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United Flight 23 on 9-11
History Channel | 1-6-2007 | Self

Posted on 01/10/2007 10:21:56 AM PST by TruthWillWin

Saw a documentary, "Grounded on 9-11" on the History Channel a few days ago that mentioned something major about 9-11 that I have not heard before.

At 9:00AM on 9-11 United Airlines sent to all planes a warning message regarding the other hijacks. On United Flight 23, that was on the runway, the captain decided on his own not to take off. He fakes a mechanical problem and returns to the gate!

When the passengers were asked to exit the plan three Middle Eastern men, or possibly as many as six, refuse to follow the request to deplane. Security is called but they flee before it arrived. Later, authorities check their luggage and find copies of the Koran and al-Qaeda instruction sheets.


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911hijackers; flight23; historychannel; sept11; terrorism; ual; united; unitedflight23
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If the information on the documentary is accurate another hijacking may have been prevented.

Why have not we heard more about this?

What has been done to find the possible terrorists?

Were there security camera pictures of these individuals? If so why were they not shown to the public for possible identification and capture?

1 posted on 01/10/2007 10:21:58 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: TruthWillWin

I did a google and yahoo search and found very little on this.


2 posted on 01/10/2007 10:23:53 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: TruthWillWin

Interesting, if true.

What was the itinerary?


3 posted on 01/10/2007 10:24:05 AM PST by stevestras
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To: TruthWillWin

I watched that and wondered the same thing. Their names (at least their fake names and maybe their real ones) would have been on a passanger list for that flight, and the airline would have had info as to how they paid. I wondered why they didn't go after them, or maybe they did and we just haven't been told.


4 posted on 01/10/2007 10:24:32 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: TruthWillWin

I think it's entirely possible that there were other highjackers on 9/11. I don't know anything about what you saw.


5 posted on 01/10/2007 10:24:51 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: TruthWillWin

They're in protective custody by the dems. Staying at the Ritz Carlton in Boston.


6 posted on 01/10/2007 10:24:51 AM PST by albie
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To: jan in Colorado; USF; Fred Nerks; vince2285; backtothestreets

Did anyone else see this documentary or hear about this in the last 5 years?


7 posted on 01/10/2007 10:26:32 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: stevestras
What was the itinerary?

Not sure. Information I posted was all that was said. The documentary was one hour long and this part of it was only for about a minute. I have a DVR so I backed it up and watched it numerous times to make sure I got it right.

8 posted on 01/10/2007 10:27:10 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: TruthWillWin

I hope they're guests at Club Gitmo.


9 posted on 01/10/2007 10:27:25 AM PST by Spok
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To: TruthWillWin

Which airport was this at?


10 posted on 01/10/2007 10:27:48 AM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: TruthWillWin
This is mentioned in the United 93 movie also. Seems pretty clear another hijacking was prevented.

Why isn't this more prominent? Well, you'd have to look at the MSM and 911 Commission agendas. We have to make fun of the President reading to the kids, not give his administration any credit.

11 posted on 01/10/2007 10:28:26 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Spok

I hope they're fertilizer.


12 posted on 01/10/2007 10:28:32 AM PST by AngryJawa ({NRA}{IDPA} Proud Infidel Since 1968)
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To: Just A Nobody
Here's one thing I found when I did a search:

http://www.house.gov/list/hearing/il10_kirk/news040414_flight.html

13 posted on 01/10/2007 10:28:35 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: TruthWillWin

only God and the gov't are aware of exactly how many planes were SUPPOSED to be involved. Four were actually taken over and I've heard it mentioned, with no proof, that other targets were in chicago and LA..I'm afraid we the little people will NEVER know exactly how big this thing was supposed to be..


14 posted on 01/10/2007 10:29:50 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: TruthWillWin
MORE DETAILS ON THE STORY BELOW:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117425/posts

15 posted on 01/10/2007 10:29:57 AM PST by paltz
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To: Just A Nobody
I heard about this shortly after the 9/11 attacks. I thought I heard about it concurrently with other news that day or very shortly after and heard no more.
16 posted on 01/10/2007 10:30:12 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: daybreakcoming
Which airport was this at?

Newark to LAX.

17 posted on 01/10/2007 10:30:15 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: TruthWillWin

This incident or a very similar one was reported here. No time to hunt for the link, but I distinctly remember a posting on this.


