Probably. After all he's been grooming them for years to 'go along to get along' with the leadership. His whole system is geared toward "following the leader" and "putting aside differences" to have Unity.
Posted on 12/14/2006 11:48:10 AM PST by jodiluvshoes
Members of the congregation at Saddleback Church, the church led by Rick Warren, are evidently being ushered right out of membership for voicing any concern over the idea of Barack Obama being allowed to speak at the church recently.
I received a lengthy letter from a member of Saddleback this morning that confirmed as much:
(Excerpt) Read more at kevinmccullough.townhall.com ...
SHHH! He doesn't want anyone to know that!
The SBC is undergoing its own turbulence because some people are concerned about their endorsement of Rick Warren and many false teachings, contemplative prayer etc., things like the Emergent Church making inroads into the SBC.
I am losing more respect for Rick Warren with each passing day. If he can't take criticism, then he needs to get out of public life.
Email Kevin McCullough at the original article. He linked to some excerpts from the email. For obvious reasons, the submitter of the email has wanted to remain anonymous. But I imagine it's possible he would be the only one who could verify the email.
Joseph Farah at worldnetdaily has had a running tiff with Warren too since the Obama/Syria things, and he has been in correspondence with a Saddleback member expressing similar concerns.
You lookin' fer a fight?... :-) Let's hope it isn't the Message!
Your story is being told all over Christendom, with different characters and more often, minus some of the details (e.g. such as the affair or other blatantly obvious sins).
You posted that for...what reason? Sojourners likes him, that's reason enough to disown his 'spiritual journey.'
http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=news.display_article&mode=S&NewsID=5469
Probably. After all he's been grooming them for years to 'go along to get along' with the leadership. His whole system is geared toward "following the leader" and "putting aside differences" to have Unity.
Baptist ping....
Rick you ought to be ashamed! You also ought to be removed from the position of pastor imo.
So what happens if you have legitimate concerns over the direction of the church and they blacklist you for that?
Did you read the article from the WSJ on Sept 5?
Strategy for church growth splits congregants
Not sure what it's from. I was thinking it had the message type wording
But this is that passage in tm
Matthew 15:8 These people make a big show of saying the right thing, but their heart isn't in it.
Matthew 15:9 They act like they're worshiping me, but they don't mean it. They just use me as a cover for teaching whatever suits their fancy."
A little ironic. :)
"n So. Baptist churches, when a person that is a member of one church wishes to "move" their membership, the new church is notified if there has been problems with the former member. This is not a new practice."
LOL Not in any of the ones I've ever been a member of or associated with!
Au Contraire, I think a big ego is a prerequisite for leadership in the Evangelical Covenant. This false doctrine has all but taken over that denomination. The sheep are mostly sleeping (and being booted out if they wake up and try to warn the rest) and more falsehood is flooding in under the guise of 'freedom in Christ.'
Sexuality will be rehashed AGAIN at the next Annual Meeting (e.g. people are trying to wear everyone down to accepting something other than the conservative defintion of acceptable sexuality that they already have) and a few up and comers are starting to whine about the Covenant's current stance on abortion. With the other false teachings entering the church and the prideful pastors and denominational leadership they already have in place, it's only a matter of time.
See, I don't understand that. I would tell them, and I would also get rid of him and help him find work at the local Walmart.
Go pursue your purpose elsewhere? The cult of Warren... But you know, this isn't surprising. Things like this do happen in smaller congregations all the time - pastors who intimate, "My way or go find somewhere else." are nothing new.
marking
Brokeback Church?
John Macarthur's church isn't too far, so I hear...
Can you name them?
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BINGO!!!
Have you read Bob DeWaay's Excellent book? "Redefining Christianity." Also Gary Gilley's "This Little Church Went To Market" and "This Little Church Stayed Home."
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