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How Ted Haggard delivered control to the Democrats
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 11/11/06 | By Charles McVety

Posted on 11/11/2006 12:38:04 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: MeanFreePath

I agree with you. I'm not buying this as a reason or at least as a major reason for the defeat on Tuesday. Although, on our local radio I have heard Evangelical environmental commercials. I wonder if they were produced by Haggard?


22 posted on 11/11/2006 12:58:49 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: JohnHuang2
I think GOOGLE/YOUTUBE delivered big-time.
23 posted on 11/11/2006 12:58:59 AM PST by Pro-Bush (hater)
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To: DarthVader
Ted Haggard's problems decribed in this article had no effect on this election whatsoever.

Every little bit hurts, but I think that the point of the article is that Haggard's attacks om parts of the GOP agenda is the reason while evangelical support of the GOP went down.

24 posted on 11/11/2006 1:03:38 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I went down in 1964 for Barry Goldwater with all flags flying! This is just a blip!)
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To: DarthVader

I believe that Ted Haggard's push to change the direction of the Evangelical Movement did have some effect. He turned some to a new set of beliefs that are more compatible with the Democrats. His failures as a leader might have effected some votes, but I sort of doubt it. Christians of many ilks recognize that the sin of one man is the sin of one man. If steps are taken, then the one bad apple will not spoil the basket.

I don't know how much of the Evangelical Movement he effected. But with margins as narrow as they were, even a small effect across the country could have been the difference.

In 1992, George Bush 41 turned off the Republicans by trying to get along with the Democrats. He lost to Clinton. In 1996, there were stories that got circulated about Dole that he was pro-abortion. I heard these stories here in Tennessee and know people that did not vote because they figured both men were bad. This included Catholics and Evangelicals.

What is the moral of my bit of thinking? The Republicans need to choose candidates that have a strong moral backbone and act like Republicans. Conservatives and Evangelicals are both looking for someone they feel they can trust.


25 posted on 11/11/2006 1:09:21 AM PST by Ingtar (Prensa dos para el ingles)
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To: MeanFreePath

Ditto.


26 posted on 11/11/2006 1:09:43 AM PST by sine_nomine (No more RINO presidents. We need another Reagan.)
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To: DarthVader
Ted Haggard's problems decribed in this article had no effect on this election whatsoever.

Have you looked at the exit poll responses?

27 posted on 11/11/2006 1:10:04 AM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Ingtar

Reagan went out of his way to support the unborn. I need not mention his success. At the time I gasped that anyone would be so bold because I found everyone ducking the issue, including and especially Lutherans.


28 posted on 11/11/2006 1:11:59 AM PST by sine_nomine (No more RINO presidents. We need another Reagan.)
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To: JohnHuang2

"hiring a homosexual prostitute and buying crystal methamphetamine"

That's what did him (and anyone he was associated with) in, not his talking about the weather.


29 posted on 11/11/2006 1:12:29 AM PST by voteconstitutionparty
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To: unspun

Many of those evangelicals are part of the Pysbertarian church, which has a track record of being ultra liberal.


30 posted on 11/11/2006 1:15:14 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90
Well, there are numerous kinds of Presbyterians, too.
31 posted on 11/11/2006 1:19:13 AM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: FreedomCalls

Hate to sound like a "me too", but I am right in the middle of the Bible Belt and a life long Evangelical.

Never heard of this pervert, and if I had it would not have changed my vote one iota!


32 posted on 11/11/2006 1:22:03 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Alright by me.


33 posted on 11/11/2006 1:23:04 AM PST by MonroeDNA (Libertarians are more conservative than pubbies. Strictest interpretation of the constitution,)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Baptist are definitely Evangelicals.
34 posted on 11/11/2006 1:24:27 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: Thunder90

I doubt that these churches were really Evangelicals in the true sense of the word!!!


35 posted on 11/11/2006 1:25:46 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: JohnHuang2

I never heard of Haggerd before, but I had heard the commercials for Evangelicals Against Climate Change.

Actually I thought it must be Soros and Moveon sowing confusion by picking a religious sounding name for another front group.

Now that I know the founder is a meth head, I can see where he got his strange theology. Hoo boy.


36 posted on 11/11/2006 1:31:28 AM PST by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: unspun

Exactly! My neighbor is a staff member at the local Presbyterian church and is very conservative.


37 posted on 11/11/2006 1:31:44 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla; Echo Talon
As a papist it is my understanding that Baptists are fundamentalists and evangelicals are NOT fundamentalists.

Baptists - even the subset of Southern Baptists - cover a lot of theological ground.

Southern Baptists are not members of the NAE, although some smaller Baptist groups are. NAE members run from Pentacostal to Reformed to Wesleyan; the Salvation Army is even a member. It tends to include groups which want to be part of an ecumenical group but which don't want to associate with the liberal mainline denominations.

38 posted on 11/11/2006 1:35:28 AM PST by PAR35
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To: MonroeDNA
Even more funny is a self proclaiming lunatic calling Evangelical Christians moron's.
39 posted on 11/11/2006 1:36:09 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: durasell

And in will come the anti-Christ, but only for a short period of time.


40 posted on 11/11/2006 1:36:17 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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