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Gates Says U.S. Is Not Winning Iraq War
AP via Drudge ^ | Dec 5, 10:45 AM (ET) | ROBERT BURNS

Posted on 12/05/2006 7:51:51 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe

Edited on 12/05/2006 8:08:27 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Lunatic Fringe

Put a fork in us, we're done.

He also just told Senator Bird (blech) that the President does not have the right to go into Syria or Iran, and that Bob Gates has no intention of going into Syria, and we shouldn't go into Iran either. Oh he also stated that Iran cannot militarily attack us.

With this nom, GW has brought to reality what the Dims have long wanted. Defeat.

God have mercy on us all.


21 posted on 12/05/2006 8:06:57 AM PST by RobinWWJD
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To: DTogo
He's right, we are not winning - because Washington won't let our military win.

Gates is right. We're not winning, but our military is doing the best they possibly can under the ridiculous position in which they have been placed. If Bush finally unleashes the full might of the military against the terrorists in Iraq, then we will be winning.

22 posted on 12/05/2006 8:07:25 AM PST by pnh102
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To: slowhand520

We are not winning. We won the war but we haven't won the battle. We need a new strategy, not to lose, not to fight this thing to a draw, we need a winning strategy.


23 posted on 12/05/2006 8:09:02 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: RobinWWJD
He also just told Senator Bird (blech) that the President does not have the right to go into Syria or Iran, and that Bob Gates has no intention of going into Syria, and we shouldn't go into Iran either. Oh he also stated that Iran cannot militarily attack us

Thanks
24 posted on 12/05/2006 8:10:10 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Lunatic Fringe
We will win the war when we take the handcuffs off our troops and let them do WHAT EVER THEY NEED TO TO WIN. Perhaps this guy sees it like that. We aren't "Winning" but we aren't losing either. Take the restrictions off the Forces and LET them do their JOBS! Then we will win!
25 posted on 12/05/2006 8:10:44 AM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: All

Let me know when they start drafting 54 year olds to fight in Iraq.


26 posted on 12/05/2006 8:11:14 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: RetiredArmy

The senator asked him one question, as if he was cross-examining Gates. He answered it. Read the whole article, Gates is not throwing in the towel.


27 posted on 12/05/2006 8:12:11 AM PST by rabidralph (Merry Christmas, y'all!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe; freema; smoothsailing; Just A Nobody

Well, he is also virtually taking military action OFF THE TABLE in respect to Iran and Syria. HE SIMPLY SEEMS TO BE A PACIFIST! How can he say this without all the information? Not a good move. Pres should retract his nomination, period! I missed much of his testimony, but it as reported above, he is likely to recommend withdrawal from Iraq also. Mr President, dump him!


28 posted on 12/05/2006 8:12:13 AM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! NOW.... PLEASE CONTINUE ON TO VICTORY!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

We are not losing to the terrorists - We ae losing to traitors.


29 posted on 12/05/2006 8:14:23 AM PST by Lexington Green
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To: Lunatic Fringe

He SHOULD have said.....

We're not winning here at home.

Thanks democrats.


30 posted on 12/05/2006 8:14:59 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: W04Man
Tell me this is some sort of strategery...please! Tell me he's going to pull the nomination and go with another Rummy.
31 posted on 12/05/2006 8:15:52 AM PST by Miss Didi
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To: pnh102

Exactly! Shame on Washington - both the White House and Congress!


32 posted on 12/05/2006 8:17:42 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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Sic him, Bushbots.

But save your strength, you're going to have a couple of very rough years.


33 posted on 12/05/2006 8:18:31 AM PST by Sabramerican (Says the piano player: America's greatest legacy will be to create a Palestinian State)
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To: Kerretarded

I've deducted this through military reports, media reports, free republic, the recent election, the talk of pulling out, the PC war we are fighting....any other questions?


34 posted on 12/05/2006 8:21:21 AM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: RobinWWJD

Bob Gates will not be the one making the decisions about attacks on Iran or Syria. He is not the President.


35 posted on 12/05/2006 8:22:20 AM PST by fschmieg
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To: rabidralph

Read the article...How about watching this live as I am. This guy needs to go back to A&M ...

More and more the US is turning into that frog in the pot of water that has the fire under it. Are you feeling warm yet? I am.


36 posted on 12/05/2006 8:22:22 AM PST by RobinWWJD
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To: VRWCmember
I wouldn't characterize the current situation as "winning".

I guess I have entered the gray area of nuance. Please enlighten me on how "not winning" does not equal losing. Is there some squishy middle? IMO, I would say that we are succeeding, but we have not completed the mission. What is the mission? An Iraq that can stand on its own two feet.

You people here on FR that are so "short-term solution oriented" need to look back at history. Missions such as this one take years if not decades.

Another big part of this that MANY of you are missing is the mental aspect. If the troops in the field, both Americans and Iraqis, keep hearing American figure heads say that we are not winning, we will NOT win. For example, if you are a coach, you do not tell your team in the middle of a game, "Hey losers, you are losing. In fact you have lost. You may as well quit the game." To continue to say that they are winning is as much inspiration as anything else. The game is not over and to announce in the middle of it that you have lost is the WORST thing to do.
37 posted on 12/05/2006 8:22:59 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Sorry soldiers.....your country let you down on November 7.)
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To: RobinWWJD

If that is what he said, it is a pretty sad situation indeed. Next step will be the terrorists rushing into schools, homes, and shopping malls.


38 posted on 12/05/2006 8:23:03 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Blue Turtle

Go long or go home. We are going home, another war where the soldiers won but we lost.


39 posted on 12/05/2006 8:26:15 AM PST by italianquaker (Democrats its time to fish or cut bait, no more blaming Prez Bush.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

This war,or any war for that matter, "IS'NT A PRIMETIME MINI-SERIES" those clowns in Washington, along with all the assorted armchair generals out there in TV Land, need to quite their bellyaching, and get serious about WINNING.
that means REALLY SUPPORT THE TROOPS, and quite worrying about what the ENEMY thinks. GEEEEZ!!!


40 posted on 12/05/2006 8:26:47 AM PST by Msgt USMC
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