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Bush pushes for spending control
CNN ^ | Janu8ary 3, 2007

Posted on 01/03/2007 7:46:07 AM PST by KantianBurke

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday asked the Democratic-controlled Congress to give the White House line-item veto power to control spending.

As he prepares to deal with an opposition Congress for the first time, Bush is also asking lawmakers to extend tax cuts.

Bush made the requests in a Rose Garden statement and in an opinion column published in Wednesday's Wall Street Journal.

The line-item veto would allow the president to cut specific spending from legislation without vetoing the entire bill.

In the opinion piece, Bush warned that the Democrat-controlled Congress risks stalemate if it resorts to "politics as usual" and tries to "pass bills that are simply political statements."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; lineitemveto; spending
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To: mysterio
Umm, what? Are you arguing that he's not the biggest spender since Johnson? I think the criticism in this case is pretty fair.

What I'm trying to say is that some are not looking at the whole picture to see what's going on and trying to find a solution to the problems in congress

For some it's just easier to bash

41 posted on 01/03/2007 8:13:22 AM PST by Mo1 (the violence will stop when US politicians step up to the plate and act united for victory and peace)
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To: USS Alaska

If all you have is a hammer, everythng looks like a nail.

Prescription drugs often cause as much harm as good. Just ask any doctor how many drugs they prescribe to lessen the side effects of the primary drug prescription. Plavix is a prime example.


42 posted on 01/03/2007 8:14:08 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Mo1
Forget it .. it's easier for y'all to just bash then to work on a solution

His solution is no solution, as has been pointed out to you. SCOTUS already shot this one down.

So, then, why would he bother promoting something that has been proven to be no solution? That in turn deserves bashing, especially since he hasn't tried YET to control spending with his existing veto power. If he had, I'd be more inclinded to think he was serious.

As it is, you seem to equate legitimate, factually-based criticism with bashing. Which means YOU really ain't serious about this subject either.

43 posted on 01/03/2007 8:16:20 AM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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To: Non-Sequitur
why wasn't there a need for earmark reform over the last 6 years

The 6.4 Trillion dollar question, to be sure.

Just about through with all politics here. The disgust factor with every single one of them is getting to be too much.

44 posted on 01/03/2007 8:18:48 AM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [This is some nasty...])
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To: sgtbono2002

"This is funny. If President Bush believes he will get a line item veto out of his bunch he has totally lost his mind."

He might just get it. First thing the RATS will do in 2008 if they win the whitehouse is push for it because they can then get what they want and shut out Republicans.


45 posted on 01/03/2007 8:22:11 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Lenin)
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To: KantianBurke
No line item veto. Never.
46 posted on 01/03/2007 8:23:58 AM PST by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: dirtboy
His solution is no solution, as has been pointed out to you. SCOTUS already shot this one down

The reason it was shot down by the SCOTUS was because Congress makes the law .. not the President .. he signs it into law

That line items veto that was shot down was done on a technicality, because it didn't give Congress the final say before passing it into law

The new version for the line item veto would at least give it a chance to throw out the stupid pork spending without killing the whole Bill .. which is what I thought conservative voters were aiming at

47 posted on 01/03/2007 8:24:24 AM PST by Mo1 (the violence will stop when US politicians step up to the plate and act united for victory and peace)
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To: goldstategop

Even if he found it, I'm sure the ink has dried up by now.


48 posted on 01/03/2007 8:25:01 AM PST by kenth (I wish compassionate conservatives were more compassionate to conservatism.)
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To: KantianBurke

PLEASE, SOMONE HELP ME!...STOP ME BEFORE I SPEND AGAIN!


49 posted on 01/03/2007 8:28:17 AM PST by lewislynn (!)
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To: Mo1

So educate us. What's the whole picture that you can see but we are not seeing. Clue us small picture folks in a little.


50 posted on 01/03/2007 8:30:03 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: billbears

Yep. These guys represent their Parties, not the people.


51 posted on 01/03/2007 8:31:06 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: KantianBurke
President Bush on Wednesday asked the Democratic-controlled Congress to give the White House line-item veto power to control spending.

Either he's playing some super transdimensional poker game against the Democrats, with 9 aces hidden up some space-time nooks and crannies, or he's losing it.

52 posted on 01/03/2007 8:32:30 AM PST by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: Mo1
The reason it was shot down by the SCOTUS was because Congress makes the law .. not the President .. he signs it into law

And what is Bush asking Congress to do?

Pass the law again. What is needed is a Constitutional amendment, not a law. So IMO he's not being serious here.

which is what I thought conservative voters were aiming at

Conservative voters would rather Bush not propose massive new spending programs and use his existing veto power more often against bloating spending bills.

53 posted on 01/03/2007 8:32:32 AM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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To: savedbygrace
So educate us. What's the whole picture that you can see but we are not seeing. Clue us small picture folks in a little

I suggest watching the House and the Senate and how they throw their pork spending projects into important Bills

If you watch and see how Congress plays their games .. you might learn a few things and possibly finding a solution other then giving control of Congress to the BIG $$$ spending Democrats

54 posted on 01/03/2007 8:33:29 AM PST by Mo1 (the violence will stop when US politicians step up to the plate and act united for victory and peace)
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To: dirtboy
And what is Bush asking Congress to do?

Forget it .. you have not read my posts or the points I made

Have fun with the Democrat Party

55 posted on 01/03/2007 8:34:46 AM PST by Mo1 (the violence will stop when US politicians step up to the plate and act united for victory and peace)
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To: savedbygrace

I thought kids would be back in school today. Maybe the jr high is just on this thread.


56 posted on 01/03/2007 8:35:49 AM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: KantianBurke

LOL!


57 posted on 01/03/2007 8:36:46 AM PST by KoRn
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To: Mo1
The reason it was shot down by the SCOTUS was because Congress makes the law .. not the President .. he signs it into law

Not correct. From a Washpost article at the time:

In a 6 to 3 decision, the court held that the line-item veto law violates a constitutional requirement that legislation be passed by both houses of Congress and presented in its entirety to the president for signature or veto.

SCOTUS also basically found that Congress did not have the authority to give away any of its enumerated powers to the president. That could only be done by Amendment.

It was a 6-3 decision. One of the dissenters was O'Connor, who is gone. Even if Alito echoes her vote and Roberts joins the minority, it would still be 5-4. So no dice.

58 posted on 01/03/2007 8:36:50 AM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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To: Mo1

I agree with you on the line item veto.

This one is based on the final action of congress and likely the SCOTUS would find it constitutional.


59 posted on 01/03/2007 8:38:55 AM PST by Current Occupant (DBM, Libs, 5th column,PC will destroy this country. Preach it TALKIES while you still can!!!!!!)
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To: dirtboy
SCOTUS also basically found that Congress did not have the authority to give away any of its enumerated powers to the president. That could only be done by Amendment.

Correct .. they don't have the authority to give away any of its enumerated powers

However .. if it was sent back to Congress after things were crossed off for a final passage .. then Congress isn't giving away their powers

60 posted on 01/03/2007 8:39:44 AM PST by Mo1 (the violence will stop when US politicians step up to the plate and act united for victory and peace)
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