noory conspiracy stuff but the trucker type shows that focus on politics and current events. It has been my observation that Joe six pack hauling goods down the road saw the Republicans as getting a little too big for their britches, the Trans Texas corridor being pushed through for selfish corporate interests, and sky high diesel fuel prices. A high number of callers to these programs said they voted independent or against established republicans. That is obviously just anecdotal evidence, but has been my observation of what the average blue collar voter was seeing.
10 posted on 11/09/2006 10:34:03 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: goldstategop
We may have lost an election. But don't let the Bipartisan Cut And Run Crowd stop conservatives from fighting back. Our country is at stake.

Yeah, right....Our Country was at stake TUESDAY, and too many stayed home!!!

All or nothing is their credo!

The purists got in a snit and gave up ANY say they (and we) had in order to "teach the bastards a lesson".

Now, what have they got -- just a WHOLE LOT MORE to whine and bitch about -- along with weak security to come, NO chance for anymore Aliotos(sp) or Roberts on SCOTUS, higher taxes and more entitlements, a NO chance for tough border and immigration laws, etc. etc. -- not to mention, a BIG slap in the face of the troops.

It's clear now that too many "conservatives" stayed home. Instead of working to replace the RINOs in primaries -- which requires WORK, not just bitching -- they gave away the store and kicked out a good many REAL conservatives cause they didn't go to the polls.

My tag line says what I think!
11 posted on 11/09/2006 10:34:34 PM PST by Jackson Brown (ANYONE who knew the democrats, yet stayed home and helped them take congress is an enemy of the US!)
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To: goldstategop

Thank God I voted. I can look at myself in the mirror.


12 posted on 11/09/2006 10:44:04 PM PST by tanuki
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To: goldstategop

Excuse me but I don't put much faith in talking heads or radio show hosts.. They are there to make money first, entertain and sway opinion last.

Him having a come home to Jesus moment now has little import , imo.

Rush was reluctant to even endorse anyone in the California Recall and, in the end didn't when a fine conservative could have used that lift and show of support, while many others, most out of staters, openly and eagerly jumped on the Rino bandwagon including Hannity and quite a few others.

We all know what has resulted since that debacle both from a spending, debtload and social standpoint.

Maybe if he put his money where his mouth was and mike are, it would mean more to me. jmo.


13 posted on 11/09/2006 10:44:43 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Aloha!!!)
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To: goldstategop
See then petition HERE
14 posted on 11/09/2006 10:46:43 PM PST by MaineVoter2002 (Election 2006 - Democrat Win, Conservative Mandate)
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To: kinoxi

"... wait his turn"


For what ..??


15 posted on 11/09/2006 10:46:55 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: CyberAnt

He wasn't exactly right this time around. I think he should pause for a few days and reflect. You disagree?


16 posted on 11/09/2006 10:49:10 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: SpaceBar

A lot of conservatives do not like NAFTA, CAFTA, globalism, and huge spending. All that turns me off big time but I vote R anyway. Anything - even a RINO - is better than a Democrat. But it's getting more and more tiring to have to vote for the lesser evil.

One of my senators is Gordon Smith, so I know what I'm talking about. Actually, the last time he ran I just couldn't stomach voting for him so I protest voted for Lon Mabon, since I knew Smith was going to win without my precious vote.


17 posted on 11/09/2006 10:50:50 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: MaineVoter2002
Freeped and sent!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

18 posted on 11/09/2006 10:53:34 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kinoxi

Yes - I disagree.

I am able to listen to Rush most of the time at work, but there are sometimes when I'm not able to hear the whole program so I have 24/7 which allows me to listen from the web or download it to my MP3. This means that I often hear portions of the program more than once.

I believe Rush got a lot of flack over his negative comments of the Bush admin. Even I didn't always approve of what he was saying - except on the "guest worker" issue - I did agree with Rush that it was nothing more than "amnesty".

Because of that, I tend to agree with Rush - he has leveled off his attacks against the admin when possibly they might have done the most good.

I'm glad Rush has decided to go back to his original show plan - to say what he thinks even when it goes against the grain of everybody.


