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Boston Globe: 'Big Demotion' for V.P. Cheney?
NewsBusters.org ^ | 11/18/06 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 11/18/2006 8:22:01 AM PST by Mobile Vulgus

Reading the Globe's Nov 18th piece about vice President Cheney, one can palpably feel their fingers being crossed, their wishes being cast into the wishing well, that Cheney is on the outs with this supposed "big demotion" the paper sees for his immediate future.

In short, will Rumsfeld's abrupt dismissal finally diminish Cheney's unprecedented dominance of Bush? Or did the always cunning vice president read the writing on the wall and decide that it was time for his good friend Rumsfeld to go?
And typically, as with every story about the VP, one quotient missing in the analysis is the president himself, prosaically fitting into the the Cheney-as-puppetmaster story line the MSM has created for him. (Though, now they want to cast James Baker in Cheney's puppeteering shoes)

The Globe has even reached for the macabre, saying that the VP, "America's de facto prime minister" has been "eerily missing from public view".

IN THE 10 days since President Bush fired Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, one figure is eerily missing from public view and public accounts of what occurred: Vice President Dick Cheney. As usual, America's de facto prime minister is either literally or metaphorically in an undisclosed location.
Shades of Edgar Allan Poe, there, Globe.

But, then, they always have made Cheney out to be the Uncle Creepy of the Administration, eh?

They then go on to rehash the MSM's conventional "wisdom" that Cheney is out of favor because Rumsfeld has been terminated, assuming that Cheney's ideas on the Iraq war are finished.

Of course, this assumes that Bush has gone to his new nominee for the Secretary of Defense because of the defeat at the polls and as sudden a turn against his past policies -- even as Bush has repeatedly said since the elections that he has no intention of pulling out of Iraq.

What this story assumes is that Bush is so wishy washy that any wind will blow him from his course. It also assumes that Gates will be bringing a pull-out mentality and that he will bring a contrary opinion to the President's.

See, Bush is too stupid to have his OWN policy and be able to control his OWN administration. Right, Globe? He needs a Cheney, gates, or now a Baker to run it all for him, eh?

But, the MSM has decided to ignore the story that Bush was meeting with Gates on november 5th, BEFORE the elections, to sound him out for Rummy's job. It just isn't very sensible to expect that the president is bringing in a guy who will cause an abrupt about face on a policy that the President has made his cornerstone for most of his presidency.

But, that would deny the Bush-is-stupid story line that the MSM propagates, so they certainly won't walk down this road of analysis, you can be sure!


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bostonglobe; bush; cheney; rumsfeld
Yeah, Bush is too stupid to have his OWN ideas according to the media.
1 posted on 11/18/2006 8:22:04 AM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

They've had their fingers crossed since January 2001


2 posted on 11/18/2006 8:24:12 AM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Well, that's one of their several stances. Another is that the President is a brilliant strategist who engineered 9/11 so he count go into Iraq and steal all their oil. Or something like that. (It's hard to tell sometimes--liberals aren't always that clear on things.)


3 posted on 11/18/2006 8:24:37 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Demotion? How do you "demote" a Vice-President? Mr. Cheney is the best.

The "Globe" and friends are idiots.


4 posted on 11/18/2006 8:24:58 AM PST by madison10 (If my people, who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray...I will heal their land.)
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To: Mo1

The Two minutes of hate continues....
I see the Dems proposing the Week of Hate soon...


5 posted on 11/18/2006 8:26:28 AM PST by griswold3 (I cried when I erased my tagline....)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Not to worry....in the years to come they all will see it was W guiding the ship of nstate, and VP Cheney as the best VP we've ever had, handling the chores given him by the "boss"


6 posted on 11/18/2006 8:27:20 AM PST by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Cheney's unprecedented dominance of Bush?

uhhh,, Ok. geeshh.. sore whiners "winners" or what?

7 posted on 11/18/2006 8:27:57 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

These people seem to see malfeasance and treachery under every rock. Must really create a vacuum to be them.


8 posted on 11/18/2006 8:33:09 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (Do what you love and the ridicule will follow.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
I hope the VP decides to resign and go about the rest of his life in peace, rather than serve a public who does not appreciate nor care for our great country.

After the surrender of the American people on Nov 7th, he must be saddened by the step off the cliff America chose, and he must know this is the beginning of the end for us.

