Earth's Climate Changes in Tune with Eccentric Orbital Rhythms

Scientific American.com ^ | December 22, 2006 | By David Biello

[Robert A Cook PE]

Darn

Somebody else wrote it down first.


Can I still claim to have thought of it first?

OK, now Death Valley is a little too far from the sea (got to be practical, ya) but the Salton Sea and Imperial Valley is low, and closer to the Gulf of California.

So, we import salt water from Mexico to the (new) salt flats instead of importing poor Mexicans, and then sell the power (a little bit) and evaporated salts for a prophet. And I fortell that CA will not want to do this ...)

[Robert A Cook PE]

Crash ice-filled comets into Mars. Sounds good. If we can steer comets into Mars then we should be able to steer them away from earth when need be,

(Crash them into Iran first to test the theory of bringing civilization to desert environments?)

[NicknamedBob]

No purpose to be served wasting icy comets on Iran.

Besides, the people of Iran are not our targets. What we need are those smart bees the Israelis are developing.

"May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your beard" takes on a new and personal menace when you consider that possibility.

The tricky part is collecting the specific DNA for targeting, and developing the targeting sensors.

We should open up Upper Class Sperm Donor Banks in Iran. Give them a hand with their suicidal tendencies, so to speak.

[patton]

Merry Christmas, my friends. Lol. the food is smelling good.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Well, you can't send mosquitos to a mid-desert landing site. ....

Well, for one generation I guess. Second generation might find it a bit dry though.

Now, abnout that box of ten billion no-see-ums imported from Alaska and Saschewannanananinainananann (never could tell when that province ended actually) into the Iran uclear test site.....

What will bee will bee,

[RightWhale]

The moon needs women ice comets.

[NicknamedBob]

"The moon needs women ice comets."

Why?

[RightWhale]

Oh, don't ask why. Just send icy comets and repeal the Treaty.

[NicknamedBob]

No problem. I still haven't figured out how to soft-land them, though.

And if it were up to me, the treaty would be as gone as the Soviet Union, START, and Krushchev's shoeshine.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Send women.

Let the comets will follow naturally?

(Are is that "Men are from Mars, Women come Mons de Venus.")

[NicknamedBob]

Comets don't follow women.

In fact, Comet and Cupid lead the pack, if I recall correctly. Of course, if you're Blitzen, the view never changes.

And you sound like you're blitzin'. Sampling the Christmas punch?


We need women on Mars. On the Moon, we need robots.

[cogitator]

Do these scientists have any reason to assume a constant rate of sedimentary addition for millions of years?

Magneto-stratigraphy defines the age boundaries for the sediments being studied.

[cogitator]

This methane is escaping into the atmosphere at a rate that would be dangerous if it continued for a million years or so. So obviously it isn't millions of years old. We'd all be dead.

Atmospheric methane oxidizes to CO2. Google phrase: "Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum" (PETM for short)

[cogitator]

Diatomaceous earth is silica (chalk); made out of diatoms. This article is about calcium carbonate sediments composed primarily of foraminifera.

[cogitator]

As CH4, it doesn't really decompose into anything.

See post 93. CH4 does convert to CO2 over time (decades) in the atmosphere. Summarized grabbed from Wikipedia:

"This is the case for methane. It is oxidized by reaction with naturally occurring hydroxyl radical, OH· and degraded to CO2 and water vapor at the end of a chain of reactions (the contribution of the CO2 from the oxidation of methane is not included in the methane GWP)." GWP = global warming potential

[cogitator]

Something else caused global climate change in the past.

Lots of things cause climate to change. Name your process.

[cogitator]

ALL THE MODELS I have seen about climate shows we are due for a mini if not maxi ice age.

A recent paper in Nature predicts that the current interglacial (this one) will last another 50,000 years. All three of the Milankovitch cycles have to superimpose negatively to cause an epochal hinge point.

Google the phrase "exceptionally long interglacial" -- I'm not sure which links will be accessible, so keep clicking.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Good info and updates to all. Thank you, and Merry Christmas this New Year.

[SunkenCiv]

The Real Inconvenient Truth About Global Warming: Skeptics Have Valid Arguments
Capitalism Magazine | December 19, 2006 | Tom DeWeese
Posted on 12/20/2006 10:46:46 PM EST by ancient_geezer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1756621/posts

[SunkenCiv]

Note: this topic is from December 22, 2006.

Heiko Pälike, a geologist at the National Oceanography Center in Southampton, England... and his colleagues went considerably further than that, pulling a sediment core from the depths of the Pacific that stretched back 42 million years. Limiting their analysis to the Oligocene -- a glacial time period that lasted between roughly 34 million and 23 million years ago--the researchers found that global climate responds to slight changes in the amount of sunlight hitting Earth during shifts in its orbit between elliptical and circular.

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