19 posted on 11/09/2006 11:04:58 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: CyberAnt

I like him. He handles adversity admirably. I think he needs a vacation. It is only my opinion, but I stand by it.


20 posted on 11/09/2006 11:09:17 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: goldstategop

Rush should have sounded off against the Republicans long ago. What happened to the party of small government, fiscal conservatism and individual liberty?

The Republicans have no one to blame but themselves. We had every branch of government and we governed like Democrats. I shouldn't say "we", because it got so bad I no longer consider myself a republican. I am a fiscal conservative and that is it.

We have two parties. Both of them are unwilling to do anything about the size of government. Screw both of them. I am glad the republicans got canned. Maybe they can do some soul searching and find the ideological underpinnings. Maybe bible thumping and "God Hates Fags" isn't a constructive way to run a government. Maybe ballancing a budget and not passing on debt to future generations would be a place to start.


21 posted on 11/09/2006 11:11:14 PM PST by Milton Friedman (Free The People!)
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To: kinoxi

Well .. he probably does need a vacation. I think he's held off because of the election - but now I expect with the holidays that he'll take some much needed time and spend it with his family.


22 posted on 11/09/2006 11:22:02 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Milton Friedman

Excuse me, but what gives you the right use the name Milton Friedman? Is that your real name?


23 posted on 11/09/2006 11:23:31 PM PST by RussP
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To: Jackson Brown

I agree totally with your observation of what I call
the prissy conservative. I they fell slightly offended they cut'n'run. They too often have unrealistic expectations
wanting immediate gratification.

Now the clock is turned back a great deal. If the Iraq
war is imperiled they are to blame. There will be hell to pay for decades if the democrats purge this war effort. We are still doubted over the legacy of cut'n'run in Vietnam
Clinton iced the cake.

What we have now are a bunch of neo-comms in congress
which shadow the 1974 elections.
Thanks cut'n'runners.


24 posted on 11/09/2006 11:25:04 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: CyberAnt

I wish him well.


25 posted on 11/09/2006 11:25:30 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Milton Friedman

Oh, so you like the hard left? Your no conservative.
Thanks for the hard core left you elected, bud.


26 posted on 11/09/2006 11:27:44 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: Milton Friedman

What the heck are you talking about? "God hates fags," bible thumping? Last I checked, our government wasn't being run with either of those. Let me guess: you're now pleased that the neo-comms have won, so that you can see the Republicans get their proper come-uppance. Well, guess again, dude. It's you and me who are about to take a beating. If you were pissed about the way things were being run before, just stand the f*** by, 'cause socialism's about to go nuclear. Just think how happy you'll be, when you get to be REALLY mad about stuff. BTW, how's it feel to be rooting for the same thing as our enemy?


27 posted on 11/09/2006 11:30:27 PM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: goldstategop
Our president is moving in a direction that, I fear, will result in more terrorist attacks on American soil, if he is left unchecked by political pressure.

What melodramatic nonsense.

28 posted on 11/09/2006 11:37:26 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: SpaceBar
Trans Texas corridor being pushed through for selfish corporate interests

The Trans Texas Corridor was a non-issue in the Texas governors race and Perry won big time.

What is this hangup people have with "corporate interests"? It takes corporations to take on big projects. Thousands of small business, like mine, work for people and corporations that are making money.

In my opinion, all economics are "trickle down". I prefer to tap into the private sector's trickle, as opposed to the government's (tax payers) trickle.

29 posted on 11/09/2006 11:40:33 PM PST by BaylorDad (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country! (typing class 101))
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To: goldstategop

Pelosi hasn't even become Speaker yet. But she's already commited at least two crimes: One, promising that she will run the most ethical House in US history; and two, promising that she does not seek vengeance. She will be shown to be a liar on both counts before long.


31 posted on 11/09/2006 11:43:26 PM PST by TimSkalaBim
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To: goldstategop

Take off the gloves and equip yourselves with brass knuckles.


