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New York population fails to grow since 2005 (NY to lose 2 electoral votes)
The Citizen ^ | 12/22/06

Posted on 12/22/2006 2:29:22 PM PST by LdSentinal

ALBANY - Thousands of people left New York for other parts of the country last year, making it one of only three states that failed to grow since 2005, according to census estimates released Friday.

New York's estimated population on July 1 was 19.3 million, a drop of 9,538 from a year earlier, the U.S. Census Bureau reported. That drop is minuscule - 0.0005 percent - and based on estimates rather than an actual count. But census demographers say it shows New York's population remained virtually unchanged over the year.

New York and other Northeast states have suffered for years as residents - often young people just out of college - head to the Southwest and other high-growth areas.

The new estimates provide evidence that is still happening: 255,766 more people moved out of New York to other states than into the state between 2005 and 2006. Part of that exodus can be attributed to immigrants who came into the country through New York City and then moved on, often to areas with a lower cost of living.

But Robert Ward of the Business Council of New York State said it can be partly attributed to people heading to Texas and other states that are growing jobs at a faster rate.

“People are moving elsewhere in search of opportunities that they're not finding in New York,” Ward said.

The Census did not provide geographic breakdowns Friday. But population losses and jobs have been particular problems in upstate New York. Gov.-elect Eliot Spitzer has promised to place the upstate economy high on his agenda after he takes office Jan. 1.

The only other states to post population losses were Katrina-ravaged Louisiana, Michigan and Rhode Island. The District of Columbia also lost people. New York's neighbors all recorded growth under 1 percent.

The Census reported that the Northeast grew by 62,000 people.

E.J. McMahon, director of the fiscally conservative Empire Center for New York State Policy, said that other Northeast states did not lose people at the same rate as New York. He said New York and other states that lost people quickly tended to have high living costs (like downstate) and sluggish economies (like upstate).

McMahon said those problems can be addressed through policies to spur economic growth, like lower taxes and fewer mandates in New York.

“You can't say 'We can't because it's cold and old,' because there are other cold and old places that are not shrinking like New York state.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: census; depopulation; immigration; liberal; migration; newyork; population; rustbelt
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NY will lose two electoral votes. Pennsylvania will lose one and perhaps two. Massachusetts is in the same boat. New Jersey is in danger of losing one electoral vote.

And it will only get worse now that Spizter will tax everything in the state except his hair, because he doesn't have any.

1 posted on 12/22/2006 2:29:28 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

You gotta love it. Younger people get edumacated at famous Northeastern universities and colleges and then leave for greener pastures.


2 posted on 12/22/2006 2:31:28 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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I just don't want them coming to where I live and trying to change our way of life. There's a bumper sticker I've seen that reads, "We Don't CARE How You Did It Up North".

Read it. Learn it. Don't forget it. And you'll be welcome.


3 posted on 12/22/2006 2:34:21 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: LdSentinal

LOL! Don't worry, Florida will pick up those electoral votes. The next census will make it offical.

and anyone who thinks that Florida is a "swing state" is drinking the Kool Aid.


4 posted on 12/22/2006 2:36:27 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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The Yankees are moving south and the illegals are moving north and they meet in Texas. Every time I go to town the traffic is worse and worse. My property taxes are skyrocketing because the land it being developed at such a phenomenal rate. My school taxes are out of this world because we can't build schools fast enough for the influx of newcomers. On the news just last night they talked about Texas being the fastest growing state. Someone forgot to send the email that we're filled up already.
5 posted on 12/22/2006 2:37:36 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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According to a link on Drudge, NYC had 88,891 abortions in 2005," WOW! What a big bunch of murderers abortionists are!


6 posted on 12/22/2006 2:37:43 PM PST by GinaLolaB
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" it can be partly attributed to people heading to Texas and other states that are growing jobs at a faster rate. "

Heading to Texas and other states that don't have state and city income taxes.

yitbos

7 posted on 12/22/2006 2:39:47 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bill1952

Florida will pick up two, maybe three. Georgia will pick up one and perhaps North Carolina. Arizona will get one, perhaps two. Nevada and Utah will get one additional.


