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New York Village Would Rather Remove 9-Foot Menorah than Allow Nativity Scene
Life Site News ^ | 12.19.06 | JORGE FITZ-GIBBON

Posted on 12/20/2006 4:54:27 PM PST by Coleus

BRIARCLIFF MANOR, N.Y., December 20, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Village of Briarcliff Manor officials have decided to remove their entire holiday display, including a 9-foot-tall menorah, from a public park rather than allow a resident to add a crèche after Alliance Defense Fund attorneys and allied attorneys won a temporary restraining order Friday from a federal judge. The lawsuit and TRO motion were filed Dec. 11 after the Briarcliff Manor Village's Board of Trustees refused to permit the display.

"The village's constitutional violations regarding religious expression in public make them look like the grinches who stole Christmas and Chanukah from the citizens of Briarcliff Manor," said ADF-allied attorney John Stepanovich. "It is truly sad that officials have chosen not only to thumb their noses at religion but at the justice system as well, since our client's request of equal access for a privately-funded crèche in addition to the menorah was entirely constitutional."

In place of where the holiday display once stood, village officials displayed a sign criticizing U.S. District Judge William C. Conner's decision to grant the temporary restraining order. The federal court judge's decision forced officials to either remove the menorah or grant resident Henry Ritell's request to display a nativity scene alongside it.

The sign read, "The Village erected a menorah and Christmas tree display in a spirit of inclusion. In response to a federal court order the entire display has been removed. We disagree with the court." Following outcry from the public, village officials removed the sign.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aclumia; adf; antichristian; briarcliffmanor; brooklyn; catholic; chanukah; christmas; grinchstolechristmas; henryritell; jewish; menorah; nativityscene; religiousintolerance; waronchristmas; waronchristmas2006
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To: Coleus
Once upon a time, we used to celebrate the season.......now we litigate the season.

Lawyers without sensibilities should be fair game during the Big Game hunting season in October and November in NY. Thinning the herd benefits all.
121 posted on 12/20/2006 6:39:12 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Dov in Houston
Thank you...

And a happy and healthy new year to you and yours.
122 posted on 12/20/2006 6:39:22 PM PST by Coleus (Happy Chanukkah, Blessed are you, Lord, our God, sovereign of the universe)
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To: dr_who_2
St. Francis of Assisi and the Christmas Crèche
 

123 posted on 12/20/2006 6:40:19 PM PST by Coleus (Happy Chanukkah, Blessed are you, Lord, our God, sovereign of the universe)
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To: Cecily
In 333 BCE, Alexander the Great conquered Syria, Egypt and Palestine, and promoted a
Pale-what?
Do you mean the Second Commonwealth of Israel, which was a protectorate of Persia?
124 posted on 12/20/2006 6:40:56 PM PST by rmlew (Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
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To: Coleus
If overwhelmingly Jewish communities should be allowed to essentially ban a creche, Christian minority be damned (and I think they should be), then overwhelmingly Christian communities should be allowed to display the creche, everyone else be damned.

That's what Liberty means.

125 posted on 12/20/2006 6:41:14 PM PST by Jim Noble (To secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity)
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To: Coleus

Fascinating. And yet so irrelevant.


126 posted on 12/20/2006 6:41:47 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2

I thought you were out of here? It looks as though you love this thread.


127 posted on 12/20/2006 6:43:25 PM PST by Coleus (Happy Chanukkah, Blessed are you, Lord, our God, sovereign of the universe)
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To: Coleus

Yup.


128 posted on 12/20/2006 6:44:12 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: rmlew

I know. It's a loaded word in our days. Was the term used for Israel during the Second Temple period?

http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/meaning.html


129 posted on 12/20/2006 6:48:22 PM PST by Cecily
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To: packrat35
"This is stupid. How does suing get you want you want in this situation. "

The law is stupid.

The courts have ruled that if public officials allow a display by one religion they cannot exclude any other religion that wants to put up a display.
The courts won't change their ruling unless it is shown to be stupid-by these stupid suits.

"The law is an ass", you have to beat sense into it sometimes.

130 posted on 12/20/2006 6:56:32 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: muawiyah
The tree is not secular.

The tree is now a religion?

131 posted on 12/20/2006 7:01:29 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Alouette
I skipped those, I do the Holiday Tree threads.

You were right though, other than Ha'aertz, no one has picked the story up. It's as though it didn't happen.

132 posted on 12/20/2006 7:03:12 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: freedomdefender
I am sure Jesus celebrated Hanakka.

Not something I'm an authority on, but I think the Feast of Dedication referred to in John was Hanukah.

133 posted on 12/20/2006 7:07:29 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: Jorge

Yeah, probably part of some ancient pagan winter-solstice related shin-dig. But a lot of christians in the world do associate pine trees with one of the holidays on the christian calendar. I guess that means that evergreens everywhere should be cut down and burnt all over the country to prevent the establishment of religion.


134 posted on 12/20/2006 7:14:14 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: Jim Noble

I wouldn't go so far as to damn anybody. Not that I can, really. Or tell God what to do for that matter. Majoritarianism, putting everything up for a vote, is a dumb idea. The town or whoever might be abusing their power a little, but it seems to me that the people who have a legitimate complaint are the taxpayers who object to paying the court room electric bill for this fiasco to continue.


135 posted on 12/20/2006 7:20:05 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: Coleus

That is just a ridiculous argument. It is called a CHRISTmas tree, for heavens sake.


136 posted on 12/20/2006 7:23:10 PM PST by Bainbridge
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To: Coleus

It seems that this year is a pivtoal time for the transformation of the Christmas tree into a "religious symbol".


137 posted on 12/20/2006 7:24:50 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: gidget7

It is really an incredibly beautiful place, as is much of Westchester County. These places are quite old and have actual histories: not like the "made up" "communities" one finds in so much of our great land.


138 posted on 12/20/2006 7:26:47 PM PST by Bainbridge
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To: EDINVA

I lived there from 70 to 75 and they sure were not even close to pure "WASP" then..........


139 posted on 12/20/2006 7:28:54 PM PST by Bainbridge
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To: Dov in Houston
Thank you, and G-d ( is that right?) Bless you!
140 posted on 12/20/2006 7:33:03 PM PST by Bainbridge
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