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Intellectual Conservative ^ | 12/2/2006 | Do the Dhue

Posted on 12/02/2006 9:39:12 AM PST by do the dhue

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To: do the dhue
[ He told the class that if you had a continuum with Communism on the left and Capitalism on the right and Socialism in the middle, he said that Communism and Capitalism is slowly moving towards each other. ]

COMMUNISM .. "IS" SOCIALISM... This comment makes zero sense..
And shows the author knows nothing about communism or socialism..

Socialism is but a symptom of democracy.. Democracy causes socialism and ultimately communism if allowed to mature..

Socialism is Slavery by Government.. A FACT far above Canadian and European(and American democrat) minds to absorb.. Pity..

21 posted on 12/02/2006 11:23:10 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: hosepipe
true that Communism is Socialism derived from Carl Marx's view. But put on a continuum, Communism falls to the left of Socialism and Capitalism falls to the right of Socialism.
22 posted on 12/02/2006 11:45:19 AM PST by do the dhue (How come the Demorats have not fixed Iraq yet? They're inept!! Vote 'em out!!)
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To: ex-snook
LOL


23 posted on 12/02/2006 11:47:25 AM PST by do the dhue (How come the Demorats have not fixed Iraq yet? They're inept!! Vote 'em out!!)
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To: Thumper1960
would like to see that.
24 posted on 12/02/2006 11:47:57 AM PST by do the dhue (How come the Demorats have not fixed Iraq yet? They're inept!! Vote 'em out!!)
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To: do the dhue
[ true that Communism is Socialism derived from Carl Marx's view. But put on a continuum, Communism falls to the left of Socialism and Capitalism falls to the right of Socialism. ]

Whats NOT mentioned is the Capitalization of Socialism or the Socialization of Capitalism.. like whats happening in China, Europe, and the United States..

In the U.S.A. (SSA) Social Security is pure socialism.. and most Americans would gouge out their eyes before re-thinking it..

Socialism is "Slavery by Government" exactly and implicitly.. With the slaves voting to enslave themselves..

America was not designed to be a democracy, it was designed to be a Republic, exactly for that reason..

25 posted on 12/02/2006 12:00:12 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: do the dhue
DSA-Demoncrat Party incest
26 posted on 12/02/2006 12:03:13 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: hosepipe
What you are saying is exactly what my teacher said in 1984.

He said that Communism was moving closer to Socialism and Capitalism was moving closer to Socialism. He augured that it would not just be in America. And that was in 84. Like you said, you see it in China, Europe, even here in the US. And like Joe said in the 40s, Commies were here. I think the 1930s was when Social Security was set up. That is how long they have been here, spewing their ideals. Check the American Commie web page and see how long they have been established here.

And you are exactly right about being a Republic.
27 posted on 12/02/2006 12:11:11 PM PST by do the dhue (How come the Demorats have not fixed Iraq yet? They're inept!! Vote 'em out!!)
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To: Thumper1960
Formed in 1983 during the Cold War by merging splinter factions of the Socialist movement, DSA brought together what it calls "former Socialists and Communists, former old leftists and new leftists, and many who had never been leftists at all." In its early years, DSA supported the Soviet-backed nuclear freeze program that would have consolidated Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe - under the banner of promoting "peace."

Am I crazy, or are these people a National Security threat?
28 posted on 12/02/2006 12:14:06 PM PST by do the dhue (How come the Demorats have not fixed Iraq yet? They're inept!! Vote 'em out!!)
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To: Thumper1960
DSA seeks to increase its political influence not by establishing its own party, but rather by working closely with the Democratic Party to promote leftist agendas. "Like our friends and allies in the feminist, labor, civil rights, religious, and community organizing movements, many of us have been active in the Democratic Party," says DSA. "We work with those movements to strengthen the party's left wing, represented by the Congressional Progressive Caucus. ... Maybe sometime in the future ... an alternative national party will be viable. For now, we will continue to support progressives who have a real chance at winning elections, which usually means left-wing Democrats."

I believe this to be true. The Demorats are evil Commie pigs and should be tried for treason.


29 posted on 12/02/2006 12:23:11 PM PST by do the dhue (How come the Demorats have not fixed Iraq yet? They're inept!! Vote 'em out!!)
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To: hosepipe
Here is another one. India used to be back by the Former Soviet Union. Now, a lot of our jobs are going to India. India is moving away from the old way.
30 posted on 12/02/2006 12:28:17 PM PST by do the dhue (How come the Demorats have not fixed Iraq yet? They're inept!! Vote 'em out!!)
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To: Thumper1960
The following site has a list of names, I don't know when the list was published:

