Posted on 12/14/2006 4:17:40 PM PST by Lorianne
FOR THE first time, the number of people moving out of California outnumbered those moving in -- during a supposed economic expansion. It isn't over yet, either -- demographers expect this trend to continue, probably for several years.
The loss isn't a large one. The California Department of Finance recorded a net loss of about 29,000 people from 2004-05, and it expects that the numbers for 2005-06 will be comparable. But it does cut across most ethnic groups -- whites, Latinos and African Americans, with only Asians showing a net gain -- and has hit families particularly hard, if faster-than-predicted school enrollment declines are to be believed.
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let's spread some more of those illegal aliens around the other 49 states then.
This trend is verified by the U-Haul index, the difference in the price paid for a rental truck leaving California versus what you pay to drive a U-Haul to California. It's a barometer of supply and demand as well as incentives and penalties necessary to keep a supply of trucks available at all locations.
San Francisco to Las Vegas $757
Las Vegas to San Francisco $313
San Francisco to Portland $1483
Portland to San Francisco $199
San Francisco to Seattle $1648
Seattle to San Francisco $353
San Francisco to Phoenix $1669
Phoenix to San Francisco $131
San Francisco to Albuquerque $2277
Albuquerque to San Francisco $716
San Francisco to Boise $2557
Boise to San Francisco $199
You reap what you sow. You folks elected the socialists---live with it!!
The little educator from Berkeley just HAD to take a cheap shot at Detroit. Hey, we're in bad shape but we're not as bad as Detroit! What a jerk.
yes, it IS dreadful .. they're moving to and changing the demographics in OR/WA/AZ/NV, etc. Let them all stay in one place and enjoy Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein, instead of spreading the wealth to other states.
There's still a few conservative strongholds here in California. I moved from Long Beach to a little town half way up the state, nestled up against the Sierra Nevada Mountains. I DREAD it every time I find some reason why I have to go back, even if it's for a day. When my wife goes down there to visit family I invariably get "the call", where she's sitting on the San Diego Parking Lot (405 Fwy) and crying out her frustrations over how HHOORRIIBBLLEE the traffic is.
I only go back if I have a really important client who absolutely requires my personal help..... or my wife makes me go! :)
I had a friend with an MA in urban planning from University of Illinois (I think). He said that Detroit was pretty much used as the example for what not to do in most of his classes. To be fair, planning for explosive growth is always difficult.
Taxpayers movin out......... tax users movin in.
Cary, North Carolina. Containment Area for Relocated Yankees.
This is a big problem with people "voting with their feet." And it applies both the migrants between states and immigrants coming into the U.S.
People in California and Mexico know that things suck where they live and that things are better elsewhere. But they have no clue WHY things are that way.
You know why things suck in Mexico? Mexicans. You know why things suck in California? Californians.
Unfortunately people are least likely to see themselves as being the problem. They don't realize the socialist/statist policies they support cause misery and that the free market causes prosperity.
So when they arrive at their new homes they vote for the politicans who promise them the biggest government goodies. They don't realize they are importing the exactly kind of policies the wrecked where they came from.
we're getting them in VA, too :(
That's a pretty vile part of the trip when I'm making the drive between Pocatello and San Diego. Burning eyes and coughing from the north end of Temecula to the point where I-15/I-215 rejoin on the way up Cajon Pass.
I expect that this is not a temporary blip, but the beginning of a trend.
What does one do for a living where they can simply pack up and move to a small town? This kind of thing tempts me but I'm afraid that I'd go from a very good income as a professional, able to save for retirement, etc., to a job where I barely get by. It's a pretty scary thought for someone mid-career (roughly your age). Of course no amount of money is worth it if where you live makes you miserable.
Those are our moderately conservative types. The liberals aren't moving out. ;)
I'm not sure that it's so difficult. I've sat on many (volunteer) commissions, boards, etc., for State Highway, the County Executive, etc., here in Montgomery County - an ultra-liberal/socialist D.C. suburb. What I've found is that the planning was done very well in the beginning. Reasonable roads, etc., for the development. Then the moron politicians cancel the roads each time a community group shows up yelling NOT IN OUR BACKYARD. Also, the council members are always wanting more campaign money (developers have plenty), so they go and re-zone parcels of land for high-rise buildings (many cars) without making sure that the roads are adequate to get the cars to and from the buildings.
people moving out of California outnumbered those moving in
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Depends on where you live in California. I love California, retired 5 years ago and moved out of San Francisco to the southern Cal desert. Once out of SF I was a happy camper again and wouldn't think of leaving the state. We have water, beaches, mountains, desert, lots to do and beauty everywhere. Just avoid the marxist areas.
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