18 posted on 01/10/2007 10:30:15 AM PST by omega4412 (Multiculturalism kills. 9/11, Beslan, Madrid, London)
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To: cripplecreek
"I think it's entirely possible that there were other highjackers on 9/11."

Wasn't there also a story about a few MEs that were stranded in St. Louis (I think) when their plane was grounded and they hopped a train to somewhere other than their original flight destination?

Just poking at my memory banks trying to recall what that story was about...

19 posted on 01/10/2007 10:30:28 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: TruthWillWin

Briefly mentioned here:

http://www.house.gov/list/hearing/il10_kirk/news040414_flight.html


20 posted on 01/10/2007 10:30:52 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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UA 23

Currently UA Flight 23 is a New York - Los Angeles flight.
8:55 AM departure, 12:05 arrival.


21 posted on 01/10/2007 10:31:46 AM PST by elpinta (Starting to miss the ol' USA - but still is the best place to live, lets keep it that way!)
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To: stevestras; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
What was the itinerary?

I looked around and found that it was a Boston - LAX flight according to some info from Cooperative Research's timeline...

22 posted on 01/10/2007 10:32:09 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: TruthWillWin

Currently, Flight 23 is from JFK to LAX with a scheduled departure time of 8:55 am.


23 posted on 01/10/2007 10:32:24 AM PST by TMD (Get Planned Parenthood out of our schools!)
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To: omega4412

I did a search and found nothing here but that does not mean it has not been mentioned.


24 posted on 01/10/2007 10:32:24 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: TruthWillWin

Was this a flight out of DFW, delayed by a cargo net issue?
(if it's not, then there were at least two other planes they planned on hijacking that day)


25 posted on 01/10/2007 10:32:25 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: TruthWillWin
There's an interesting discussion here and it's already been discussed here on FR. I also found a mention of it here from a 9/14/2001 story.
26 posted on 01/10/2007 10:32:46 AM PST by weef
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To: TruthWillWin

Was this the plane from St. Louis?

There is a lot about 9-11 that has not been released and wonder now if it ever will be.


27 posted on 01/10/2007 10:33:14 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Take Back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: Hatteras

On 9/11 I remember thinking that there could be more who were unable to carry out their attacks due to planes being grounded, too many people on the plane, or simple cowardice.


28 posted on 01/10/2007 10:33:51 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: TruthWillWin

There was one leaving St. Louis for DFW that had similar MO.


29 posted on 01/10/2007 10:34:33 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Take Back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: TruthWillWin

Nothin' more to see here laddies. Move along.


30 posted on 01/10/2007 10:35:02 AM PST by Ieatfrijoles (110%)
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To: weef

It's just mind boggling that something so major has remained under the radar.


31 posted on 01/10/2007 10:35:14 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: cgk
Newark to LA.

Kirk is adamant that Ballinger did save the passengers and crew of United Flight 23, which on Sept. 11 was about to depart from Newark, N.J., to Los Angeles. Kirk believes Flight 23 was going to be commandeered.

32 posted on 01/10/2007 10:35:22 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: TruthWillWin
Successes in the WOT are taboo subjects. Failures receive 99% of the DBM attention. In any news media other than that which we have in the United States, the passengers of Flight 93 would already have a federal Monument dedicated in their honor and in place commemorating their sacrifice and the incalculable amount of lives and damage their heroism averted.

Has anyone projected the catastrophic damage to our nation if that plane would have hit the capital building or worse yet the White House?

Why just the SYMBOLIC damage alone would have been devastating!!

33 posted on 01/10/2007 10:35:30 AM PST by PISANO
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To: ElkGroveDan

Wow- that guy should have gotten a medal of honor.


34 posted on 01/10/2007 10:35:32 AM PST by Red Boots
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To: Hatteras

St. Louis was the one I was thinking about as well. I remember the same thing!


35 posted on 01/10/2007 10:35:48 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Take Back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: TruthWillWin
Wow, and this was allowed to pass through the censors at the Hitler Channel? Unbelievable! Ahhh, Yes the History Channel where Hitler lives and he's now a Republican.

Yumm Yumm, the History Channel where the despot Joseph Stalin is just good "Ol'Uncle Joe".

Yakity Yak, Cub'er is a worker's paradise and little Gonzaliz is better off there, because they have universal healthcare.

Weel beat my wife Mo'hammed,islame was responsible for the wretched West's rise in the Rennisence and those suicide bombers are just "freedom fighter's

" Boom,boom ,boom, radical environmentalism and world citizenship is the highest goal that a young person in America can aspire to these days.