At least he will not live to see the USA become Europe.
9 posted on 11/18/2006 8:36:35 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Mobile Vulgus

The Globe should stick to alien abductions and crap circles.


10 posted on 11/18/2006 8:38:07 AM PST by dc-zoo
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To: Mobile Vulgus

This trashing of Cheney would be understandable if he were thinking of running for President in 2008. Otherwise it's just an example of paranoia on the part of the Left.

Dick Cheney is a very capable individual. He's the type of heavyweight we should have as a Vice-President. He's worked in the corporate climate and achieved quite a bit due to his abilities.

What the Dems would have, is a person who was elected to office in their mid-twenties and had never held a public sector job. With few exceptions Bill Clinton was that type of individual. Al Gore was a perfect match. And their abilities???

Dick Cheney has been a asset to this nation. He gave up a job which paid in excess of $10 million per year, to become Bush's running mate. The guy has ability, devotion to country and the temperment to take a secondary position.

While I don't agree with Cheney on everything, and in fact disagree with him quite a bit on a few things, he is still a very capable individual. What I disagree with him on, are traits that the left cherishes. For this reason, I think it's almost an aspect of insanity for them to object to him so stridently.

The left dispising him as they do, must be a feather in the cap of Cheney. When people of that level of mentality and moral degeneration dispise you, it's got to say something good about you.


11 posted on 11/18/2006 8:39:08 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

More leftist rubbish from the jerks running this newspaper.


12 posted on 11/18/2006 8:40:38 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Who cares what the Boston Globe writes????

Vice President Cheney has more class in his little finger than all the people of Mass. will ever have and that includes anyone or anything that publishes in the Boston Globe....

That paper is good for the bottom of bird cages....


13 posted on 11/18/2006 8:43:49 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: All

Where was Cheney during the '06 election? Anyone? Like I've said for years, he's a disaster to the GOP... Should have been demoted to senior advisor years ago.


14 posted on 11/18/2006 8:50:00 AM PST by NYC Republican (Dems' Worst Nightmare- - - An Informed Voter)
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To: NYC Republican

NYC Republican....didn't know NYC had any left....


15 posted on 11/18/2006 8:56:58 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: NYC Republican
Where was Cheney during the '06 election? Anyone? Like I've said for years, he's a disaster to the GOP...


Where was Cheney when they were spending money liked they hated the stuff?

As CEO of Haliburton you would of thought he could read a balance sheet.
16 posted on 11/18/2006 9:02:38 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: DoughtyOne

In praising the VP, you said he showed his stuff running Haliburton. How about Secretary of Defense under Bush 41? He was the youngest White House Chief of Staff (President Ford). Six term Congressman from Wyoming. The list goes on. IMHO, one of the GREAT leaders this country has had. Trashing this man would NOT be understandable at all.


17 posted on 11/18/2006 9:06:55 AM PST by lapdog
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To: Mobile Vulgus
This country is fortunate to have had the services of Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld for so many years.

But no surprise that the liberal press does not agree.

18 posted on 11/18/2006 9:16:43 AM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4Bhmm22xo&NR

Bush spech from 10 years ago. His delivery was powerful and compelling. Compare it to today's delivery, what gives?

That's the problem, George casts doubt on his own policies with his halting delivery. I wish he wouldn't trash his inner circle. he needs them.


19 posted on 11/18/2006 9:17:22 AM PST by spudsmaki
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To: Mobile Vulgus
The Globe is nucking futs. Cheney has NOT been "eerily missing from public view".

First of all he went to South Dakota for his annual hunting trip, after first voting in Wyoming on election day - which by my calender was only eleven day ago. And last Wednesday, the 15th, he spoke at a Federalist Society function.

So missing from "public view" my patoot.

(The Globe has to stop putting LSD in their Coffee Room sugar bowl)

20 posted on 11/18/2006 9:27:35 AM PST by Condor51 (Tagline Under Construction - Kindly Wear Your Hardhat)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
In short, will Rumsfeld's abrupt dismissal...

How many times did the SecDef tender his resignation? Three, four? "Abrupt," my a$$.

The Globe's editorial staff is a fine collection of richard heads.

5.56mm

21 posted on 11/18/2006 9:28:48 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: lapdog

I appreciate you mentioning those additional points regarding Cheney. I was unaware of them, and your point is well taken.


22 posted on 11/18/2006 9:41:26 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: Condor51
Good points. Has the Globe ever covered Cheney's travels, reprinted any of his speeches, interviewed him?