32 posted on 11/09/2006 11:46:57 PM PST by xc1427 (It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees...Midnight Oil (Power and the Passion))
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To: goldstategop

Ever since Tuesday and the outcome, I have been frantically trying to figure out how we as conservatives can stop this foolish, childish cut and run idea that the compassionate, caring (so they believe) democats are hoping to do.
First to all conservatives out there, we have to be able to communicate within our own ranks. To much of this election was about conservatives not being content with 80% of their ideas being advanced. Yes, on many issues Bush was more centrist than we would like, but we knew that going in. Yes, we had absolute retards (esp. senate) who were elected as repubs, but were obvisiously borderline socialist. Yes, We ALL have our own "pet" issues however, conservatives as a whole, this election acted like spoiled 4 year olds. We stamped our feet, and held our breaths because we weren't mature enough to look at the bigger picture, but only our pet issue. We were all upset because we couldn't find our own personal republican saviour. We overlooked the "big picture", under-estimated the effects of the MSM on the average voter, and we got spanked for it. You would think we would have learned from the Perot debacle. At this point all we cab do is stand stong and voice our opposition to the liberals. The more conservatives stand together, the better chance we will have in holding our own for the next 2 years. In the mean time, we need to watch our conservative representatives, support them when they advance a conservative agenda, and remind them of this election when they appear wobbly. The key to this is CONSTANT communication with our elected representatives.
The other thing is we have to stop blaming others, we are the ones that voted, Rush didn't cast your ballot, none of the radio show hosts did.


33 posted on 11/09/2006 11:52:04 PM PST by moneypenny (if your for the UN, you are UNAmerican)
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To: Votewaster
He's been a total party hack for three years

Hmmm... let's see... he was against Miers, he repeatedly put American laws above the GOP's stance on illegal immigration, he's been a critic of the politically correct way of fighting the war in Iraq and the kind treatment of terrorist prisoners... hmmm.

I think Rush has been less of a party hack than msDNC, CNN and cBS combined.

I think the blue-blood open border republicans are now on the defensive about something :)

No wonder they attack Rush. He predicted a loss because of the GOP's stance on open borders and their too little too late fence a week before the election.

Sounds like a guilt trip to me.

As a registered Independent, I would never listen to Rush if he was a party hack.

Nice try!

34 posted on 11/09/2006 11:52:52 PM PST by MaineVoter2002 (Election 2006 - Democrat Win, Conservative Mandate)
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To: moneypenny
"...own personal republican saviour."

I love it! Sounds like a good tag line: 'Looking for my own Personal Republican Saviour.'

35 posted on 11/10/2006 12:04:38 AM PST by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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To: IYellAtMyTV

Glad you like it, go ahead and use it.


36 posted on 11/10/2006 12:17:42 AM PST by moneypenny (if your for the UN, you are UNAmerican)
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To: TomGuy
"And the vote for them anyway because you don't have any where else to go didn't work."

Precisely! can't tell you how many freepers bought into this. I spend a lot of time on the immigration threads and so many have come forward to post about how this was no big deal....sorry, but it was and is!

As I have posted before, we legislate from the ground up and the grass roots, and not the other way around. This is not a dictatorship!

37 posted on 11/10/2006 12:17:50 AM PST by TheLion
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To: ChiMark

I am no conservative? What is a conservative these days?

I am for small government, fiscal conservatism, and individual liberty. Does that make me a conservative?

I also voted for Steve Chabot and Mike Dewine. Chabot barely won, Dewine lost. I don't blame either of them for the Republican collapse. It is not my local leaders but the national party that has lost it's way. I hope that this election gives us a chance to get back on track.


38 posted on 11/10/2006 12:23:09 AM PST by Milton Friedman (Free The People!)
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To: RussP

I am not Milton, he is my idol. I think he is the greatest person alive on the planet today.

I wish that we could get back to the policies and type of government advocated by Milton. I think that in 50 years school reform will have taken over and that Milton will be regarded as one of the greatest American thinkers in our history.

I apologize if I said something that was insenstive and off the cuff. I shouldn't do that if I want to post under this moniker. Your point is well taken.


