Posted on 01/08/2007 8:42:14 AM PST by jmaroneps37
My GOODNESS, FRiend, have you been in a timewarp for the last 30 years? THe "old" or MAINSTREAM MEDIA (old or MSM) has been shilling for the socialists for the last 25-40 years AT LEAST!!
Souter never was never a "conservative", never an originalist (Scalia, Thomas) as have been all of Bush's SCOTUS appointments - Roberts and Alito (as we held him to it). One more and we'd have the 5/4 majority we need; which now will not happen - thanks to...............? Two more Alitos and even the Libertarians would be disappointed with how originalist the SCOTUS would be.
"Conservatives" were in control and gave us no immigration That circus is a strong possibility with both Democrats and Republicans. The "brave new world" you mention is being pushed by both Democrats and Republicans...in other words, there is no longer any difference between Republicans and Democrats.reform..."Comprehensive" reform is amnesty."
Conservatives in the House blocked the "comprehensive" amnesty reforms of the Senate; a Senate bill that most Republican Senators did not back, but two few to impede a RINO-Dim majority.
"We gave up any meaningful role in the Middle East when Republicans abandoned the mission in Afghanistan to launch a Blitzkrieg in Iraq...without enough troops to accomplish the mission."
We never abandoned the mission in Afghanistan, we never drew any resource from that mission for the mission in Iraq (read Tommy Franks book - he debunks that myth). The troops needed for the invasion (initial occupation and control) and mopping up Saddam were enough, both of those benchmarks were obtained. The implementation of, control operations of and transition from the Provisional Iragi authority (Bremmer) mispent US resources and failed to more-quickly approach (a)Iraq's elected government and (b)faster mounting and training of new Iraqi police and military units. Three successful Iraqi elections must now be matched by the will power of the Iraqi elected government, with our help; and, God willing, it will be.
"That circus is a strong possibility with both Democrats and Republicans. The "brave new world" you mention is being pushed by both Democrats and Republicans...in other words, there is no longer any difference between Republicans and Democrats.
Only because the RINOs within the GOP are emboldened by the Dim majority; were that not the case the GOP conservatives in the House and Senate would be able to hold the line against desserting Iraq.
It took Britain ten years to pacify the actual insurgency in Malaysia, and they did not have Malaysia's neighbors directly aiding that insurgency either; as Iran, Syria and Saudi-based elements are doing in Iraq.
All wars are one by one party - the party that remains committed to winning and committed to the investment needed to back that goal. Period.
Please read the following from "Flopping Aces" weblog and comment. Unless you're a newly minted Catholic pacifist (your profile indicates you may be one, but your church used to believe in just wars and actually coined the phrase) that wants to be overrun by the Islamic faith, please actually debate what the article says:
Deputy Assistant to the President Peter Wehner has penned a primer on the basics concerning radical Islam. Not only should you read it, you should forward it to every family member, friend, and colleague who doesn't get the nature of the enemy we face.
This is a welcome, though long overdue, effort on the information front in the war. Many more like it would be welcome. Wehner's conclusion:
It is the fate of the West, and in particular the United States, to have to deal with the combined threat of Shia and Sunni extremists. And for all the differences that exist between them -- and they are significant -- they share some common features.
Their brand of radicalism is theocratic, totalitarian, illiberal, expansionist, violent, and deeply anti-Semitic and anti-American. As President Bush has said, both Shia and Sunni militants want to impose their dark vision on the Middle East. And as we have seen with Shia-dominated Iran's support of the Sunni terrorist group Hamas, they can find common ground when they confront what they believe is a common enemy.
The war against global jihadism will be long, and we will experience success and setbacks along the way. The temptation of the West will be to grow impatient and, in the face of this long struggle, to grow weary. Some will demand a quick victory and, absent that, they will want to withdraw from the battle. But this is a war from which we cannot withdraw. As we saw on September 11th, there are no safe harbors in which to hide. Our enemies have declared war on us, and their hatreds cannot be sated. We will either defeat them, or they will come after us with the unsheathed sword.
All of us would prefer years of repose to years of conflict. But history will not allow it. And so it once again rests with this remarkable republic to do what we have done in the past: our duty.