http://www.sovereignty.net/center/socialists.htm


Congressional Members of the
Progressive Caucus

Rep Earl Hilliard (AL-07)
Rep Eni Faleomavaega (AS-AL)
Rep Ed Pastor (AZ-02)
Rep Lynn C Woolsey (CA-06)
Rep George Miller (CA-07)
Rep Nancy Pelosi (CA-08)
Rep Fortney "Pete" Stark (CA-13)
Rep Henry A. Waxman (CA-29)
Rep Xavier Becerra (CA-30)
Rep Julian C. Dixon (CA-32)
Rep Esteban Edward Torres (CA-34)
Rep Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Rep George E. Brown (CA-42)
Rep Bob Filner (CA-50)
Rep Diane DeGette (CO-01)
Rep Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC-AL)
Rep Corrine Brown (FL-03)
Rep Carrie P. Meek (FL-17)
Rep Alcee L. Hastings (FL-23)
Rep Cynthia A. McKinney (GA-04)
Rep John Lewis (GA-05)
Rep Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
Rep Patsy Mink (HI-02)
Rep Jesse Jackson (IL-02)
Rep Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
Rep Danny Davis (IL-07)
Rep Lane Evans (IL-17)
Rep Julia Carson (IN-10)
Rep John Olver (MA-01)
Rep Jim McGovern (MA-03)
Rep Barney Frank (MA-04)
Rep John Tierney (MA-06)
Rep David Bonior (MI-10)
Rep Lynn N. Rivers (MI-13)
Rep John Conyers (MI-14)
Rep Bennie G. Thompson (MS-02)
Rep Melvin L. Watt (NC-12)
Rep Donald Payne (NJ-10)
Rep Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
Rep Major Owens (NY-11)
Rep Nydia M. Velazquez (NY-12)
Rep Charles Rangel (NY-15)
Rep Maurice Hinchey (NY-26)
Rep John LaFalce (NY-29)
Rep Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Rep Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)
Rep Louis Stokes (OH-11)
Rep Sherrod Brown (OH-13)
Rep Elizabeth Furse (OR-01)
Rep Peter A. DeFazio (OR-04)
Rep Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
Rep William Coyne (PA-14)
Rep Carlos A. Romero-Barcelo (PR-AL)
Rep Robert C. Scott (VA-03)
Rep Bernard Sanders (VT-AL)
Rep James A. McDermott (WA-07)
31 posted on 12/02/2006 12:36:12 PM PST by do the dhue (How come the Demorats have not fixed Iraq yet? They're inept!! Vote 'em out!!)
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To: do the dhue

Reading Whitaker Chambers "Witness" is also a help


32 posted on 12/02/2006 12:57:42 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: ballplayer
Thanks, I'll check it out.


33 posted on 12/02/2006 1:03:44 PM PST by do the dhue (How come the Demorats have not fixed Iraq yet? They're inept!! Vote 'em out!!)
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To: do the dhue
Back in the late '70's-early '80's, when I was more familiar with the radical Left, there were so many unionists and Demoncrats involved in certain programs and protests that it was hard to really know what the very Liberal Demoncrats were: just liberals or dyed in the wool Socialists.

I am certain that today there are very radical elements of the Communist/Socialist movements heavily involved in programs and policies that the Demoncrat Party is pursuing.I am convinced that the recognized Demoncrat Party members who are either in, or closely allied with, the so-called Progressive Caucus (PC) are dancing on the very edge of subversion and treason to the government and Constitution of the US.

I knew I had seen the list displayed prominently on the DSA website some time ago. The fact that so many found out about the connections and the pulling of the open link shows me that the "PC" wishes to remain in the shadows as to what beliefs and agendas they really harbor.

34 posted on 12/02/2006 8:59:07 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: do the dhue

First Joe McCarthy was a FDR Rat He only switched parties to get elected. That being said:

Secrets, Lies, and Atomic Spies,.....Or... Joe McCarthy was more right than he ever knew
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/622675/posts


35 posted on 12/03/2006 1:17:23 AM PST by quietolong
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To: do the dhue

"If they come for your gun, just squeeze the trigger."

That is just what I will do though not on myself. Those that come after my weapons will have to do that.


36 posted on 12/03/2006 8:10:26 AM PST by JOE43270 (`)
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To: quietolong; Thumper1960
I just saw on FOXNews that Briton is riddled with Russian spies right now. They said there are more spies there now then there were during the Cold War.

I don't believe the Cold War to be dead. These people are still active. McCarthy said the CPUSA was under complete control of Moscow. I believe they are still loyal to the Commies in Moscow. I am sure they are not loyal to our Conservative way of life.

Yes, I believe think Moscow has influenced and/or infiltrated our parts of our Media, some University, parts of the Judicial Branch, one of our Political Party's, and almost all of Commiewood.
37 posted on 12/03/2006 8:15:49 AM PST by do the dhue (How come the Demorats have not fixed Iraq yet? They're inept!! Vote 'em out!!)
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To: PLMerite

I wish, for clinton's impeachment, we'd had a different take: "Treason's the Reason."


38 posted on 12/03/2006 8:17:47 AM PST by bannie
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To: do the dhue

The problem with McCarthy was the "list of names" in his pocket thing. It was a bluff, he didn't have the list. He was like a runaway prosecutor who knew the defendent was guilty, but didn't have the facts to back him up. Do you cheer the prosecutor for knowing the guy was guilty, or do you blame him for his behavior in trying to prove his case without all the foundation. That is what historians will decide.


39 posted on 12/03/2006 8:20:37 AM PST by dogbyte12
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To: bannie
How about this take?

It's the Treason, stupid!
40 posted on 12/03/2006 8:43:47 AM PST by do the dhue (How come the Demorats have not fixed Iraq yet? They're inept!! Vote 'em out!!)
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