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ATF Raid Nets Militia Man, Weapons Rap
Times Record ^ | 11/10/06 | Trish Mehaffey

Posted on 11/11/2006 7:29:21 AM PST by Firefigher NC

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To: Firefigher NC
The closer a government approaches tyranny, the less tolerant it is of the tools to oppose it.

21 posted on 11/11/2006 8:13:29 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Firefigher NC

I was wondering how long it would take to go from killing terrorists overseas (that the Libs abhor) to killing Americans here at home (which the Libs delight in-see Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc). Guess it won't take long at all...


22 posted on 11/11/2006 8:28:19 AM PST by wastoute
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To: BenLurkin
"Is there much threat to the public when the weapons "are stored in the Washington County militia’s concrete and steel vault"?"

Plus they're stamped with the word “non-commercial". How much safer can you get?

23 posted on 11/11/2006 8:29:06 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Anti-Bubba182

2nd that.

I rented one at a range during a recent Las Vegas trip, and while fun, it darn sure wasn't reliable. Though I expect that could be fixed, somewhat, with some appropriate parts.

And you're right, these guys clearly were asking for it.


24 posted on 11/11/2006 8:37:34 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: 100-Fold_Return

And yet, the BATF is a function of the executive branch, which was unchanged by the election. You don't suppose.... nah.


25 posted on 11/11/2006 8:45:08 AM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: Firefigher NC
jackbooted fascists at it again
26 posted on 11/11/2006 9:10:42 AM PST by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: William Terrell

If this runs true to form, by the time it's all over he'll also be accused (and convicted) of everything from jay-walking to (and including) child molesting. From the comments published in the local paper, it appears the locals are more pissed off at the feds than they are at him. Since Uncle Sugar doesn't like that the spin cycle will go to full speed and he'll suddenly have child porn on his hard-drive, be HIV positive and have the cell-phone number of Osama Bin Laden.
There were some societies that punished male heretics by castrating them so they couldn't reproduce. Our government has a variation on that theme that works just as well. Remember how David Koresh was supposed to be molesting children? Once that rumor saw the light of day any talk of sending him help quickly died out. A few years back a patriot in Michigan (I think) was accused of making some sort of sexual comment to a girl. The police drove him into his home, then set it on fire. He escaped somehow but was later shot to death a few miles away. Again, since he was "a pervert" there was no outcry loud enough to need answering.
So prepare yourselves folks. If you ever become a thorn in the side of Big Brother, you can expect to become a sex maniac too.


27 posted on 11/11/2006 9:14:17 AM PST by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Based on the history the ATF has, I choose to withhold judgment. The ATF is well known for stomping on American rights without fear of being held accountable.
This agency should be banished forever in my opinion.
I choose not to break the law, but in my opinion, every American has the right to possess any firearm he chooses if he/she uses them in a responsible manner.
For those who choose, pick that idea apart all you want, but the persons abusing them need punished, not the other 99.999% of us who have had their rights taken away in the name of liberalism and arms control.


28 posted on 11/11/2006 9:21:08 AM PST by FunkyZero
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To: Firefigher NC

Yeah but funding for the BATFE has increased during the Bush administration so you can thank both parties for that.

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Not just funding, the size increased too. Bush couldn't be bothered hiring all the Border Patrol Agents Congress mandated but he sure saw to it that the BATFE got more thugs.

When Clinton was in office Republicans wanted to get rid of the BATF. Once Bush got in they wouldn't fight a president in their own party to do it.


29 posted on 11/11/2006 9:27:43 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: Firefigher NC; y'all
Militia of Washington County, Arkansas

Address:http://www.arkansasmilitia.com

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Appears to me that they intend to challenge the NFA of '34 in court, - on the constitutional grounds that an 'unorganized' militia can possess full auto weapons as per the 2nd.

Incredibly enough, some FReepers think this is crazy.. To me it's crazy to believe the '34 'act' is constitutional.
30 posted on 11/11/2006 9:51:19 AM PST by tpaine
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To: BenLurkin; y'all
Is there much threat to the public when the weapons "are stored in the Washington County militia's concrete and steel vault"?

That point will be at issue in court, no doubt.
There is no doubt of course, that a 'well regulated' militia can keep arms; -- or there should be no doubt.

You never know tho in FReeperland, as many of our loudest mouths claim that fed, state or local governments can prohibit any arms they choose.

31 posted on 11/11/2006 10:02:30 AM PST by tpaine
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To: Firefigher NC

There is something fishy to this story, hes not a "white separatist" nor did he commit suicide by inferno...


32 posted on 11/11/2006 10:22:19 AM PST by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: Firefigher NC
"A machine gun that can fire 550 rounds a minute "

OMG!!!!! That's such a high rate of fire!!!!

33 posted on 11/11/2006 10:24:13 AM PST by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: Joe Brower

Be Ever Vigilant!


34 posted on 11/11/2006 11:27:16 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Firefigher NC
Yep...thank the Republicrats. I can't believe that after all this time, people still have the "Pubbies good, Rats bad" or "Rats good, Pubbies bad" mindset. It's all one big, all-powerful DC Party, bent on furthering their own ambitions at the expense of ours. Good grief...Bush couldn't have helped the Rats any more than he has if he WERE one!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

35 posted on 11/11/2006 1:41:17 PM PST by wku man (Breathe...Relax...Aim...Squeeze...Smile!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
They brought a lot of trouble on themselves screwing around with sten guns

Yeh, "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand and so open to "interpretation.

In a Pigs Eye

Wouldn't the resources be better utilized going after Jihadies who want to kill us all? Nah, they might shoot back.

36 posted on 11/11/2006 1:47:43 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Firefigher NC
Yeah but funding for the BATFE has increased during the Bush administration so you can thank both parties for that.

They are supposed to be using the money to go after terrorists, which this guy most assuredly is not.

37 posted on 11/11/2006 1:50:09 PM PST by El Gato
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To: tpaine
Incredibly enough, some FReepers think this is crazy..

Only crazy thing is thinking the Supreme Court might actually rule based on the simple words of the Constitution, and of the people who wrote and ratified it.

Still, the Court isn't going to get any better any time soon than it is right now, given events of last Tuesday.

38 posted on 11/11/2006 1:53:08 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Joe Brower
The investigation was conducted under Project Safe Neighborhoods, the U.S. Department of Justice initiative that combines federal, state and local resources to combat violent gun crime.

What was the violent crime?

39 posted on 11/11/2006 2:04:21 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Sender
I agree with the premise that ATF and federal law should not be infringing on the 2A, but if you brag on TV about building machine guns, the outcome is predictable.

Do you have a link on that?

40 posted on 11/11/2006 2:07:48 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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