Posted on 01/01/2007 8:04:50 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement
This is not good. The Bush administration kept saying they were being blocked at trying to reform social security. Doesn't seem to have stopped them from being able to give it away to foreign interests. I've got no problem with legal, hard working immigrants qualifying for SS. But illegals who come here under cover of darkness then try to glom onto SS, social services, taxpayer funded health care, welfare and crime should be prosecuted and deported.
"So, do you want Mexicans staying here to collect Social Security they have earned, or wouold you rather they went home when they want to?"
If they entered legally then let them stay. If they entered illegally kick them out after fining them all of the $$ they collected illegally.
Stop sending American dollars to other countries. They don't come back except as bonds to fund our debt.
If President Bush agrees with this and signs it, he is no better than the Al Quaeda terrorists who are trying to destroy this country. This shows the moral and ethical depths to which administrators of this country will go to keep the status quo for SS and retain their power and/or legacies.
If this is true, he is not the man I thought he was and it makes me sorry I ever voted for him....
JMO, they are tainted since they come from a lobbying group.
I think Watching should have been honest and not hide the fact that this "article" came from PR release from a lobbying group.
Well, you are mostly right, but not quite. There is a "Trust Fund". However, it's filled only with US government IOUs -- non-negotiable, non-tradeable special govt notes.
That's why the amnesty that the new Democrat congress with the help of a bunch of Republicans will send to the President to sign has that bizarre provision passed in the last Senate that illegals using stolen social security numbers and stolen identities of American citizens would be overlooked if they registered with the gov't.
Countries already having totalization agreements with the U.S.
The United States currently has Social Security agreements with Canada, Chile, South Korea, Australia and most of Western Europe.
Country | Effective Date | Country | Effective Date |
---|---|---|---|
Italy | November 1, 1978 | Portugal | August 1, 1989 |
Germany | December 1, 1979 | Netherlands | November 1, 1990 |
Switzerland | November 1, 1980 | Austria | November 1, 1991 |
Belgium | July 1, 1984 | Finland | November 1, 1992 |
Norway | July 1, 1984 | Ireland | September 1, 1993 |
Canada | August 1, 1984 | Luxembourg | November 1, 1993 |
United Kingdom | January 1, 1985 | Greece | September 1, 1994 |
Sweden | January 1, 1987 | South Korea | April 1, 2001 |
Spain | April 1, 1988 | Chile | December 1, 2001 |
France | July 1, 1988 | Australia | October 1, 2002 |
More detailed information about these totalization agreements can be found at http://www.socialsecurity.gov/international/.
Precisely. The agreements with other countries are a matter of routine and readily available upon request. They are of little or no public concern whatever -- yet they are certainly "public".
But the negotiated agreement with one state is kept under lock and key. Because it really is of public concern...and would be perceived as unnecessarily favorable to illegals and, thus, patently unfavorable to the U.S. citizen.
This is not a good sign...
What does this have to do with "Free Trade?"
Disgusting. Why don't they just call it what it is: an extra income tax! A wealth redistribution tax!
So We're all just surviving under "Tyranny" & "Corruption" huh?
That's what I like, someone with a fresh, positive outlook. With drive like that, we just can't lose!
...and the voters who placed them there.
Bread and circus, anyone?
"Why exclude Mexico?"
None of those other countries have a history of sending massive numbers of illegal immigrants to the US.
If by qualify they mean legal workers with their own Social Security number, this shouldn't be a problem. If they mean to include illegal workers who stole an American's Social Security number then I say hell no!!
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