Posted on 01/03/2007 7:46:07 AM PST by KantianBurke
What I'm trying to say is that some are not looking at the whole picture to see what's going on and trying to find a solution to the problems in congress
For some it's just easier to bash
If all you have is a hammer, everythng looks like a nail.
Prescription drugs often cause as much harm as good. Just ask any doctor how many drugs they prescribe to lessen the side effects of the primary drug prescription. Plavix is a prime example.
His solution is no solution, as has been pointed out to you. SCOTUS already shot this one down.
So, then, why would he bother promoting something that has been proven to be no solution? That in turn deserves bashing, especially since he hasn't tried YET to control spending with his existing veto power. If he had, I'd be more inclinded to think he was serious.
As it is, you seem to equate legitimate, factually-based criticism with bashing. Which means YOU really ain't serious about this subject either.
The 6.4 Trillion dollar question, to be sure.
Just about through with all politics here. The disgust factor with every single one of them is getting to be too much.
"This is funny. If President Bush believes he will get a line item veto out of his bunch he has totally lost his mind."
He might just get it. First thing the RATS will do in 2008 if they win the whitehouse is push for it because they can then get what they want and shut out Republicans.
The reason it was shot down by the SCOTUS was because Congress makes the law .. not the President .. he signs it into law
That line items veto that was shot down was done on a technicality, because it didn't give Congress the final say before passing it into law
The new version for the line item veto would at least give it a chance to throw out the stupid pork spending without killing the whole Bill .. which is what I thought conservative voters were aiming at
Even if he found it, I'm sure the ink has dried up by now.
PLEASE, SOMONE HELP ME!...STOP ME BEFORE I SPEND AGAIN!
So educate us. What's the whole picture that you can see but we are not seeing. Clue us small picture folks in a little.
Yep. These guys represent their Parties, not the people.
Either he's playing some super transdimensional poker game against the Democrats, with 9 aces hidden up some space-time nooks and crannies, or he's losing it.
And what is Bush asking Congress to do?
Pass the law again. What is needed is a Constitutional amendment, not a law. So IMO he's not being serious here.
which is what I thought conservative voters were aiming at
Conservative voters would rather Bush not propose massive new spending programs and use his existing veto power more often against bloating spending bills.
I suggest watching the House and the Senate and how they throw their pork spending projects into important Bills
If you watch and see how Congress plays their games .. you might learn a few things and possibly finding a solution other then giving control of Congress to the BIG $$$ spending Democrats
Forget it .. you have not read my posts or the points I made
Have fun with the Democrat Party
I thought kids would be back in school today. Maybe the jr high is just on this thread.
LOL!
Not correct. From a Washpost article at the time:
In a 6 to 3 decision, the court held that the line-item veto law violates a constitutional requirement that legislation be passed by both houses of Congress and presented in its entirety to the president for signature or veto.
SCOTUS also basically found that Congress did not have the authority to give away any of its enumerated powers to the president. That could only be done by Amendment.
It was a 6-3 decision. One of the dissenters was O'Connor, who is gone. Even if Alito echoes her vote and Roberts joins the minority, it would still be 5-4. So no dice.
I agree with you on the line item veto.
This one is based on the final action of congress and likely the SCOTUS would find it constitutional.
Correct .. they don't have the authority to give away any of its enumerated powers
However .. if it was sent back to Congress after things were crossed off for a final passage .. then Congress isn't giving away their powers
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