Giuliani 'Unacceptable' for President, Conservatives Say

CNSNews ^ | November 15, 2006 | Randy Hall

[Tarheel]

Not only are they out in force, they are swinging from the vines--- ;-).

[Spiff]

The Real Rudy Giuliani:

• Pro-abortion - He even opposes banning partial birth murder.
• Anti-2nd Amendment - supports gun grabbing legislation including the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban
• Pro-big government - amassed unprecedented debt as Mayor of NYC
• Pro-radical gay agenda
  

  - Attended and marched in every gay pride parade in NYC while mayor (even one in 1992 that included a NAMBLA contingent of pedophile activists)
  - Attends and supports many functions and fund-raisers held by radical gay organizations (even did a cross dressing act at Pride Agenda fund-raiser)
  - Openly opposes Constitutional Amendment to protect tradition marriage which is supported by President Bush and the Republican Party Platform.
  - Supported "domestic partner" and "civil union" bills in City Council while mayor of NYC.
  - Submitted Gay "Domestic-Partner" Rights Bill to City Council giving gay and lesbian couples the same benefits reserved for married couples.
  - Said, "I'm proud of it" when referring to the gay "domestic partner" bill he submitted. Said, "National Republicans can lump it if they don't like this new domestic-partners bill...I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country."
  - Has received awards from several radical gay agenda organizations who support gay marriage for his support of their cause. Is considered a "champion" of gay "rights."
  - Lived with a gay "married" couple in Manhattan when he moved out of Gracie Mansion during his second divorce.
  - Said that homosexuality is "good and normal"
  

• Pro-illegal immigration - said no one in New York City is going to assist the federal government with the enforcement of immigration law, sued Feds in 1997 to be able to ignore immigration law, lost in court, vowed to ignore law anyway
• Endorses liberal Democrat candidates over Republicans - endorsed liberal Dem Mario Cuomo over Republican George Pataki in NY Governor's race
• Ran for NYC Mayor in 1994 on Liberal Party ticket. Appointed Liberal Party State Chair to a Deputy Mayor position. Endorsed 3 times by the Liberal Party for his liberal views.
• Holds many other liberal views
• Republican In Name Only - opposes many major planks of the GOP Platform

Read more about Giuliani's liberal positions here and here.

Some people want Republicans to ignore his liberalism on almost every issue and, as a distraction, they try to pretend that Rudy is fiscally conservative. Again, his record shows that he isn't fiscally conservative either:

According to an article in The Nation from 2002:

It's now apparent that Giuliani purchased the city's good times partially with borrowed money and left his successor, Mike Bloomberg, holding a bag of debt. New York City went from a $3 billion budget surplus in 1998 to a $4.5 billion deficit after Giuliani left office. This mismanagement of prosperity is a big part of his legacy. Giuliani left the city's finances in a mess...

Here are some things Giuliani did as Mayor that were NOT anywhere near being fiscally conservative:

• New York City went from a $3 billion budget surplus in 1998 to a $4.5 billion deficit after Giuliani left office.
  
• Added 25,000 government employees patronage hires to the city's payroll after promising to cut the work force.
  
• Giuliani's borrowing practices increased the city's debt burden by 50 percent.
  
• Partly because of Giuliani, New York City is now the biggest debtor in the nation outside of the federal government with $42 billion in loans outstanding.
  

According to the article from The Nation:

During the 1960s Giuliani was a self-described "Robert Kennedy Democrat." He identified with RFK as a liberal Catholic prosecutor. He volunteered for RFK's 1968 presidential campaign while he was a student at NYU Law School. Giuliani also voted for George McGovern in 1972. During the liberal 1960s, he was a liberal.

But in 1975 Giuliani switched his party registration from Democrat to Independent when he got a job in Gerald Ford's Justice Department, according to his mentor Harold "Ace" Tyler.

On December 8, 1980, Giuliani changed his registration from Independent to Republican. This was one month after Ronald Reagan's election, and just as he was applying for a top job in the Justice Department.

So, to sum that up:

• Liberal Democrat until 1975
• Worked as volunteer for Democrat Robert F. Kennedy's presidential campaign.
• Voted for liberal George McGovern.
• Liberal Independent from 1975-1980.
• Did not register as a Republican until 1980 and only AFTER Ronald Reagan was elected and because he was applying for a top job in the administration.

