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ANOTHER CASE OF "FED UP"! (Vanity)
Personal Experience ^ | January 7, 2007 | Self

Posted on 01/07/2007 1:51:52 PM PST by Hostage

I married 14 years ago and just had my firstborn, a son, this past September.

I met my wife in medical school. She was originally from Lithuania and when I met her she was on a H1-B visa working as an adjunct professor of internal medicine.

She had made significant contributions to medical science and had been asked to lecture at med school for the year. That was 16 years ago in the afterglow of the world of Ronald Reagan. She became a naturalized US citizen in 1996.

We've had a real love affair ever since but children did not come easy for us and we had given up hope the year before last when suddenly our prayers were answered with a 'miracle'. There were no fertility treatments, nothing artificial, just natural in its occurance but unexpected.

The birth of our son has been a joy without limit and it continues to be so. But prior to knowing of the miracle to come we had lived for years in despair (most couples with fertility problems will know exactly what I am talking about).

During those years of despair there was one other person whose despair seemed greater than our own, that was my wife's mother who still lives with her family in Lithuania. She wanted so badly to be a grandmother. She prayed and prayed and prayed. When my wife would call her on Sundays, her mother would always cry and it always fell to my wife to calm her down. This constant weeping, in addition to our own despair, was more than we could take and as a result my wife began to look for excuses not to call her mother.

News of the coming arrival of our son made my wife's mother a changed person. She wanted to come immediately but my wife's father has a herniated disc and cannot move unless heavily dosed with painkillers. We are trying to save money to get for him an operation that we hope will give him many years of freedom to move his body. He would also like to see his grandson.

But grandmother was able to get her sister and her son to look after grandfather while she travels to the US to see her blessed treasure, her grandson.

So we bought her a roundtrip ticket on Scandinavian Airlines and she connected in Copenhagen before setting foot in Seattle last night.

Her son had taken her to the US consulate last week to make sure her visa was in order. As she does not speak English, he wrote her a note (he is fluent in English and works as an IT professional throughout Europe) to present to customs that she was traveling to see her grandson and numbers to call if there were any problems. On the note he wrote our names, address, telephone numbers. He also gave her a cell phone and called me the day before she left to make sure I had her cell number.

Last night grandmother was making her way through customs and we were outside waiting for her with our 3 month old son. We were waiting a longtime when suddenly my cell phone rang and it was a customs official telling me that they needed to contact the daughter of a person they were holding. Knowing they were referring to my wife's mother I said "no problem, her daughter is right here waiting with me" and I handed the phone to my wife.

The customs official asked my wife to talk to her mother and to tell her to answer the questions they were asking her. My wife said she does not speak English and asked what questions did they have for her. They said to ask her if she had any cigars, weapons and so on in her possession. My wife was then put on the phone with her mother and repeated what the customs official had asked. They then let grandmother go.

Grandmother came up an escalator into the international baggage claim area with tears in her eyes and she at once saw me, then my wife and the baby. I thought the tears were of joy but my wife later told me they were tears of fear, fear that customs was going to send her back to Lithuania. But there were also tears and smiles of joy as grandmother and grandson immediately fell in love.

Here's the story and the reason we are "fed up".

Customs had asked grandmother a series of questions and she could not answer. She kept telling them "no English, no English" but they took her out of line and then called for a detail to escort her to a retention room, a room that was according to grandmother a long long way through many doors and up and down many floors. In this room they made her strip to her bra and panties and would not allow her to make any phone calls. She was left in this room crying when the customs lady called us on my cell phone.

She was let go out of the retention room but no one escorted her back to the customs line. She had no idea where she was and how to get back to where she was, in other words she was lost. I haven't asked yet how she found her way out because she is bonding with her long awaited grandchild and I don't want to spoil the happiness we all have now by pressing her for details.

Today she is doting on her grandson and both are all smiles. But her impression of America or at least Seattle SeaTac airport is forever a memory of fear.

I asked her if things went well when connecting in Copenhagen and she said "Copenhagen good, Seattle no good".


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: harassment; lackingcommonsense; profiling; tsa
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To: Jaysun

I don't mind the delay. Leaving her by herself is not courteous, not showing her how to get out is downright inconsiderate. I live in Seattle, and SeaTac is damn near impossible to navigate without prior knowledge or English, especially the trains. But the strip search is beyond question outrageous. This women just got OFF the plane, so why strip search?

It's understandable that she considers Seattle's airport "bad." Especially since we don't question people pouring across the border.


41 posted on 01/07/2007 2:26:12 PM PST by UWconservative
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To: Hostage

If she was wearing a burqa they wouldn't have dared put her in a retention room.


42 posted on 01/07/2007 2:26:28 PM PST by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: paulat

Sorry for the unsolicited comment. Might I suggest that she used those words because they're the only ones she knows?


43 posted on 01/07/2007 2:27:11 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Hostage

Good point! Language Line offers Lithuanian translators.


44 posted on 01/07/2007 2:27:24 PM PST by Angelas
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To: Jaysun
Pay close attention: How does strip-searching innocents help find terrorists who know about the security procedures in advance, and who therefore would have to be as brain-damaged as an average federal employee to walk into a TSA checkpoint?
45 posted on 01/07/2007 2:28:15 PM PST by Mr J (All IMHO.)
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To: donna

It's very easy to put in a credit card swipe or collect a fee. People can accept that they have to carry $20 or so to get interpreter services in customs.


