Posted on 11/27/2006 9:17:55 PM PST by Coleus
I don't see how they can get around what Saint Paul says clearly in the first chapter of Romans against homosexuality.
To put it short, they are making up the rules and laws along the way as they go, and making a society of themselves, and for themselves and eventually the rest of ( NORMAL ) society will be forced to comply.
Yeah, all they will do is burn Saint Paul at the stake for being a homophobe for making the statement, and strike the passage from the bible as not being " Holy Spirit inspired " .
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
2 Timothy 4:3
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. First of all, Ruth and Naomi were widows...widows of two men. So for two widowed women to bind together to get through the hard times is natural. Moreover, once they were back in her homeland, Naomi made it her mission to find Ruth a husband.
Second, I doubt the interpretation of the New Testament passage about the centurions' servant being a gay lover. But even if that were an accurate interpretation, all that story shows is that Jesus did not want the man to be sick and die...Jesus (and indeed Christians) do not want gay people to become sick and die. He (and we) want them to be healed and healthy. Christ was not a hater of people, but of sin.
Since you have no trouble lumping all Christians in one category, I'll answer for all of us: We see ourselves as sinners (bad people who do bad things). we want to be better, so we actually want to do what the Bible tells us we should do. It's not easy. Take your sanctimonious crap to a Jesse Jacksnnnnn rally. You'd fit in better.
The Point.
1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
The Word is clear. Unrepentant (practicing) homosexuals who die in their sin, GO TO HELL. They can go to church, they can call themselves a Christian...but if they are practicing homosexuals when they die--they will spend eternity in Hell.
This passage lists a number of sins that offer the same consequences for unrepentance. An unrepentant thief goes straight to hell as well.
BUT, no other sin listed in that passage has a number of followers out to forcably legalize thier sin-calling sin a civil right.
When Jesus stopped the stoning of the adultress, He told her to. "Go and sin no more." Repentance doesn't mean perfection, or a lack of struggle...The sin must stop! If a gay or lesbian isn't even attempting to stop the sin-They will burn: end of story.
They construe most things to mean "sex partner". One sees what one is most familiar with.
King James, lisp addition?
Ruth was married to Naomi's son. Then later, Ruth married Boaz with the encouragement of Naomi. Yeah, that sure sounds like a "committed same-sex relationship."
These people are desperate and will grasp at any straws.
You don't want to read the "model domestic relations law" which is used by law makers when making changes to divorce and marriage law.
This is put out by a division of the American Bar Association and is the ONLY model code used by the law makers and law school elitists.
You currently have an ENTIRE CROP of lawyers being taught children are mere accessories to breeding couples. They are indoctrinating law students that the basis of marriage is recreational sex alone!
That is the sickest and most dishonest biblical interpretation I've ever heard.
Does the Bible condemn homosexual activity? Yes, along with lots of other types of behavior. Does it condemn homosexuality "in no uncertain terms?" Hardly. The Ten Commandments are clear, unequivical, and to the point, and there should be no debate as to what they mean. Notably absent from the Ten Commandments, however, is any reference whatsoever to homosexual behavior. One would think that if homosexuality is as sinful as many here believe, then God would have put it on the list with adultry, theft, murder, hating your parents, lying, using the Lord's name in vain, and failing to keep the Sabath holy.
I'm not suggesting that homosexual is not a sin or that it is normal or that we should accept the homo aggenda with open arms. I am saying that if we use the Ten Commandments as a reference, homosexuality is certainly no worse of a sin than other kinds of behavior that many people -- Christian and non-Christian alike -- engage in every day. Think about that the next time you decide to cheat a little bit on your taxes or spend the Sabath at the shopping mall or football stadium. And lets not forget the second greatest commandment of all -- love your neighbor as you love yourself. (Mark 12:28-31) Jesus did not qualify this commandment or limit it to your straight, heterosexual neighbors, and I suspect that Jesus would want us to show Christian love to our neighbors who sin the most even if they happen to be queer.
"Servant"? Sometimes "servant" means "servant", as here.
Oh, I see where the creative miscontruction comes into play (Matthew 8:9): "For I, too, am a man under authority (bondage?), with solders under me (same-sex orgy?); and I say to this one, 'Go!' and he goes (some kind of excremental fetish?), and to another, 'Come!' and he comes, and to my slave, 'Do this!' and he does it."
These people are so darkened by their sin, their so-called deep scholarship is transparent. They have been "given over in their lusts of their hearts to impurity, that their bodies might be dishonored among them." (Romans 1:24).
God's revelation of the law does not end with the 10 commandments. God continued to speak to Moses on how to contruct the "tent of meeting" (the tabernacle), and also from the "tent of meeting." See Leviticus 1: "The the Lord called to Moses and spoke to him from the tent of meeting saying ..." We get Leviticus 18 which deals with sexual sins including homosexual acts. These laws apply to all the sons of Israel, not just the Levites as some sodomite apologists will argue.
I agree that God's law doesn't end with the Ten Commandments, but I think you are missing my point. Although homosexuality is a sin, there is nothing in the Bible that elevates homosexuality above or even to the level of adultry, failing to keep the Sabbath holy, or any of the other Ten Commandments. Seems to me that if queers are destined for hell because homosexuality is a sin, then so are the millions of hetersexual Americans who spend the Sabbath at their favorite football stadium or neighborhood pub worshipping their favorite team. Their sin, which violates the clear and unequivical language of the Ten Commandments is certainly no less of a sin than homosexuality, which didn't even make the top ten.
No - They only care about the parts that they can twist to support their agenda. What part of the word abomination do these folks not understand?
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