I don't know, but it seems the Globe only refers to Cheney when it requires a sinister and brooding figure to color its pre-written storyline.

23 posted on 11/18/2006 9:42:01 AM PST by TimSkalaBim
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To: Mobile Vulgus

What is it the Boston Globe, NY Times and others don't get about Dick Cheney being elected, not appointed.


24 posted on 11/18/2006 9:43:48 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: NYC Republican

Demoted? You can't demote an elected official. Have you ever read the Constitution?


25 posted on 11/18/2006 10:09:06 AM PST by ilovew (Rummy...the best Secretary of Defense ever.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

This paper is about to go belly-up, and I for one cannot wait.


26 posted on 11/18/2006 10:14:01 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Dick Cheney was largely sidelined first a bit after 9-11, and then after the Iraq war got tough. IMHO this signalled the first mistake and backing down of the Bush administration. Cheney is a knowledgeable savvy tough guy, exactly what the nation needed.


27 posted on 11/18/2006 10:44:49 AM PST by Williams
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To: ilovew

Demote as in replace him with someone else.


28 posted on 11/18/2006 12:21:26 PM PST by NYC Republican (Dems' Worst Nightmare- - - An Informed Voter)
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To: HarleyLady27

They lost one more when I left for Fairfield County, CT 2 years ago.


29 posted on 11/18/2006 12:22:05 PM PST by NYC Republican (Dems' Worst Nightmare- - - An Informed Voter)
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To: NYC Republican

I have a few friends in NY...on Long Island...and they tell me that the GOP in New York period is long dead....

I could tell that by the elections this last time....I thought Jeanne Pirro was a qualified person to be State Attorney General, but the baby cumo that whines his way thru life won...what actually is he going to do for the State Of New York except what Spiter tells him to do...

I could go on for quite a while but you know just as much about this state as I do....and it isn't getting any better here in Pennsylvania with baby casey jr. whining his way thru with fast eddy telling him what to do....


30 posted on 11/18/2006 12:30:27 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: Mobile Vulgus

31 posted on 11/18/2006 12:38:30 PM PST by pabianice
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To: NYC Republican
Should have been demoted to senior advisor years ago.

You don't demote a guy like Dick Cheney.

32 posted on 11/18/2006 12:53:08 PM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: NYC Republican

We elected and then re-elected Cheney, along with President Bush. I don't see any reason we should replace him.


33 posted on 11/18/2006 3:11:18 PM PST by ilovew (Rummy...the best Secretary of Defense ever.)
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To: ilovew

Someone once said the presidency is whatever the president makes it, and I think the same is true of the vice presidency: It is whatever the president makes it. Presidents can't "demote" their vice presidents in the purely technical sense, but they can decide their actual (not just technical) importance. If Cheney is powerful in the Bush Administration, it's because the president wanted it. If the president wanted to make Cheney irrelevant to policy decisions, he could do that too.


34 posted on 11/18/2006 3:28:08 PM PST by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: ilovew

Unless he is impeached (God, I hope not), he would have to resign in order to be replaced. I've never met the man, but he strikes me as a guy who wouldn't run from a fight like that.


35 posted on 11/19/2006 4:58:52 PM PST by lapdog
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To: Mobile Vulgus
When Rummy went I believe the VP was hunting or just returning from hunting plus also as a personel friend of Rumsfeld I would think the President out of respect for both men felt it was not appropriate for him to be there. The hunting trip may well have prearranged for this reason

Also the next few days the President has Cheney with him for each photo opportunity with press after meetings in the White House.

It is quite well known that Cheney attends most of these meetings but when the press arrive to start snapping photos he has already departed. This time with both Reid and Pelosi and I think it was also the Israeli PM he remained. Clean sign by the President or the White House that Cheney remains and is as well thought or influential as ever whichever way you wish to phrase it.

Wishful thinking Globe.
36 posted on 11/20/2006 6:16:43 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: NYC Republican
Where was Cheney during the '06 election?

Not sure what you mean by that he campaigned tirelessly for Republican raising millions of dollars for them. Your comment makes not sense. Just go the the White House website and you will see countless speeches made on behalf of candidates.

37 posted on 11/20/2006 6:21:01 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: NYC Republican

You cannot replace an elected official they have to resign - Cheney will not resign


38 posted on 11/20/2006 6:23:05 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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