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Saginaw man TASERed at City Council meeting[Michigan]
SAGINAW (WJRT) ^ | 07 Nov 2006 | Terry Camp

Posted on 11/10/2006 11:48:51 PM PST by FLOutdoorsman

Man refused to remove hat, struggled with police

Saginaw's City Council meeting featured a shocking incident Monday night. A Saginaw Valley State University student was TASERed after he became unruly after being asked to take off his baseball cap.

There is a new rule at Saginaw City Council meetings. Men are required to take their hats off. Evidently, they are pretty serious about this new rule.

The man was wearing a Los Angeles Dodgers hat. Officer Doug Stacer of the Saginaw Police Department asked him to remove the hat. The man raised his voice and did not remove the hat.

As the officer tried to grab the hat and then tried to grab the man, the man with the hat tried to kick Saginaw Police Chief Gerald Cliff, who was coming to help out.

At that point, Stacer TASERed the man, which sends 50,000 volts into a person's body. Cliff and Stacer got help from Saginaw County Sheriff Charles Brown hauling the man off to jail.

A few people stood up and watched the event; the meeting resumed a short time later.

The man faces possible charges of alarming and harassing conduct -- a misdemeanor -- and assaulting a police officer. That's a felony. He was not arraigned Tuesday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: meeting; michigan; police; taser
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To: gruntSGT

to heavily= too heavily


21 posted on 11/11/2006 3:01:02 AM PST by gruntSGT (Can anyone help me tell me the difference between Lindsey Graham and John Kerry?)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

The rule is stupid to begin with. Doesn't Saginaw have anything more important to deal with? Is there no REAL crime for the donut eaters to worry about like maybe murders, robbery, assaults etc?
Yeah the ked is a moron but does the cop have ANY right to try to take the morons cap?


22 posted on 11/11/2006 3:06:24 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: gruntSGT
Better yet...outlaw the use of the tazer, since cops have not demonstrated the ability to use them responsibly.

You make a valid point.
23 posted on 11/11/2006 3:33:05 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: MonroeDNA

My thoughts exactly. No manners, and if asked to act appropriately, the response is predictable.


24 posted on 11/11/2006 3:38:28 AM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: MonroeDNA

I think he got supersized on his dose of reality. They should give everybody tasers. So many in need, so few volts.

(kidding... kind of)


25 posted on 11/11/2006 3:43:38 AM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: sine_nomine
........... one more and you win the prize.

;-)

26 posted on 11/11/2006 3:58:15 AM PST by beyond the sea ( Now that Nancy Pelosi Galore is in charge, it's never too late to start drinking.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Shades of Stalin; welcome to Amerika!


27 posted on 11/11/2006 3:58:33 AM PST by jwatzzzzz (jwatzzzzz)
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To: beyond the sea

Thanks.


28 posted on 11/11/2006 4:01:05 AM PST by sine_nomine (No more RINO presidents. We need another Reagan.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Oh no! They've created a potential terrorist.


29 posted on 11/11/2006 4:13:17 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Oh no! They've created a potential terrorist.


30 posted on 11/11/2006 4:13:19 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
The man was wearing a Los Angeles Dodgers hat

Well, that explains everything.........

31 posted on 11/11/2006 4:19:47 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: FLOutdoorsman
I'll bet he appears in court, hat in hand.

I have a vision ala Mommie Dearest.... No ballcaps, ever !

32 posted on 11/11/2006 4:25:22 AM PST by csvset (Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil & inhumane)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Anyone remember the first year of the Sopranos when Tony told the punk in the restaurant to remove his hat.

My fav scene ever.


33 posted on 11/11/2006 4:35:06 AM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: traviskicks
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34 posted on 11/11/2006 4:37:22 AM PST by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
Oh no! They've created a potential terrorist.

More likely an actual litigant. And properly so, I think; a misuse of government power all the way, unless there's something the report doesn't tell us.

35 posted on 11/11/2006 4:44:52 AM PST by Grut
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Who would want to live in Michigan?


36 posted on 11/11/2006 4:53:50 AM PST by D.P.Roberts
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To: FLOutdoorsman
So It took an officer, the police chief and then an additional sherriffs deputy & a Tazer gun to remove one guy with a ball cap and an attitude?

God help them if someones grandmother jay- walks they'll probably have to call out the national guard.

I'm not that old ( 40 ) I can remember a time when a police officer would have gently tapped his night stick in his hand and stared the punk down, then removed him. Now everyone of these cops thinks he's on a t.v. show and has 50 special forces gadgets strapped to his out of shape ass. They don't possess the self confidence judgement and determination of the past, instead they reach for the weapon and use it without any descretion, then brag about it as if they saved the world.

37 posted on 11/11/2006 4:57:07 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and Apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Joe Boucher
Yes, Saginaw does have bigger problems, and Saginaw's city council is one of them.

They also have drive-by shootings, increasing gang violence, and a real big bad entrenched Democrat voter base. The Mayor and most of the city council are Democrats, Madam Mayor is also a woman of color and she apparently asked this young man to remove his hat. I guess his mama never taught him to remove his hat in the presence of a lady.

I heard this report on the radio but no where can I find any information on the young man in question - I wonder if he was white?

The sheriff who was there and helped with the situation is a Democrat and also worked against CCW becoming the law in this state.

38 posted on 11/11/2006 5:13:57 AM PST by Mrs. P (I am most seriously displeased. - Lady Catherine de Bourg)
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To: gruntSGT
"Better yet...outlaw the use of the tazer, since cops have not demonstrated the ability to use them responsibly."

What the fudgesicle…?

We might as well outlaw pistols too. SOME cops have also – not demonstrated the ability to use them responsibly. Plus cars, and Billy Clubs, and handcuffs and…

39 posted on 11/11/2006 5:17:21 AM PST by Dacus943
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To: gruntSGT

...and Pepper Spay, and Police Dogs, and Tear Gas, and Physical Restraints, and Traffic Tickets, and Warrants, and my favorite - the Cops that direct traffic for funerals and weddings. Talk about demonsratable inability to provide a smooth flow of traffic. Oh… and speed traps, and DWI tests…


40 posted on 11/11/2006 5:26:49 AM PST by Dacus943
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