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New Mexico Lawmaker Floats Re-redistricting Wilson Seat [Heather Wilson being redistricted out]
Roll Call ^ | 12/14/06 | Josh Kurtz

Posted on 12/16/2006 9:28:43 AM PST by Alter Kaker

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To: fieldmarshaldj

We also control the Senate in NY.


61 posted on 12/16/2006 9:22:30 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: AntiGuv

Well, the Dems got one seat this year (in Yonkers) to take the margin down from 35-27 to 34-28 and nearly got a couple of others (though this was a bad year for the NYGOP; it'll probably get worse, but that's not unexpected). It'll probably happen one of these days, though the Dems have been waiting nearly over 30 years now for it.

The Republicans still control every State Senate seat in Nassau and Suffolk County and two in Queens (which I sometimes find hard to believe) and NY just loves to re-elect its incumbents. When they retire, you'll probably see the switch, obviously. We'll see it that happens before 2010.


62 posted on 12/16/2006 9:26:43 PM PST by Sam Spade
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To: Torie

Oh, ok then. I would agree with that. Though I doubt that seat opens up for a while.


63 posted on 12/16/2006 9:30:52 PM PST by Sam Spade
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To: California Patriot

Democrats pretty much can't win additional seat in Maryland and they niether Mollahan nor Rahall want to give up counties in West Virginia (which should easily go Republican in 2008).


64 posted on 12/16/2006 9:34:50 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: crasher

Then ninth NY Bush district was Tim Bishop's NY-01 district but I didn't count that as an inherently GOP district because it was 49.36% Bush over 48.71% Kerry - so I consider that a pure Toss Up.

I don't really have a problem with the rest of your reply. To begin with, I rather doubt the NY Senate will go Dem so that makes the entire question moot.


65 posted on 12/16/2006 9:36:47 PM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: Clintonfatigued

If Mark Kirk ran against Durbin, he'd lose and we'd lose the House seat. Great idea!


66 posted on 12/16/2006 9:40:26 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: LdSentinal

Probably true. Incumbents are always hard to deal with in these situations. And MD Republicans are concentrated, I believe, in the western mountains and the Eastern Shore.
They might be able to redraw the map, or they might not. It wouldn't be easy. Or I assume it wouldn't.


67 posted on 12/16/2006 10:01:17 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: AntiGuv
In order to lose its 15th seat Michigan would have to drop about 800,000 people off its projected 2010 population

How do you figure that? It looks to me that if they have 9,000 fewer people per seat, or approximately 135,000 fewer than projected statewide, then their 15th seat represents about 709,500 and it doesn't make it. What's wrong with my math?
68 posted on 12/16/2006 10:07:43 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory; fieldmarshaldj
You're right; I erred. 800,000 is about how much Michigan would have to fall short of projections to lose its 14th seat. Michigan would need to fall short just around 150,000 to lose the 15th seat, so obviously that's far more plausible.
69 posted on 12/16/2006 10:24:08 PM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: AntiGuv

Richmond County is growing in population close to the national average, unlike the state of New York as a whole. Any further penetration into Brooklyn will be marginal for the Fosella seat. The Dems might add a few Orthodox Jewish precincts, that they find annoying.


70 posted on 12/16/2006 10:24:08 PM PST by Torie
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To: HostileTerritory; fieldmarshaldj
To be more precise, and thorough, here are the numbers.

Michigan's projected 2010 population is 10,428,683.

In order to lose the 15th seat then, if all other U.S. Census projections were accurate, the priority value for MI-15 would have to be less than the priority value for AL-07, which is the first seat out.

The projected AL-07 priority value is 709229.

The 15th seat multiplier is 0.0690065559.

709228 divided by 0.0690065559 equals 10,277,690.

So, Michigan would need to fall short 150,993 in order to lose the 15th seat (based on current 2010 projections).

BTW, that would represent a 3.4% growth rate for the decade versus a projected 4.9% growth rate. That 3.4% might very well be much closer to the mark considering the official U.S. Census estimate of Michigan's growth from 2000 through 2005 is 1.8% - thus pointing toward about 3.6% for the decade.

71 posted on 12/16/2006 10:36:17 PM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: Torie; crasher; fieldmarshaldj

I just checked - and you're right: Richmond County is indeed growing at well above the state average (4.7% since 2000 versus 1.5% for New York State). So, it's true the NY-13 seat should be fairly secure in 2010. That's strike two for me! Time to call it a night..


72 posted on 12/16/2006 10:40:16 PM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

great burritos at the little store / gas station though...


73 posted on 12/16/2006 10:42:49 PM PST by rahbert
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To: AntiGuv

I'd definitely expect MI to lose a seat. The state is practically in a Depression, so I'd predict very static (at best) or negative growth, and it's going to get worse before it turns around (and that won't happen on Granholm's watch). No way on Earth is it going to gain 300k more people between 2005-2010. 10.4+ million presumes it will grow almost like it did in the '90s. Anyone on the ground will tell you that's not happening. Then, of course, they might try to "pad" Detroit's dubious figures.


74 posted on 12/16/2006 10:50:22 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: AntiGuv

Well, even with respectable growth, if NY sheds 2 or 3 seats, the seat will have to be augmented regardless, along with all the rest.


75 posted on 12/16/2006 10:52:27 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith; rahbert

I can't fault the folks there in T.A. for being friendly. I got out to take some photos of the place and a custodian for the county (middle-aged Hispanic fella) said, "Now, you make our courthouse look good !"


76 posted on 12/16/2006 11:33:11 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Alter Kaker
New Mexico Democrats, frustrated by their inability to defeat Rep. Heather Wilson (R-N.M.), now are openly talking about redrawing the state’s Congressional district boundaries prior to the 2008 elections.

When they remove all the whites from her district to defeat her, don't expect the Supreme Court to rule that this is racially unfair as they did with Henry Bonilla's district. Racism is a one-way street for honkies only.

77 posted on 12/17/2006 4:52:07 AM PST by montag813
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Cogadh na Sith

TA (as the locals call it) is a commuter town for people that work in places like Chama and Dulce, and as such, it is an extension of the Jicarilla Apache reservation.

That part of the state is breathtakingly beautiful, and at the same time tragically impoverished. In that respect it's kind of a microcosm of the whole state of New Mexico.


78 posted on 12/17/2006 8:21:14 AM PST by Disambiguator (This tagline is brought to you by the letter "S" with a slash in front of it.)
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To: crasher; Torie

BTW, with regard to the Time Person of the Year the obvious choice, in terms of which figure was the most influential toward the course of the year's events is clearly Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Not only because of Iran's nuclear ambitions but also because of his central role with the events in the Palestinian territories, in Lebanon, arguably in Afghanistan, indirectly with N. Korea & Venezuela, and above all else in Iraq - the latter of which also makes him perhaps the cardinal figure in the Democrats' return to power. So, yeah, Time went for the cop out. Whatever.

Now back to my PotY acceptance speech!! :)


79 posted on 12/17/2006 12:01:45 PM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: AntiGuv
Your projected seat gains in the Sunbelt states should really be simplified to read

Mexico +10

80 posted on 12/17/2006 12:47:17 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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