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They want to supply the needles to drug addicts with AIDS and who will supply the illegal drugs and the money to pay for the illegal drugs. Will these people be exempt from prosecution for possession? The addicts will continue to rob people and steal to pay for their drugs. The drug pushers will still be out there selling illegal drugs. Seems that the NJ Legislature and Corzine are fostering the illegal drug trade and helping the profits of drug cartels.
1 posted on 01/03/2007 2:18:37 PM PST by Coleus
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This turns the war on drugs inside out... Now the states are funding the drug use that they are trying to combat. < Inject more money here... >


2 posted on 01/03/2007 2:20:11 PM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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"This is an historic day for public health,"

More like 'A new low for public safety'


3 posted on 01/03/2007 2:23:00 PM PST by txroadhawg ("To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors." Ronald Reagan)
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oh, and how will this stop the spread of AIDS by sexual contact? Don't they know that men and women sell themselves for drugs and for money to buy drugs. But don't worry, they will have clean needles after whoring all night long.


4 posted on 01/03/2007 2:27:17 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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Condoms for rapists!


5 posted on 01/03/2007 2:34:24 PM PST by feedback doctor (Mark Sanford - 2008)
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now when the gays go to city hall for their domestic partnership papers they can swap out their needles during the same ceremony....

....well isn't that special....

6 posted on 01/03/2007 2:36:34 PM PST by Vaquero (Moderate Islam is Radical Islams Trojan horse in the West)
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Corzine said he believed Rice's opinions were "heartfelt," but disagreed with them, given the numerous government studies that claim syringe exchange reduces the spread of HIV and does not encourage drug use.

Do these programs reduce the spread of AIDS? The article doesn't present the opposition's response to Corzine's claim.

7 posted on 01/03/2007 2:39:42 PM PST by secretagent
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Before the obligatory "Liberdopian" or "Losertarian" remark come out, let me remind those that Libertarians oppose taxpayer funding & government intervention of this and prefer to have Darwin work its magic.


8 posted on 01/03/2007 2:42:25 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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Lets see.

A junkie is Jonesing in the middle of the night, when a running buddy stops by with a dime bag. He says, I'll split if I can use your outfit. The junkie naturally says, "Gee, I'm sorry, but I don't have any clean needles. Wait until tomorrow and I'll run down to the needle exchange bank."

It's not going to happen.


9 posted on 01/03/2007 2:46:30 PM PST by stop_fascism
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More "blue state" political goofiness.


10 posted on 01/03/2007 2:49:41 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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Just as long as people are not allowed to eat cheesecake the public health mission is accomplished.

I'm of two minds on clean needles for addicts. I understand that the use unsterile needles is a major risk factor in hepatitis and AIDs. But I think it is a bit naive to think that addicts ( hardly known for being responsible) will suddenly make sure they get a clean needle before they inject their next fix.

Also it does send the message that the only possible danger with drug addiction is blood borne illness. The addiction itself is glossed over as some kind of benign habit with no personal or social consequences.

I don't think drug addiction should be treated as a crime. However I see nothing wrong with mandatory treatment programs involving public and private agencies.
But I do think any public program that gives even the appearance of endorsing destructive behavior is on the wrong track.

Throwing condoms at AIDS will not stop it. Throwing clean needles at AIDS will not stop it. Only when certain groups of people change their actions will AIDs become a thing of the past.


11 posted on 01/03/2007 3:12:26 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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So now the taxpayers of New Jersey are paying for druggies' clean needles?


13 posted on 01/03/2007 4:23:00 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Coleus; Clemenza
They want to supply the needles to drug addicts with AIDS and who will supply the illegal drugs and the money to pay for the illegal drugs. Will these people be exempt from prosecution for possession? The addicts will continue to rob people and steal to pay for their drugs. The drug pushers will still be out there selling illegal drugs. Seems that the NJ Legislature and Corzine are fostering the illegal drug trade and helping the profits of drug cartels.

"Assembly Speaker Joseph Roberts (D-Camden) who co-sponsored the bill, asked for sympathy for the IV drug user, who 'clearly is leading a tragic, dysfunctional life' as well as 'the partners they infected who did nothing wrong, and the babies being born HIV-positive who deserve our help.'"

"'When we hear the debate on the other side, people talk about enabling criminal activity. What they really don't talk about are the innocent victims,' Roberts said."

This war on some drugs keeps having more unintended consequences. It helps to fund the comeback of the Taliban in Afghanistan. It screws up relations with Latin America. I don't see much difference with the failure of alcohol prohibition. Take the profit out of it by decriminalization or legalization, and organized crime won't be able to make money from it, besides dropping its retail price. They wouldn't need to inject heroin if they could smoke opium. They had Rockefeller drug laws before the war on drugs. You can't legislate or enforce morality.

Do needle syringe programs reduce HIV infection among injecting drug users: a comprehensive review of the international evidence.

This first international review of the evidence that needle syringe programs reduce HIV infection among injecting drug users found that conservative interpretation of the published data fulfills six of the nine Bradford Hill criteria (strength of association, replication of findings, temporal sequence, biological plausibility, coherence of evidence, and reasoning by analogy) and all six additional criteria (cost-effectiveness, absence of negative consequences, feasibility of implementation, expansion and coverage, unanticipated benefits, and application to special populations). The Bradford Hill criteria are often used to evaluate public health interventions. The principal finding of this review was that there is compelling evidence of effectiveness, safety, and cost-effectiveness, consistent with seven previous reviews conducted by or on behalf of U.S. government agencies. Authorities in countries affected or threatened by HIV infection among injecting drug users should carefully consider this convincing evidence now available for needle syringe programs with a view to establishing or expanding needle syringe programs to scale.

Here's a search strategy for PubMed:

needle exchange programs and HIV incidence NOT (HCV OR HBV)

Before the advent of Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Therapy, HAART, the average survival time after infection was about 10 years, with some folks lasting up to 20 years. The last time I checked HAART regimens cost over $20,000 a year per patient which is usually picked up by Medicaid.

15 posted on 01/03/2007 8:51:20 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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More of my hard-earned tax dollars, of which Corzine was quick to grab more of with tax increases, going to support the drug trade. My college-aged kids had 2 funerals to attend over the last week. One for a heroin overdose and the other due to a car accident because the driver had too much to drink.

Needle exchanges encouraging drug use won't stop these kinds of senseless deaths. The State of NJ should get out of the drug business now.
19 posted on 01/04/2007 1:44:12 PM PST by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel and Freerepublic Rocks!)
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