39 posted on 11/10/2006 12:26:52 AM PST by Milton Friedman (Free The People!)
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To: moneypenny
i pray that elected officals see that americans are not going to tolerate politics as usual ...this election ,though bad for the country, will hopefully make them realize that we are sick and tired of a do nothing ,no goals, pork barrel spending,leaderless congress. regardlesss of party affiliation they will be booted out of office.
this election removed a lot of good people with the bad...
hopefuly the republican party can bring some leadership in ,close ranks and get ready to deliver what they say they will do.we had a golden oportunity to change the course of this nation and instead our leadership in the congress forgot who "brought them to the dance ".
we voters are watching and expecting our national leaders to step up to the plate and lead.if not every two years we can and will make another statement...sit up pay attention.you are being held accountable...we demand and deserve conservative leadership..no more politics as usual.
40 posted on 11/10/2006 12:29:30 AM PST by rocklizzard
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To: jim35

"Just think how happy you'll be, when you get to be REALLY mad about stuff. BTW, how's it feel to be rooting for the same thing as our enemy?"

I guess my point is that we have become our own enemy. I thought we were supposed to be against big government and for personal freedoms. We had total control of everything and popular support. And we turned out back on principles.

It makes me disgusted to think of the opportunity that we sqaundered since Newt took the House. I have lost faith that any party is going to address the problem of the size and scope of our government.

Check out David Walker sometime, we have a scary future ahead of us and our children. It isn't fair to saddle them with that debt. We were the party that was going to fix the problem. We need to admit that we failed.

I apologize for my insensitive comments. I was angry and emotional.


41 posted on 11/10/2006 12:34:39 AM PST by Milton Friedman (Free The People!)
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To: goldstategop

bump


42 posted on 11/10/2006 12:47:54 AM PST by Christian4Bush ("Today we lost; tomorrow we start again." - C4B)
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To: goldstategop

I agree, but just what do you suggest that the common man and woman do! Tell me and I will be first in line!!!!


43 posted on 11/10/2006 1:03:52 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: SpaceBar

I listen to WBAP in the night as well. Alot of these truckers and other callers just do not have the facts straight and think that the only solution to homeland security is to cut and run!!!!


44 posted on 11/10/2006 1:07:09 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: Milton Friedman

A good place to start would be for you to learn Farsi!


45 posted on 11/10/2006 1:10:57 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: Milton Friedman

"...I was angry and emotional."

Tell me about it. Who's not, except the Rats? I've never been so disappointed in my own party, both the politicians in power, and the voters who chose to let the disloyal opposition take control, as punishment for drifting too far left. It's been an ugly scene on all sides, and now the Rats are feeding on the spoils. I'm going to be angry and emotional for some time to come. If you did your duty at the polls, I can hardly find reason to criticize your feelings on the way the Republicans have been such a disappointment, since they have lost their way on a lot of very, very important issues. It's the cut-and-run conservatives who gall me so much.


46 posted on 11/10/2006 1:18:44 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: goldstategop
We may have lost an election. But don't let the Bipartisan Cut And Run Crowd stop conservatives from fighting back. Our country is at stake.

Bull crap. Bipartisanship means you sacrifice principle. The next time the pubbies want my vote, they will practice conservatism for two years at a clip, not speak about it for 2 weeks. Message sent. We'll see if the message was received.

47 posted on 11/10/2006 1:36:06 AM PST by Go Gordon (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet its hard to pronounce)
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To: Milton Friedman

Dewine lost. I don't blame either of them for the Republican collapse.

Dewine lost a lot of conservatives when he supported the Dems over using the nuclear option to end an unconstitutional practice. If I were in Ohio, I would have voted for him but he didn't support either the US Constitution or the party.


48 posted on 11/10/2006 1:54:16 AM PST by freedomfiter2
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To: Jackson Brown
Our Country was at stake TUESDAY, and too many stayed home!!!

You'd better hope they did, because if conservatives voted and the Republicans still lost, they're going to write us off as being too few to matter.

On another matter: if Rush was shilling (his word) for the Republicans then, is he shilling for somebody else now? How can we tell, either way?

49 posted on 11/10/2006 3:15:39 AM PST by Grut
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To: goldstategop

Too late for the apology Melanie. You wink at their misdeeds. You didn't defend your core beliefs. You are no better than they.


50 posted on 11/10/2006 3:26:30 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (HOOAH! It's an Army thing.)
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