Posted on 11/13/2006 12:54:11 AM PST by des
anyone watching C-Span tonight? (from 11/03/06) earth to rove....listen to Rudy
I don't know about Arnold delivering CA to a Republican candidate, but the line about Rudy delivering NY is perfectly accurate. If the party nominates Rudy, the electoral "game" is over - a Republican who takes NY state would really have to eff things up elsewhere to lose the election. This makes him an exceedingly dangerous candidate for the Dems, because not only will they likely lose NY state, they'll have to spend money there too.
Guns. Abortion. Gay Rights and promotion. Gay marriage. Big government projects. But he is pretty good on crime amelioration.
Well, whoop de do! So what?
Pick a Liebral.
Gimme a break. The pubbies got decimated in the last election for their leftward shift.
The liberals would go nuts trying to figure out which liberal to vote for, but they base would be completely disenfranchised.
To give Rudy credit, what he did in New York worked for New York. Not many mountain lions wandering around New York City. More people live in one building there than in my whole county. This isn't New York, folks. There is an awful lot of flyover country between the East Coast and the Left coast, and we are not buying in on New York solutions to problems we don't even have.
So, ENOUGH! I am not going to contribute one dime to a liberal Republican candidate for president. Not a red cent. As for voting, I am not voting to support stripping me of my firearms. (That would be pretty dumb, ya think?)
I am not voting to murder babies in the womb, partially or otherwise.
As an American and as a Christian, I cannot give tacit approval to either.
I voted the party ticket last time, but if the Republican party insists on being stuck on stupid, I, and a lot more like me won't be voting Republican.
Rudy's very popular in NJ as well and could put that state back into play as well. Everyone from the tri-state area who saw the transformation of NYC knows what kind of guy he is.
A Republican candidate who moves to the left (or who, like Giuliani, is already to the left of center) undoubtedly picks up votes from so-called moderates and "centrists."
But that doesn't fully solve the problem. Such a candidate also loses support on the right. Conservatives simply stay home on election day.
The only way "moderation" works as a strategy for a Republican candidate is if he picks up more actual election day support from the left-of-center and so-called moderate voters than he loses on the right. I believe the most recent election shows that such candidates lose more votes than they gain.
Pit a "moderate" Democrat against a "moderate" Republican for president and who are the "moderates" and the left going to pick? They'll pick the Democrat, the real deal, every time.
Now, someone please list for me all of Giuliani's supposed conservative virtues. Can ANYONE come up with more than two and back them up with evidence that he really believes them? Second Amendment? Taxes? Spending? Affirmative action? Culture of death (abortion, euthanasia etc)? SCOTUS Justices? Hate crimes?
Giuliani is NOT centrist unless you are putting the centr somewhere near Mrs. Pelosi. His ability to handle crime and to make a good presence at WTC does not put him in the center. And his scandal-ridden life will be the primary focus of MSM news once he is a contender. I can't see Mr. Gingrich make it through the MSM either due to his demonstrated social/moral dysfunctionality and I pretty much like Newt.
The best Republican candidate is the one who best fits the model of Ronald Reagan not merely in substance but in temperament. Hillary wouldn't have a prayer against such a candidate. Her personality is drab, dry, hectoring, preachy, humorless, and abrasive.
Put someone up against her who is sunny, cheerful, optimistic, articulate, and engaging and she will come off like the wicked witch of east by comparison. She will lose.
Rudy is the only currently visible Republican candidate that I think would guarantee a win for Mrs. Clinton. However much some people like him for his strength and determination and however much some people think that people with reservations against Rudy are just wrongheaded, the high probability is that Conservative Christians will not vote for him in sufficient numbers to make his total even respectably close. Rudy will be an occasion for voter lethargy.
The best Republican candidate is the one who best fits the model of Ronald Reagan not merely in substance but in temperament. Hillary wouldn't have a prayer against such a candidate. Her personality is drab, dry, hectoring, preachy, humorless, and abrasive.
Put someone up against her who is sunny, cheerful, optimistic, articulate, and engaging and she will come off like the wicked witch of the east by comparison. She will lose.
True, but unlike many politicos he seems to be the sort who will put the good of the country and the will of the people (in that order) ahead of his personal feelings.
You are expecting Tancredo to fill the Ross Perot "spoiler" role that gave us Slick Willie?
What's your evidence of that?
Smokin' Joe - "I am not voting to murder babies in the womb, partially or otherwise."
I agree Joe....
No one who is pro abortion will ever get my vote.
And Bush is pro-life? Your Federal government has given $1.37 BILLION to Planned Parenthood since Bush took office, and he has not proposed to cut a SINGLE PENNY from this amount.
Pro-life my ass.
I hereby dub the die-hard Rudy supporters, Rudyroids. I't like Bushbots, but different...
Up until 09.11, the New York press (except for the NY Post and the Sun) despised Rudy G. for many reasons, including his "tell it like it is" brashness, and his quality of life campaign that offended beggers, squeegie men, turnstyle jumpers, the homeless, the chronically unemployed, and the welfare kings and queens. Rudy G. also made tough budget decisions that cut wasteful and ineffective social programs, and unlike Mayor David Dinkins, who was the poster child of the left, he actually made a visible difference and left NYC in much better shape than when he took the helm.
Give me a break. I am from Ohio. Rudy will lose the evangelical vote. The GOP can NOT win without that. And even if they did, by compromising our principles we end up with, well, a bunch of democrats in office like we did this time. I would NEVER vote for Rudy for President. Ever. Get off your high horse. Ideological purity is what we need to push for. It was compromise that got us where we are today.
You abortion and pro gun people crack me up...don't you realize that unless we win this WOT, abortion and gun rights will not be an issue...BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO ABORTION AND NO GUNS and...NO RIGHTS. We have to win this WOT, everything else is secondary. I want the person who has the toughest approach towards the WOT and not someone who just talks, somebody who DOES. I want a person who stands up to the opposition like a man...the only person who fits that bill ... right now ... is Rudy.
Gun grabbing, pro-homosexual, pro-abortion candidates don't get my vote, regardless of the ticket they run on. End of discussion.
Want to win the war on terror? Ask Rudy his opinion about building a war on the southern border.
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