8 posted on 12/22/2006 2:39:50 PM PST by LdSentinal
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two fewer democrat guaranteed seats.. Big deal..


9 posted on 12/22/2006 2:40:46 PM PST by newnhdad (They'll raise your taxes, grab your guns, look out wallet, here they come..)
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Two fewer guaranteed electoral votes for a Dem. Big deal indeed.


10 posted on 12/22/2006 2:43:05 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

Unfortunately, they're all moving to Virginia.


11 posted on 12/22/2006 2:43:12 PM PST by 3_wheeler (Freedom Isn't Free (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/conservative_americans))
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two fewer democrat guaranteed seats.. Big deal..

But if you multiply this by at least several of blue states...MA,PA,MI,IL,etc....and realize that red states will be picking these seats up and it starts to look better.

12 posted on 12/22/2006 2:46:05 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: LdSentinal

Hmmm, I wonder.....did the 88,000+ abortions in NYC have anything with the population drop?


13 posted on 12/22/2006 2:49:24 PM PST by dave48170
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To: Emmett McCarthy
I just don't want them coming to where I live and trying to change our way of life. There's a bumper sticker I've seen that reads, "We Don't CARE How You Did It Up North". Read it. Learn it. Don't forget it. And you'll be welcome.

That should be this countrys immigration policy for foreign nationals and Americans migrating within the country. Polite people with manners would respect that.

Don't bring what you ran away from to my home.

14 posted on 12/22/2006 2:49:31 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement (President DUNCAN HUNTER 2008! http://www.house.gov/hunter/border1.html)
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To: LdSentinal

Ah, you should've seen Brooklyn all the way up to the mid-1960's.

Everybody knew each other and got along. Few neighbors locked their doors, and stores had no security gates.

Since, it's become the opposite. NYC is predominantly occupied by non-assimilating foreigners and clowns from God Knows where who come off as New Yorkers after being in town two months. Native New Yorkers are a dying breed.


15 posted on 12/22/2006 2:52:26 PM PST by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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Katrina-ravaged Louisiana

Here in Florida we get ravaged by hurricanes on a regular basis but new residents continue to pile in and it hasn't even slowed them down.

I'm wondering how long Louisiana is going to exploit is 'victim' status".

16 posted on 12/22/2006 2:52:37 PM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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"[the population was] 19.3 million, a drop of 9,538 from a year earlier... That drop is minuscule - 0.0005 percent - and based on estimates rather than an actual count."
Behold the school of journalism graduate. Would someone please explain it to him [with a 2x4 to unstuck the buttons on his calculator] that 0.0005 is 0.5%. At least they are capable of managing a spell checker, which is wondrous and unbelievable.
17 posted on 12/22/2006 2:53:16 PM PST by GSlob
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0.5=0.05%. My own button got stuck.


18 posted on 12/22/2006 2:53:53 PM PST by GSlob
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To: mtbopfuyn

"The Yankees are moving south and the illegals are moving north and they meet in Texas. Every time I go to town the traffic is worse and worse. My property taxes are skyrocketing because the land it being developed at such a phenomenal rate. My school taxes are out of this world because we can't build schools fast enough for the influx of newcomers. On the news just last night they talked about Texas being the fastest growing state. Someone forgot to send the email that we're filled up already."



At least us Yankees (when we move south) pay our fair share of the tax burden. When we buy houses and get good jobs (on the books) we pay our own way, just as YOU do. The same can not be said of illegals.

We're also being swamped by illegals too up here in CT.

Each and every one of our major cities is a "sanctuary city".


19 posted on 12/22/2006 2:56:28 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: bruinbirdman

Yep. But there is more to it that that. Otherwise south dakota would be one of those that is growing like gangbusters. It isn't. They even pay a woman's child bearing expenses, and still can't grow the population. I think there is also no (or very little) property taxes there, and no state sales tax.(but city sales taxes in some areas)

I could be a little off on the taxes there, It's been a long time since I researched taxes. It seems to me the lowest 3 states for overall taxes was SD, NC, and TX. TN might have been in there too.

Jobs is a major factor for population growth..


20 posted on 12/22/2006 2:56:35 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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