Well said.
Perfect.
I get it now. If you are conservative, you must vote centrist, or be labeled a conservative.
Yes, he made mistakes, but none fatal to our national security, in my opinion.
CFR turned out to be a pain, but then we might not have had the Swift Boat Vets for Truth. They put paid to any hope of Kerry getting elected.
We wanted legislation from him, but it was not going to be forthcoming from our elected dunces. He needed more support and he didn't get it from the right side of the aisle. He tried for social security reform and there she was, hitlery, standing and applauding that he didn't get reform.
He had no choice but to support Specter. He got some much needed votes from the bum before the election that he would never have had if the President supported Toomey. And you have to give Specter credit for getting the judges thru the committee.
We have to take the political situation for what it is......not what we want it to be.
Then don't waist your time voting. They are both controlled by the same elites who want the same results. This "Two-Party Cartel' has shut out any hope of a viable party getting traction. There is no push from conservatives to their ideals - only reacting to liberal crapola. All you need is to hear the pubbies in D.C. going along with bipartenship - ie liberalism. There is only one party but keep votng for these boobs & get these same results. As far a Kaliforneeaah the republicans sold themselves out with Ahrnold. They made the pubbie party absolutly irrevelant for a generation. The label of Arnie/Republican shows me to have nothing to do with that party. I'm sure others see this also.
From all that I read, the troops volunteer to go back, they understand their job, they feel they are accomplishing something good.
Re-enlistment among the troops who go to Iraq is extremely high.
Armchair generals have an agenda so I am suspicious of their pronouncements.
We had a president who meddled in the military operations in Viet Nam. Now we have a President who listens to his generals. If they were wrong, and they may have been, that will be corrected.
The actual war dead is about 2600 for the four years. Tragic but hardly what could have been. I'd say we've done darned well.
You can't get past the committees to bring in true conservatives. You must go to another party & this cartel has that option closed for all practical purposes.
In addition, all of the comments you -- and anyone else -- have made about the dangers of being "overrun by the Islamic faith" should be held up in the proper context to sum up the mess in Iraq perfectly. Allow me to cite a couple of direct quotes from a document that some people might recognize as the new Iraqi Constitution -- which was adopted in October 2005 and now stands as the law of the land as a result of our idiotic nation-building exercise.
Section I (Fundamental Principles)
Article 2
Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation . . . No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.
Section II (Rights and Liberties)
Article 22
Work is a right for all Iraqis so as to guarantee them a decent living.
Article 30
The state guarantee to the individual and the family -- especially children and women -- social and health security and the basic requirements for leading a free and dignified life. The state also ensures the above a suitable income and appropriate housing . . . The State guarantees the social and health security to Iraqis in cases of old age, sickness, employment disability, homelessness, orphanage or unemployment, and shall work to protect them from ignorance, fear and poverty. The State shall provide them housing and special programs of care and rehabilitation. This will be organized by law.
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So there you have it. If having the United States send several hundred thousand troops halfway around the world in 1990 to restore a royal family to one throne (Kuwait) and protect a second royal family on another one (Saudi Arabia) didn't make you cynical, then I would hope that having 3,000+ Americans lose their lives for the express purpose of establishing an Islamic state -- and a Marxist one at that -- in the Middle East would do the trick for you.
Every small bone given to conservatives was offset by bigger bones to the liberal opposition. Include the Dubai ports & Harriet Meirs & Bubba with papa Bush.
many heartfelt thanks for absolute truth of your post!! But should we call this sanctimonious nonvoting group of idiots 'conservative' or retain that noble label for voters only and call the nonvoters just useless and braindead !?!
Based on the level of snarkiness in your answer, I will assume that you didn't vote Republican, and that you're just beginning to figure out how badly you have screwed up.
That said, if you want the border secured, go ask Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid to do so.
That's funny, I thought elections were expressly about getting our governance to be what we want it to be.
You aren't going to get any of the things you say you want with the dems in charge... and with their penchant for changing the rules, we'll be lucky if the GOP is ever in charge again.
Did you catch Souter and Scalia on C-Span Saturday? Very interesting debate. Those two are as far apart as the FR and the DU.
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