Posted on 12/22/2006 11:53:58 AM PST by aculeus
Two things...
1. Out Mayor here accuses people like me who disagree with him of having Eccentric Orbital Rhythms all the time.
2. "Eccentric Orbital Rhythms" makes a really catchy name for a rock band...
An inconvenient truth.
Once again CO2 responds to earth cycles and not the other way around.
Eccentric describes Algore to a T.
How inconvenient for Algore.
On the front: MERRY CHRISTMAS
On the inside: Put out that damn Yule Log. It causes Global Warming
Source: Jay Leno
Except this sediment doesn't settle in nice neat, undisturbed layers. Ocean currents pile them up is some places, sweep them away in others, not to mention earth quakes and other catastrophic events that have happened over the centuries. There are huge deposits of methane ice off the coast of near every continent containing so much energy that it dwarfs that of all the worlds oil deposits. This stuff releases methane and co2 constantly, but for some reason it's never taken into account, nor is it's potential for alternative energy.
Methane Hydrates. Since the 1970s, methane has been discovered in ice lying on, or hundreds of feet below, the deep ocean floor off coastlines. The ice molecules form tiny cagelike structures containing one or more methane molecules. The total energy value of this methane-ice combination, called methane hydrate, may be twice that in all the worlds known coal, oil, and natural gas combined
Water will freeze at slightly warmer temperatures if it is under high pressure and contains dissolved methane. Such temperatures and pressures exist 2,000 feet or more below sea level. There, vast methane deposits are found trapped in ice on and under the deep sea floor, but primarily along coast lines. This methane is escaping into the atmosphere at a rate that would be dangerous if it continued for a million years or so. So obviously it isn't millions of years old. We'd all be dead.
The pacific floor is dished in, and the mid atlantic ridge pushes the sea floor up; it slopes from the coastlines down to a point that's deepest between the mid atlantic ridge and the coastlines. Wanna bet that sediment drifts slowly towards the deepest parts of these formations? Using core samples of this stuff as measurements of the earths age is just plain silly.
There is no way to predict how much is slides towards these centers a year or how many events have effected it, the rate at which this sediment is produced, that it was always constant, etc etc. What about so called continental drift?
Surely that moved it around a lot in 42 million years. Not to mention that we'd all be dead or very stoned from breathing all that methane gas released from the Methane Hydrate ice formations. There is no way that this stuff can be used to determine what the weather was at any point in history because of these underterminable variables.
Heiko Pälike had better head back to the guessing board if he wants to get more grant money. Surely he could have come up with something more believable than this. It can't be that hard.
If we dont oil the drive shaft once a week, Melmacs orbit will start to squeek.
And if we ever have an ocean inversion...well, hold your breath.
I think that depends on how many dinosuars are being supported on the orbital surface vs those that are turning into oil wells below the orbital plain.
Whatever you do, don't flick that bic!
Seriously, I wonder why that stuff isn't being explored as at the very least a very cheap natual gas supply? It would be better to burn it rather than it allowed to go to waste bubbling up and being released naturaly into the atmosphere.
I can only guess that it's being saved for "discovery" at a later time once big oil has extracted all they can from oil.
but doesn't that depend on the rate at which methane is removed from the atmopshere?
However...you make a good point, it is just the next energy supply, bugger all those peak oil idiots.
but doesn't that depend on the rate at which methane is removed from the atmopshere?
I really don't know. I haven't looked into this much other than reading about it once. I can only gather from this that methane is slowly building up in the atmosphere at a rate greater than the other gases to the point where it become toxic to us. Maybe our bodies will adapt and it won't bother us except when we try light up a smoke. Does it escape the atmosphere, or combine with other gasses and become something else? I thought only hydrogen was light enough to escape the earths gravity.
So.....it's not the Sun's fault ......it's the Earth's fault.......or the Solar system........or the galaxy
You mean "scientists" have only now figured out what makes "winter" in northern climates? In fact isn't today the earths max. tilt away from the sun at the north pole? (the shortest day of the year)
(I really don't buy this "shift" in the earths orbit around the sun changing from circular to elliptical and back again either. Maybe it's just the earths wobble stabliizing slowly, makes more sense.)
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