WHY WE LOST

Vanity | November 12 2006 | Nathanbedford

[nathanbedford]

WHY WE LOST

We have three important questions to answer: 1) What happened? 2) Why did it happen? 3) What do we do now?

1) What happened?

The Republican Party in general and George W. Bush in particular sustained a stinging rebuke from the American electorate. The Republicans lost control of the house and of the Senate. The agenda moves to the Democrats. The power of the purse moves to the Democrats. The power of the subpoena moves to the Democrats. The power to impeach moves to the Democrats. The power to affect foreign policy by, for example, defunding the war moves to the Democrats. The power to appoint conservative judges has been greatly compromised as has been the power to confirm appointments such as ambassador to the United Nations and Secretary of Defense.

The Republican Party has ruptured the bond that held it to the majority of the people of the United States since 1994. When the polls say that the people trust the Democrats more than Republicans on taxes, it means, as Newt Gingrich has said, they fired us because they don't trust us. It is as simple as that, the party has lost the trust of the people.

The Democrat party is extending its tentacles into the red states and the Republican Party is in grave danger of becoming a sectional party with an ever declining census and a bunker mentality.

2) Why did it happen?

[michigander]

We have been telling you it every day for years.

Yep, you sure did...

He wants Hillary to win! He wants Pelosi as speaker! He wants to turn it over to the Dems! I can't believe he said that! I've known he was a BircherBuchananiteDUTrollDemInfiltratorMobyStormfronter all along! Are you kidding me! Reagan hardly ever balanced the budget! Reagan didn't control the border! Reagan gave amnesty to millions of illegal aliens too! You can bet Hillary won't control the borders or balance the budget!! You can bet Pelosi won't control the borders or balance the budget! We're at war! He's supporting the terrorists!! When campaigning, President Bush never said that he wanted absolute control of the border! He's unappeasable! What a malcontent!! He's a racistxenophobantihispanicnazibigot who hates Mexicans!!! He's a secret member of Stormfront!!! He wants to turn it all over to the Democrats!!!!!! He's never been a real conservative!!! He hates Bush!! He wouldn't say any of this if he wasn't a Bush basher!!! He hates Republicans too!!! What does he want, for everyone to vote third party!!?!! Shut up, Go away!!! We don't need your support anyway!! We don't need the votes of the so-called "conservatives" that you're talking about because they're just a bunch of moronic, right-wing, extremist, fringe whacko, malcontent, unappeasable, fake conservative, democrat loving, stupid hicks who want Hillary for President and Pelosi for speaker!!! They probably never voted for Republicans in the first place! They're just Democrats trying to ruin our chances! The polls are lying!!! Look at their sign up date, anything after mine is suspect. The site has been infiltrated by BircherBuchananiteDUTrollDemInfiltratorMobyStormfronterracistxenophobantihispanicnazibigots and all they do is whine and bitchbithchbitchbitchbitch all the time.

I can't imagine why y'all were unable to sway them to see the light.

[hoosierham]

Calling the citizens fools will not win them over.

[OldPossum]

Re your post 23, I agree that that is a major component of the problem.

Until the American people get off their dead a--es and start thinking about politics instead of their damn football games. this country will continue to go downhill.

One of these days once we are in the clutches of Sharia law with no escape, perhaps they may be regretful, but not until then. Not until then.

Dummies.

[Positive]

You call this a vanity? I call it an XtremeVanity...

The standard length of an opinion column in a newspaper is 750 words...your vanity is 4887 words.

If you'd posted a synopsis of your vanity and a link to the full document, I may have read it...

[hellinahandcart]

review

[woodbutcher]

Not good logic.

If it does not matter what our elected officials think about war, because war is inevitable, then neither does it matter what they think about the sky falling, for the outcome of that is also inevitable.

So I ask you, had their not been a Neville Chamberlain and a Hitler at the same time/space in history, would world history not have been different? Had there been a Churchill or a Thatcher, would there have been a different outcome?

Had Khrushchev not blinked over the Cuban missiles, the world would have been the same?

I feel that we are at a similar point in time. Who we have as President and who we have leading our Congress will have the same effect on our lives as whether England had Chamberlain or a Thatcher and Germany had a Hitler or a Merkle.

As for Kyoto, it is a joke. It might be signed and agreed to, which I doubt, but nothing will happen.

The reason is that it is not possible.

I read a report on what Canada will have to do to meet its obligations under the Kyoto agreement and essentially they would have to park every car and every truck and close every one of their factories.

It is total nonsense.

What is really behind it is not to keep the sky from falling, but to bring more countries under one world government. The next step would be to have the world court enforce it.

My reading of the Constitution does not find any reference to the world court.

