Posted on 12/12/2006 9:03:56 AM PST by Blue Scourge
Well, I see everyone has their own opinion on what we should do in Iraq. So I figured I'd start a central thread for all ideas, comments, and debate.
If the Mods don't like it, or think it's no good than they can delete it.
Well, since I'm not part of the Government, and don't have my own army, I guess I'll have to sit this one out.
Send in 10 more batallions, and crush the terrorists into dust.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/iraq_strategy_nov2005.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Security_Force
Why should we do anything? The UN has everything under control. Hell I never like going to bed without any dinner. Sure did teach me a lesson.
fricken zoomies.
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Open up a can of U.S. whoop ass like we used to do.
Ping!
Feel free to ping anyone you want, I want this to be a big thread.
Park satellites above the border and catch the terrorists coming and going along with their supplies of weapons. Station Iraqi soldiers there and take them out as they slither in.
Move all of our bases in Saudi Arabia to Iraq, and tell the House of Saud to "F Off!"
Damn Squids!
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Kick the hell out of Syria and Iran.
Let them kill each other, while we loom like vultures on the sidelines from Kuwait and Saudi. With our military, invading the country is the easy part. Terrorists try to set up camp or install a hostile government, we smack them down in 48 hours. 2 hours if we only need to flatten the country from air.
They want to stop the killing, they have to learn to live with each other. If they can't manage to do that, they're responsibile for building their own hell. We've spent long enough hand-holding and babysitting.
"Move all of our bases in Saudi Arabia to Iraq, and tell the House of Saud to "F Off!""
Didn't that already happen?
And make sure it gets put on youtube otherwise the sheeple wont believe it. lol
I sell tires for a national distributor.
I haven't the slightest clue about foreign policy. I have no idea what should be done.
I don't expect the President to tell me how to sell tires, so I don't tell him how to run a country.
bomb everyone and let god sort it out
Nope. Not gonna happen.
That would hurt their feeeeeeelings.
That's the first step ... the powers that be need to grow a pair and fight a war like war needs to be fought.
Step two is to decided if we want Iraq whole or in three seperate states. If the first option, we need to install a pro U.S. strongman and forget all the pie in the sky ideals and stuff and deal with the reality of the situation. Much like the old Yugoslavia and Iraq, when you've got a state with ethic issues, you need a strongman like Saddam or Tito to run the place with an iron fist. Find one and let him do his thing ... it won't be pretty, but it'll get the job done. If the second, we need to "manage" the disentrigration so Iraq doens't spiral into 10 or so years of ethic wars like Yugoslavia did.
Otherwise, we still need to try the Iraq armed forces and police units regardless, they need to be able to carry on the fight, regardless of which option. If the later, we end up training three seperate entities (Kurd, Shia, Sunni) instead of one.
Look, I'm not here to tell the President or anybody in the government how to do their job, but I know there are intelligent people on this board and I wanted their opinions on the situation and what they think should be done.
Read the riot act to Syria and Iran -- hit them hard if they don't comply.
My original contention was that we should have approached the reluctant "allies" like the French to send in Police forces for the occupation after battle, since they were so unwilling to engage in the fighting. It was easy to see that we'd need as many folks in police and nurse's uniforms as we would in US Army unitorms in order to establish a democracy in the middle east. But, since we didn't follow that line of approach, we now have a civil war on our hands. If we were to set our sights again on the police/nurse approach, we might still be able to pull this one off. I think we won the war in Iraq; we just haven't won the peace.
I also think we should simply divide the country. The Kurds deserve their own country, they've proven to be good allies. We could work with them to carve out a section of Iraq, set their sights on carving some territory out of Iran, and then when they're done with that, we can help "negotiate" with our other "allies", the Turks, to secure Kurdish autonomy in what presently eastern Turkey.
That leaves the Sunnis and Shiites to divide up what's left. We would occupy the areas between the two warring factions. Also, the UN/US should occupy the oil-producing regions and parcel out the revenue according to whatever plan they come up with. That gives all the sides something to argue about rather than shooting at us.
Ping to Post #12. ;-)
Flush!