He's a liberal. He's not even in the same building as conservative. He's only a Republican because...and this comes from his own mother, Helen Giuliani:

"He only became a Republican after he began to get all these jobs from them. He's definitely not a conservative Republican. He thinks he is, but he isn't..."

And as John Hawkins put it in an excellent article in Human Events:

Despite all of his charisma and the wonderful leadership he showed after 9/11, Rudy Giuliani is not a Reagan Republican. To the contrary, Giuliani is another Christie Todd Whitman, another Arlen Specter, another Olympia Snowe. He's a throwback to the "bad old days" before Reagan, when the GOP was run by moderate Country Club Republicans who considered conservatives to be extremists. Trying to revive that failed strategy again is likely to lead to a Democratic President in 2008 and numerous setbacks for the Republican Party.

[GarySpFc]

I will only vote for a man who walks with the Lord, and Giuliani's position on abortion and gay rights eliminates him.

A vote for Hillary or Giuliani would be forsaking the Lord IMHO.

[beltfed308]

Enjoy Hillary.

Compliments of the RNC.

[arthurus]

The party is doomed if Bush signs an Amnesty of any sort because it will set off a tremendous migration from the south many times larger than we have seen thus far of instant Democrat voters. Otherwise the Republican Party will certainly be hurt by adopting the policies of the far left of the Democrat party. Why vote for a closet Democrat when you can vote for the real thing? Or why bother to vote when both candidates are Democrats, with one of them calling himself a Republican so he can run. Rudy might well make a good AJ or SecDef. Your bitterness at the unfairness of it all (a true Democrat trait, that Unfairness plaint)will not alter reality, Giuliani will not get the Christian vote or the vote of people who value the 2nd Amendment and non insane social arrangements.

[BunnySlippers]

It's a wasted vote.

I often don't like the Republican nominee but I vote for them.

A vote for a non-electable Repub is a vote for Hillary. Don't moan and cry when she wins ... it's your fault.

[bonfire]

"Yeah, like Clinton. Womanizing is bad enough but divorce and redivorce is anathema to a LARGE segment of the Republican base and to most of the Conservative base."

...except for Reagan.

[Wombat101]

"In some cases, I think we just have to accept that some candidates are unacceptable to a lot of folks on the right."

True. But does this mean they shouldn't get a fair hearing and be subject to gratuitous trashing? This is supposed to be America, and there's supposed to be the free exchange of ideas. We creep closer to theocracy every day in this country, despite what Bill O'Reilly says.

"You may not like to hear it, but Rudy is going to cause more division and anger within our party..."

I see, so unity is good, but only if it's under a regime of strict moral and political ideology, arbitrarily applied by the self-righteous, self-appointed hall monitors of the religious right? Hmmm. that sounds an awful lot like totalitarianism to me.

[areafiftyone]

sorry I couldn't help it. ;-)

[goldstategop]

I know if he has what it takes to win the support of a skeptical party. We shall see.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[Halls]

oh please, I will vote for whatever Republican candidate we have, but in the primarys I will not vote for Rudy and I doubt highly he will be the our Republican candidate!

[Mariner]

Rudy will win the GOP nomination and the general election with a new coalition.

I predict this coalition will dominate US politics for several decades.

[arthurus]

Mrs. Clinton will. RG is the one candidate the Republicans could run that would Guarantee Clinton redux.

[WalterSkinner]

..Rudy --no

The battle for the soul of the Republican Party has begun...

[Tinman]

Long time no see. Hope all is well with you and yours.

I'm starting to think, that by the time '08 rolls around, there will be no choice for anyone who loves liberty. Can it be that there are so few Americans remaining that have even an inkling of what the Founders intended?

Yeah, I guess Ben Franklin was right.

Regards

[Rakkasan1]

I'm with you on that.

[areafiftyone]

ROFLMAO!!

[BunnySlippers]

Compliments of stay-at-home voters. You don't get your way to take your marbles and go home.

I often don't like the nominee ... but I vote for them.

Don't moan when Hillary wins. You caused it to happen.

[EagleUSA]

Should conservatives be put in a position of having to vote for a liberal Republican to simply stop Hillary then the Pubbies will have a serious turnout problem.
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The good news is we have the potential candidates pretty well pegged right now...history and facts will not change. I don't think America can afford ANOTHER liberal Republican --- certainly not a hard Marxist, like Clinton, in the White House (my worst nightmare).

[reelfoot]

"make him an unacceptable candidate in the 2008 presidential election, according to conservative analysts"

Here, here.

Totally unacceptable.

We need a conservative for a change.