In each of the events you mention, the events were dramatically influenced by the people in power. The lesson you may well learn on that, and I hope not, is that the period of nuke dangers of the past to which you refer, involved nations and persons who did not believe that they were going to spend eternity caressed by 72 virgins and whose ambition it was to remove that description from the ladies resumes. JFK was doing pretty well in this world with Marilyn Monroe and several others. Khrushchev certainly was not suicidal either for whatever reason.

[GarySpFc]

"It was Bush's immigration policy which drove many conservatives away from the voting booths."

Now, in cooperation with the Dems, it will likely become the law of the land.

I fully agree. That said, I know Senator Brownback, and I warned his office over one year ago this was going to cost the Republicans dearly in the election. At that time his aide told me the Republicans would lose the election.

[Liberty Wins]

Yes, the voters are lazy and uninformed, but history is a wonderful teacher.

You all know the story of the London blitz. In the 30's as war clouds were looming over Europe a large number of students at Cambridge signed a pledge not to fight for their country if England went to war. But in 1940 these same young men flocked to join the RAF to fight the Luftwaffe.

In 1940 Roosevelt campaigned on a keep-us-out-of-the-war platform which apparently most Americans agreed with. But when the Japs attacked Pearl Harbor in 1941, you only heard two questions -- where the heck is Pearl Harbor and 2) where do I go to join up?

Sixty-five years later hardly anybody remembers Pearl Harbor. But as soon as New York or Los Angeles is taken out, our ignorant and apathetic voters will quickly become informed.

[Prodigal Son]

then neither does it matter what they think about the sky falling, for the outcome of that is also inevitable.

Oh, it matters a lot. American might (whether it be cultural, economic or military) is inextricably tied to science and progress. You take science out of the equation and America is mighty no more. What you see being played out concerning climate change is the undermining of science itself. Without proper science we will have no new weapons to pound our enemies with.

Think about it.

There will be a massive show-down in the future between policymakers and the two opposing factions of scientists in the global warming debate. The outcome of this show-down will have massive long reaching consequences- not just localized effects. And it's not just an American concern. If the rest of the world loses its mind over the climate change scare-mongering it will have effects that Americans will be really concerned about. The days when a nation was an autonomous entity going its on way in the world were over a long time ago. There is no more 'let the world go to hell in a handbasket and we'll just sit here and laugh'. The world is too interconnected now.

The war in the Middle East will be fought one way or the other. We are in that for a long time democrat or republican president is no matter. There are big forces that dictate American policy in the region (energy being one important factor obviously). Politicians have very few choices to make when it gets right down to it. We cannot simply withdraw. No matter how good it sounds on the campaign trail, no democratic president will be able to change course there. Change tactics maybe but the strategy has been set by the circumstances.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion and I do not want to change your mind. If you want to get worked up about this- go right ahead. I won't be.

[Fresh Wind]

I didn't dispute your main point (with which I totally agree), but only your supporting statement which was factually inaccurate.

[tennmountainman]

"Another thing: Its time for a truly conservative party. The GOP was always a party of the elite and thier slaves. The GOP was never truly conservative."

It was during the Reagan years. That when conservative was conservative.

[Miss Didi]

Good point, Jim. I lived in NYC in the 80's and it was one scary place...crime was rampant, you didn't take subways after dark. The homeless were everywhere, you literally stepped over bodies in the train stations. Rudy may be weak on some issues, but he is one tough guy who cleaned up this city.

As to why we lost, as Rush pointed out--the Repubs leaned left and the Dems went right. We need to get back to Conservatism and hopefully this election will spark the movement again.

[Grateful One]

"What's on TV tonight?"......................

Sums it up perfectly for me.

[nathanbedford]

Awesome read!

Thank you.

[nathanbedford]

Thanks for the succinct analysis and a great read.

Thank you very much.

[rwfromkansas]

We will never win again if we forget the mushy middle.

[nathanbedford]

The standard length of an opinion column in a newspaper is 750 words...your vanity is 4887 words.

As the King said to Mozart, "your music has...too many notes. Yes, that's it, too many notes."

[nathanbedford]

So quit writing all these useless lectures and vanities 100%ers at people WHO told you so. Quit blaming everyone else. The people with your 100% or nothing dogmas caused us to lose Tuesday and NO ONE else.

Jonnie, we just had an election that decided all that and the outcome is not my fault.

It is over except the cosmetics. I wish it were otherwise.

[dforest]

Wahhhhh, no they are not. I believe the Democrats take care of their elites, quite well, why they even look the other way when the integrity of one of their elites is in question. I think you are very revealing. The Dems only provide for some that want no better than what government is willing to give them. A blanket statment like the one you made is ridiculous.

[MNJohnnie]

Same old same old. After throwing their temper tantrum in 1992 the Perotists ran around desperate for scapegoats to blame for what THEY did. Actually take the time ONCE to LEARN the facts on Iraq.