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Blair - we must work with 'Axis of Evil' states
The Times of London ^ | 9/13/2006 | Philip Wester and Tom Baldwin

Posted on 11/14/2006 6:06:55 AM PST by Rutles4Ever

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I know this was posted yesterday, but that was sourced from the NY Times, so it doesn't count.

This is a serious fracture. Blair, no doubt, took his cue from our tragic election that it was safe to jump back in the water of insanity with Bush essentially defeated. I suspect we're going to be hearing the same BS from France, Spain, Germany et al.

At any rate, the confluence of events in the past week, followed by this capitulation, portends a very bloody 2007 for the free world (or what's left of it).

1 posted on 11/14/2006 6:06:57 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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The first cracks in the united front over Iraq between Tony Blair and President Bush appeared last night as the Prime Minister offered Iran and Syria the prospect of dialogue over the future of Iraq and the Middle East.

Have President Bush and Blair lost their minds? How do they think 'talking' with Iran and Syria is going to help us? They are THE ENEMY!!!!!

2 posted on 11/14/2006 6:12:09 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
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Mr Blair called for the United States to lead a new drive towards peace in the Middle East, including peace in Palestine and the Lebanon, arguing that ultimately it was the only way to defeat al-Qaeda.

The "if we just give the Palestinians a state the Islamists will chill out" crowd is dangerously delusional.

3 posted on 11/14/2006 6:14:54 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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"there could be a new “partnership” with Iran if it stopped supporting terrorism in Iraq and gave up its nuclear ambitions"

But it won't. Next.

4 posted on 11/14/2006 6:17:08 AM PST by JasonC
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To: lonevoice

ping


5 posted on 11/14/2006 6:19:00 AM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: Rummyfan
"Iran’s “genuine fear” that America sought a military solution was “entirely misplaced”."

Actually it is genuine confidence that American is politically incapable of pursuing a military solution. If Iran had any fear in the matter they might actually stop (though it is unlikely). Their pursuit of the means to incinerate millions of their enemies is not the result of any fear, but pure ambition and desire to see human beings cooked, wholesale.

6 posted on 11/14/2006 6:19:38 AM PST by JasonC
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To: Rutles4Ever



7 posted on 11/14/2006 6:26:38 AM PST by XR7
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<< Blair - we must work with Axis of Evil states >>

Go to Hell, Blair! And take that damned horse with you.

(You Neo-Axis-co-founding bolshy bastard!)


8 posted on 11/14/2006 6:30:52 AM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Rutles4Ever

This is a mistake. A very big mistake.


9 posted on 11/14/2006 6:37:30 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Fine. But don't expect us to bail you out when things go wrong.


10 posted on 11/14/2006 6:40:43 AM PST by Brilliant
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What's truly sad is that these developments are going to lead a lot of conservatives (like myself) to just throw up their hands, shut the doors, bar the windows, and let Europe deal with their coming nuclear holocaust/Islamic caliphate. We sent our young men and women over there to shed their blood for freedom's sak,e and this is what we get?


11 posted on 11/14/2006 6:51:38 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Rutles4Ever
You're being manipulated by the media. I saw Blair's speech on television. He basically said the same thing as he's always said - Iran and Syria have to live up to their obligations. If they don't, they're going to be frozen out.

Here's another take on exactly the same speech:

BLAIR: 'No softening' on Iran and Syria

I know it's oodles of fun to jump and down about them "dern foreigners" but hysteria is neither practical nor useful.

Regards, Ivan

12 posted on 11/14/2006 6:54:47 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Good luck with that, because, like, Iran and North Korea are such reasonable countries...


13 posted on 11/14/2006 6:55:19 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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What's truly sad is that these developments are going to lead a lot of conservatives (like myself) to just throw up their hands, shut the doors, bar the windows, and let Europe deal with their coming nuclear holocaust/Islamic caliphate.

Why is that sad? Nations rise and fall due to their own actions. Europe has chosen the path of slow suicide, and is unrepentently marching down it. I can't shed a tear for a culture that won't fight or f@%* to save itself. If they want to sit back and sneer at us in snotty superiority while their own gates are being beaten down, so be it.

14 posted on 11/14/2006 6:58:44 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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Blair: "Or, alternatively, they face the consequence of not doing so: isolation."

For what it's worth, this is one of them "dern foreign" newspapers reporting on the "not softening" of the policy to remove the deterrant of military action from the diplomatic equation.

For the past two years, the White House has stated clearly that "all options" are on the table with regard to Iran. If this doesn't undercut the White House, I don't know what does. Iran "living up to their obligations" means letting the U.N. back in to do their inspections. Whoop dee doo. That carries all the weight of a feather in a hurricane.

15 posted on 11/14/2006 7:01:29 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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The Times has been going off on a trip to la la land recently. This is not the first time it's spun events in this manner.

I would hasten to point out that Blair didn't say that military options were off the table. He said isolation was the first consequence.

Regards, Ivan

16 posted on 11/14/2006 7:04:25 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Steel Wolf; MadIvan

It's sad because the U.K. is a great friend of the United States, and as much as conservatives in the U.K. are disappointed over our elections, I, as a conservative, am disappointed that the British government thinks the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a speeding train. It's not about "fereigners" or what-have-you. If Britain won't stand with us, then there's simply nothing we can do to help stem the tide. It's not a statement of emotion, it's a statement of the cold truth. We can't do this WOT alone. It's impossible.


17 posted on 11/14/2006 7:07:38 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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Blair said this or was it BJ Clinton?


18 posted on 11/14/2006 7:08:19 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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Then I stand corrected. What's the general atmosphere in London? Would a detente with Iran and Syria have any legs with the population there?


19 posted on 11/14/2006 7:08:55 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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And here's a jolly pic of Rumsfeld appeasing Saddam. . . . . Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
20 posted on 11/14/2006 7:09:23 AM PST by AngloSaxonChristian
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