Nuke everyone.
Osama admits that hundreds, if not thousands, of terrorists have infiltrated Iraq from all over the Middle East - World to stop us from winning in Iraq.
With such a "Target Rich" zone of combatants, I think we should admit the ineveitable civilian casualties, pull our troops out, and just "Nuke it from orbit - it is the only way to make sure."
I totally agree. Would that the powers that be agreed as well.
We send the US troops to guard the borders, particularly to prevent the influx of more terrorists from Iran and Syria, then turn to the government in Baghdad and say we are doing our part, now you get control over the situation.
it's already decided - the Democrats are in control of handling the withdrawal now and will be for the near future. Iraq will ally with Iran and face off against the Saudis in a few years.
I think we should destroy Ancient Babylon (Iraq) just in case Ahmadinejad is fighting to bring the Apocapalyse through a Holy war,
or.....
Destroy Ancient Babylon just in case Ahmadinejad is trying to rebuild the caliphate,(Iraq being the historical capital).
In other words, I'm cool with staying the course.
Carve Kurdistan out of Iraq and Iran, and ally it with Turkey..take over the Sunni triangle and give it to the turkmen, Assyrians, and Chaldeans...let the Shia know what happens to our enemies, and assure them that if they don't play nice we know where they live.
Old Guard has nailed it. The only amendment I would make is to built a Ramstein-type American airbase in Kurdistan (the Kurds have invited us to do it.) That will control the air space for the whole region and scare the daylights out of Iran and Syria. As for the Iraqis, let the Shiites and Sunnis fight it out among themselves. It's dumb to try to stand between them.
Nice "Aliens" refrence.
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Sell it on eBay.
Only solution is to go back in time DeLorean-style and win the mid-term elections. Iraq's fate was decided this past November. It's done - it'll be handed over to a Saudi-Iran fight for influence and power there.
Only problem with your theory is that Turkey would alley with a Kurdish state. I agree they should make one, but we would need to be clear to both Turkey and the Kurds that any provocation on either side is a big no no.
Only problem with your theory is that Turkey would alley with a Kurdish state. I agree they should make one, but we would need to be clear to both Turkey and the Kurds that any provocation on either side is a big no no.
First we need to take out...kill...the Sader army...the Iman dude....all 200,000 and their friends and relatives...this will send the message we are firm......surround the city....bring in the 155's...and fire away.....then bring in the civies...and make a park...
I want to hear Osama say:
"Now we're totally screwed. That's it, game over!"
We need to stop screwing around and put this nation on a true war footing. While events similar to 1938 play themselves out in the Middle East, our leaders seem obliged to bury theirs heads in the sand and act like it's only a regional problem. The problem is, though, that is it's global - and it's already started. Iraq is just a campaign in a bigger war that many Americans have to yet to fully understand and that the Administration seems hesitant to verbalize.
When we see car manufacturers being tasked to build equipment, when we see enlistment goals being pushed above 100,000 and when we see the nation's citizens being asked to sacrifice for the nation, then, and only then, will we know we're in this for the long haul. Anything else is a charade.
scorched earth..
"bomb everyone and let god sort it out"
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But that's so, so, so....BARBARIC! (LOL)
Were you pinged on this one? I´m sure you have a few ideas! ;)
-change the Rules of Engagement
-Broker and pressure an Iraqi Government that is willing to
crush Sadr
-Stop any border-crossing from Syria, Iran and Saudi-Arabia
-Bomb Iran's regime, WMD's and Military facilities
-Kill Assad
-Kill Nasrallah
-Fortify Kurdistan
-Move secular and christian Iraqis to Kurdistan
-Fortify Kurdistan even more
-Give Sunnis and Shias quasi-authonomous entities in Iraq
-distribute the oil wealth between all factions
-stay in fortified bases in Iraq for the next decades to ensure lasting presence
-use our presence to quell ANY terrorist/WMD threat in the region without hesistation
ok, ok forget scorched earth
time to go old testament on 'em.
Given that most of the ideas thus far range from 'let them kill each other off' to 'Nuke them from orbit', I'd say you're not the only one. ;-)
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