Landscapers Cause Furor by Shunning Gay Clients

Times Daily [NW Alabama] ^ | Nov 10, 2006

[GATOR NAVY]

That's too funny. I guess it's more discreet than changing their names to "Pitcher" and "Catcher".

[Wuli]

As far as I am concerned it should only be government that cannot discriminate, anyway.

It is the government that should not be able to make distinctions between different free citizens, in law, regulation or government services.

But free citizens should be able to make distinctions that fit their values and beliefs, in their free associations with each other.

If a "heterosexual" company does not want to do work for a "homosexual" individual or company, or if a "homosexual" company does not want to do work for a "heterosexual" individual or company, I see no problem in a truly free society.

It is the government that must treat them the same in how the government regulates them, not in what the government commands they do or not do with each other.

Tolerance and non-discrimination are not the same concepts as acceptance. The law should expect tolerance in a multi-cultural society, but it should not be able to command acceptance. Tolerance mostly means not going out and taking direct action against, as opposed to directly taking action for. Tolerance does not require acceptance of others values, it does not require a change in your values. Tolerance only predicates a certain level of respect for the freedom of others to NOT share your values, without you or others requiring that ones own values be accepted. Tolerance does not therefore require that you suppress your values in who you choose to freely associate with. Tolerance only requires that you respect that same freedom for others.

[Alas Babylon!]

Exactly! The gays could challenge the "Lawn Guy" with their own landscapping company, called, the "Lawn Gay".

[Jorge]

This seems a little like a taco stand refusing to serve mexicans.

....the best post in the thread.

[Jorge]

“We’re sinners, Todd and I,” Mrs. Farber said. But she added: “My husband made a personal choice, according to something he felt in his heart. It was never a judgmental choice or a hating choice or even a choice that said, ‘Well, we’re better than them.

I don't get this at all.

How is it not making a judgment when you say you won't serve homosexuals?

They are of course free to do business with whom they choose, but at least be honest about it.

“We’re sinners, Todd and I,”

Perhaps restaurants and housing should refuse to cater to them for being sinners.

What next.

[ArmstedFragg]

Given the folks complaining, I'm not sure 'furor' is the right word.

Maybe "hissy fit".

[ViLaLuz]

The homosexual thought he was calling "Lawn Gay."

[little jeremiah]

There have been more than a few articles about these small business owners. Many people have commented that they should have just said they were busy, or some other excuse. But whether you agree or disagree with how they handled it, they are standing up for freedom of association based on freedom of religion.

It's going to come to a head soon, and you will see another example in the next article I ping out. Homosexuality is either natural, normal and moral and anyone opposed to promoting it is immoral and sick, or vice versa. The homosexual rights promoters themselves are forcing this.

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[little jeremiah]

Even homosexuals themselves have admitted that they lied when they claimed 10% of the population is homosexual. They know it isn't, and all studies done for years show it at between 1 1/2 to 2 1/2%.

[tlb]

For the anti landscaper view, here is a gay website thread pushing for the landscapers to be punished.

http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/forum/thread/gossip/3959531/page-1.html

[philetus]

. “Don’t they realize they are probably doing business with homosexuals every day? They should check out their pharmacist, hair dresser, bank teller, the nurse at their doctor’s office, the waiter at their favorite restaurant and the church secretary.”

If the pharmacist, hair dresser, bank teller, the nurse at their doctor’s office, the waiter at their favorite restaurant and the church secretary. started the conversation with "I'm a HOMO",
the Farbers probably wouldn't do biz with them.

[dcnd9]

FREEP THIS POLL

Landscaper Under Fire for Refusing to Work for Gays
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/landscaper-under-fire-for-refusing-to/20061109231409990006?ncid=NWS00010000000001

[dcnd9]

Also FREEP THIS POLL


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15646006/?displaymode=1006

[CoolPapaBoze]

This seems a little like a taco stand refusing to serve mexicans.

I think you misunderstood, they were land scapers, not man-scapers.

[CoolPapaBoze]

Tolerance does not require acceptance of others values, it does not require a change in your values. Tolerance only predicates a certain level of respect for the freedom of others to NOT share your values, without you or others requiring that ones own values be accepted. Tolerance does not therefore require that you suppress your values in who you choose to freely associate with. Tolerance only requires that you respect that same freedom for others.

Well said and have no doubt this would get any garden variety leftist frothing at the mouth within seconds of reading it. Leftists demand that we accept their values, the homosexual lifestyle is just a prominient example, but can you imagine making the counter argument that they should accept the values of Evangelical Christians? Their heads would explode from the hypocrisy.

[upchuck]

Thanks for the polls. I normally don't vote in these as they are just throwaway.

But in this case I did. And I'm happy to see we're winning both. AOL 51/49, PMSNBC 65/35.

[dfwgator]

I figured their names would be "Neal" and "Bob."

[missthethunder]

bump

[eleni121]

I freeped it good!

65% for the rights not to hire people who practice sodomy.

It should be 100%