Posted on 11/15/2006 7:30:55 AM PST by 300magnum
Trolling for DU now, are ya? ;-)
But I DO disgree with your comment about Libertarians--and I would like to quote my hero on the topic--
If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.---Ronald Reagan, 1975
I wouldn't vote for him. Period.
And if the GOP names him their nominee I'd consider the party to have lost all conservative ideals.
"So the Religious Right doesn't like Rudy, doesn't like Mormon Romney, doesn't like McCain, doesn't like Newt.
Looks like Clinton '08!"
Newt is unfortunately unelectable.
As for the rest, I don't like any of them.
I like Hitlery even less.
I will vote for any of the three.
I would vote for Attila the Hun before I vote for Hillary.
If infidelity is disqualifying, scratch McCain off your list.
I must've missed the place where someone, anyone, was suggesting he be put to death.
A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing, and, based on your post #6, your knowledge of Christianity and the Bible appear to fall in that category.
Go back and finish reading the post. I didnt say Rudy supporters are irrelevant. I said ALL "I'll vote for whoever the party nominates" voters are irrelevant because the politicians don't have to earn their vote.
Rudy is way ahead right now because the MSM is pushing him and he has name recognition. He cant win the general election because he cant get big chunks of the conservative vote. Even if by some miracle he did squeak into a win, the MSM would have a liberal in the office. They would prefer a Democrat liberal but will accept a Republican liberal over a conservative.
So if you really dont want Hillary as president, you need to start pushing for a conservative nominee and start telling the party establishment you will not vote for a liberal. Thats how you make them listen.
Read your history, magnum. The belief in individual liberties and the attendent restraint of government power by the governed, ARE liberal ideas.
The belief that government is the solution to every political or social problem, and the direct application of it's coercive powers can somehow be "more just" in the hands of fallible human beings (solong as they are the "right kind" of political and social thinkers), is most certainly NOT.
Believe me, Hillary Clinton and the rest of the gang are certainly NOT liberals. They are power-worshippers,plain and simple.
That's not true...he doesn't want to take away your guns. People just look for a reason to hate the man.
"I must've missed the place where someone, anyone, was suggesting he be put to death."
Nice try, putting into that kind of context.
In effect, he is being stoned to death because the purpose of this article. and most of the rest I've seen in the last two days, is to stifle debate, and to cause dissention in the ranks.
I know in my heart of hearts that barring some earth-shattering event that causes a complete re-evaluation of the political landscape, theman is doomed to fail at the primary level. But that doesn't mean he doesn't have anything to add to the debate, and that is exactly what is being done here: by concentrating on the negative, we're discounting the possibility that there's a positive in there somewhere.
If that's how you choose to practice your politics, then I hope you are happy with whatever lock-step-ideological, pure-as-the-driven-snow (wink, wink), no-idea-that-didn't-originate-in-Scripture, milquetoast eventually garners the nomination.
Yes, nobody's perfect, but the goal should be winning the White House in '08, not feeling good about our candidate (and ourselves).
I lived in Jersey when Rudy was Mayor.
Look at the bright side, by getting the window washers and beggars off the street, you didn't have to worry about shooting one.
Like I said earlier, The Second Amendment for me is a deal breaker. Rudy could be the second coming but until he changes his ideology on the second, he will not get my vote.
It is too late for Rudy to change on the second amendment. He had his chance when he had power. Now, talk is cheap.
As a "single issue voter" (the 2A) he will NEVER get my vote. Not even for dog cather!
You must be too young to know that when you accuse someone of 'lock step', you are accusing them of collaboration with Nazism. Is that what you're doing?
No, he's for gun control.
America is going to have to decide in 2008 if they want an ideologue a politican or a leader to run this country. You get to pick two of the three. That's how it works.
Rudy is about as honest and credible as Harry Reid!
They both follow their own agenda ahead of anyone else's, and take credit for the work of others.
I wish people would stop salivating over the candidacy of RINO's like Rudy, it discourages actual conservatives from running.
I totally agree and what scares me is the fact that as a prosecutor he does not believe in the 2nd and cherry picks from the USC. If elected he will take an oath that means nothing.
NEW LIBERALISM...supporter of abortion rights, anti-gun, gay marriages....everthing I am against.
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