46 posted on 01/07/2007 2:28:27 PM PST by Hostage
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To: Hostage

Contact your Senator in tennies for immediate action....sarc/


47 posted on 01/07/2007 2:30:23 PM PST by lawdude (2006: The election"s we will live to die for!)
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To: donna
Why does the taxpayer have to pay for translators for any non-citizen? They should pay for their own costs when in this country.

More government workers is never the solution to a problem.


I didn't suggest that taxpayers pay for anything. If I understand him correctly the service is paid for by the caller. It isn't unreasonable to have translation services available at airports if we have them at ER rooms.
48 posted on 01/07/2007 2:30:25 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: definitelynotaliberal
Sorry for the unsolicited comment. Might I suggest that she used those words because they're the only ones she knows?

Hi, hon! I think you meant to reply to someone else.

49 posted on 01/07/2007 2:30:49 PM PST by paulat
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To: Joan Kerrey

I'm a legal immigrant. I have some stories too that I won't disclose in this forum. Not everything is determined by policy. There is a lot of leeway.

Don't be skeptical of what Hazard is telling us because of your strong belief in policy. You are right. Treating someone like that is certainl not policy, but he is telling you a truth which some of us have experienced.


50 posted on 01/07/2007 2:30:57 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: donna

They stripped you at the MVD and jury duty?


51 posted on 01/07/2007 2:33:37 PM PST by kenth (I wish compassionate conservatives were more compassionate to conservatism.)
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To: pandoraou812; UWconservative
There should be a way to deal with problems like this without stripping someone down to their underwear

Where does it say the woman had to strip?

THIS IS NOTHING!!! They asked the woman some questions and put her kids on the cellphone. JEEZ!!!

52 posted on 01/07/2007 2:34:28 PM PST by paulat
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To: Mr J
Pay close attention: How does strip-searching innocents help find terrorists who know about the security procedures in advance, and who therefore would have to be as brain-damaged as an average federal employee to walk into a TSA checkpoint?

That line of reasoning would suggest that strip searches are never fruitful. You ask how strip searching innocents helps, but how do we know they're innocents until after the search? And don't you think that doing away with them altogether would open the door for terrorist to hide things on their person?

Besides, I agreed that stripping her to her underwear was uncalled for.
53 posted on 01/07/2007 2:37:00 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: paulat

In the article it says "strip down to bra and panties."

???


54 posted on 01/07/2007 2:38:27 PM PST by UWconservative
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To: Hostage
Sorry for the inconvenience.

I traveled to Europe after 9-11-2001. Upon arrival at the Zurich airport I met a very nice officer who pointed an MP-5 sub-machinegun at me. Inadvertently, of course. /S/

If I were a terrorist, I would try to find any one and any way to do my business, including using your 75 year old mother-in-law.

My wife and 15 year old daughter went out of country last July and were searched. Stuff happens.
55 posted on 01/07/2007 2:39:23 PM PST by wmc-50 ("You can't get rid of poverty by giving people money." P. J. O'Rourk)
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To: paulat

Here's the story and the reason we are "fed up".

Customs had asked grandmother a series of questions and she could not answer. She kept telling them "no English, no English" but they took her out of line and then called for a detail to escort her to a retention room, a room that was according to grandmother a long long way through many doors and up and down many floors. In this room they made her strip to her bra and panties and would not allow her to make any phone calls. She was left in this room crying when the customs lady called us on my cell phone.


56 posted on 01/07/2007 2:39:58 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Hostage

I really don't think writing the President is going to do any good whatsoever. I'm sorry it happened, but it's over.


57 posted on 01/07/2007 2:40:51 PM PST by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: UWconservative
In the article it says "strip down to bra and panties."

Sorry...you are right...I missed that.

And I don't believe it for one instance.

58 posted on 01/07/2007 2:41:23 PM PST by paulat
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To: Hostage

This is absolutely outrageous. That poor woman. How can people be so stupid!

I am very glad your mother-in-law is with her much awaited grandson (and congratulations to you and your wife). I think you ought to contact your Senators.


59 posted on 01/07/2007 2:42:27 PM PST by Bahbah (.Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Hostage

You should definitely contact the airport manager but only as a courtesy. Don't expect him/her to be able to do much. His authority over customs officials will be extremely limited.

A letter to President Bush, other than as a comfort to yourself, is a waste of paper and ink.

Contacting the Lithuanian embassy/consulate and your congress critters is the best "official" means of getting a redress of your grievances.

Finding a sympathetic set of media types (TV, radio, and print) who can direct the glare of attention on the situation will act as a hot poker in the backside of your congress critters. A TV interview request to your congressman will rain down fireballs on the DHS people at and above SEATAC.

It would be interesting to see a count of how many arab men between the ages of 17 and 35 get the same kind of treatment as this Lithuanian grandmother. All of our government officials need to be constantly reminded that all the terrorists involved in attacks on US interests have been a part of the arab male group mentioned above.


60 posted on 01/07/2007 2:44:18 PM PST by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soulmate, CDBEAR. 25 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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