Okay spleen emptied

Thank You

36 posted on 01/10/2007 10:35:51 AM PST by STD (Rough Sailing Directly Ahead)
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To: TruthWillWin
Second wave.....Certainly sounds possible.

Whoever called for grounding all planes made a very strategic decision. Have to think Cheney made the call along with "Or, shoot'em down!!"

37 posted on 01/10/2007 10:35:57 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: TruthWillWin

We all hear rumors. I too wondered why we didn't hear more about possible hijacks which didn't take place because of decisive action on the part of the airports and controllers. I had to conclude (of course I don't know) our law enforcement took names and reviewed passenger lists from that day and eventually this led to other 'halts' to later terrorist events by terrorists unable to complete their missions on that fateful day.


38 posted on 01/10/2007 10:36:08 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: TruthWillWin

Very shortly after 9/11, I did read that it was determined that several other planes were possible targets, but in all the confusion, when the planes were grounded, the passengers deplaned along with terrorists, and none were caught.

I remember they said that a plane in Atlanta was involved.

Flight 23 is scheduled to leave from JFK to LAX at 0855.


39 posted on 01/10/2007 10:36:37 AM PST by toldyou
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To: TruthWillWin

Makes you wonder what their intended target would have been....shudder.


40 posted on 01/10/2007 10:37:16 AM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: Just A Nobody

It has played several times on the History Channel.


41 posted on 01/10/2007 10:38:02 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: TruthWillWin

I recall hearing similar things shortly after 9/11, as well, such as unknown middle eastern men in flight apparel who were dead heading, but disappeared after flights were grounded.


42 posted on 01/10/2007 10:38:19 AM PST by Tree of Liberty (Islam delenda est)
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To: paltz

Oh that poor man, Ed Ballinger. What a load to carry. He needs to know he did a REALLY GOOD JOB!


43 posted on 01/10/2007 10:38:22 AM PST by Thywillnotmine
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To: PhiKapMom

My wife and I got a firsthand account (from a passenger) of a flight leaving DFW. It was delayed by a problem with the cargo net. By the time the issue was fixed, the attacks were underway and the flight was grounded.

The ME passengers took off and were later arrested trying to board an Amtrak, IIRC.


44 posted on 01/10/2007 10:38:26 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: TMD

My husband had a business acquaintance who was scheduled to fly from Toronto to San Jose/SFO (can't remember which...) that morning-9/11. His plane was grounded and he told my husband that there were 3-6 'suspicious' types who deplaned and disappeared (i.e. no attempt to reschedule/make other arrangements as all the other passengers were trying to do). Coincidence? Perhaps.....


45 posted on 01/10/2007 10:39:05 AM PST by TMD (Get Planned Parenthood out of our schools!)
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To: SMARTY

Yes you did - I did too. And I think it WAS on 9-11 that it was mentioned.


46 posted on 01/10/2007 10:39:14 AM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: TruthWillWin

Thank you.


47 posted on 01/10/2007 10:39:43 AM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: TruthWillWin

On and shortly after 9-11-01, supposition was that up to 10 flights may have been targetted and had terrorist groups onboard. For various reasons, they were not all able to accomplish their missions. Some speculated or had info that planes taking off on both the east coast and west coast were targetted for hijacking.

IIRC, Flight 93 had a delayed take-off. That was what allowed those passengers to later find out that attacks were underway.

There was a group of ME men who missed a plane in San Antonio (IIRC), and took Amtrack to St. Louis.

We have no idea how many actual terrorist plots were supposed to take place that day.

The original plot, sized down by bin Laden, had planes also in Europe/England being hijacked. That part apparently was cancelled.


48 posted on 01/10/2007 10:39:50 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: stevestras
Newark to L.A.
49 posted on 01/10/2007 10:40:07 AM PST by Mr.Unique ("Are you gonna propose? Because if you're not, quit staring at me!")
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To: TruthWillWin
>>>Why have not we heard more about this? <<<

I remember hearing this shortly after 9-11. Story lasted not more than a day or two and then dropped off the radar.

The MSM deciding Americans didn't need to know - no harm no foul?? Maybe?

50 posted on 01/10/2007 10:41:29 AM PST by HardStarboard (Give Pelosi and Reid Enough Rope to Hang Themselves.)
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