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Bush adding 21,500 troops to Iraq force - LIVE thread- speech 9pm EST
Yahoo/AP ^ | 1-10-07 | TerenceHunt

Posted on 01/10/2007 2:30:20 PM PST by STARWISE

Unswayed by anti-war passions, President Bush will send 21,500 additional U.S. troops to Iraq and build the American presence there toward its highest level to quell worsening bloodshed. The move puts Bush on a collision course with the new Democratic Congress and runs counter to advice from some senior generals.

Set to announce his decisions in a prime-time speech Wednesday night, Bush was to acknowledge making major mistakes in Iraq, primarily failing to deploy enough U.S. soldiers and demand more Iraqi troops and cooperation to confront the country's near-anarchy.

In advance of Bush's address, White House counselor Dan Bartlett said U.S. military operations have been "handcuffed by political interference by Iraqi leadership" — but now will proceed under rules allowing troops to confront Shiite militias as well as Sunni insurgents.

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The new Democratic leaders of Congress met with Bush and complained afterward that their opposition to a buildup had been ignored. "This is the third time we are going down this path. Two times this has not worked," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. "Why are they doing this now? That question remains."

Senate and House Democrats are arranging votes urging the president not to send more troops. While lacking the force of law, the measures would compel Republicans to go on record as either bucking the president or supporting an escalation.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bush; iran; iraq; presbush; syria; troops; wot
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To: Candor7

McCain and Lindsey Graham are supporting the President. So no, all of those remaining aren't on the list.


1,601 posted on 01/11/2007 5:30:19 AM PST by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!  )
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To: beyond the sea
Yes, Sean has his dozen or so catch phrases and talking points in his head and seldom sees beyond them. He must improve his skills, especially on the radio. (jmo)

I agree 100%. I can't listen to him anymore.

I record Laura Ingraham on XM and play it back after Rush. Much more satisfying.
1,602 posted on 01/11/2007 5:30:20 AM PST by Leo Farnsworth
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To: Leo Farnsworth
I agree 100%. I can't listen to him anymore.

I also agree. I've never listened to him and when I tried I had to turn him off after 5 minutes.

1,603 posted on 01/11/2007 5:31:47 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Acts 17:11 also known as sola scriptura.)
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To: angcat

Soon :)


1,604 posted on 01/11/2007 5:33:17 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: PhiKapMom

In the last 2 years, I was really disappointed with some of the big talk radio show hosts who are on our side. I hope they have realized that they have contributed to the demoralizing of many Republican voters and that they will not do this anymore in the future.


1,605 posted on 01/11/2007 5:36:02 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jwalsh07
I would disagree with you re Blair. While I'm not a total fan of all he's said and done, in the long run, he recognized what was necessary, and stepped up to the plate, against probably the wishes of 90%+ of the Labour party, and supported us in the War in Iraq. I think that Blair has, like Bush, a vision of what must be done to save western civilization, and that also explains why he has decided to remain in office, thwarting attempts to get him to step down. Why?..Iran. Look, the clock is ticking..Bush knows that Iran' nuclear ambitions MUST be stopped before he leaves office. The Israelis know it also...they can't do it alone, without US support..well, they could, but it would be much more difficult..and Blair will I expect, support the action and contribute forces..

So count back with me...Any military action against Iran MUST be concluded several months before the 2008 election..thus you're looking at late spring, early summer 2007 as the latest possible date. So let's say May/June 2007. You'll need several months to position forces, especially naval, to deal with possible Iranian attempts to disrupt the Straits of Hormuz...So the final decision must be made late in 2007..

1,606 posted on 01/11/2007 5:37:30 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Txsleuth
"I just saw Robert Reich on CNN..and he said that Pres. Bush doesn't have the competence to take on Syria and Iran.."

Was he standing on a milk crate or sitting in a child's booster seat?

1,607 posted on 01/11/2007 5:42:29 AM PST by verity (Muhammed is a Dirt Bag)
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To: angcat

Yes, but the terrorists in Iraq are not the ones who attacked us on 9-11. Osama and al-Queda attacked us.

/s


1,608 posted on 01/11/2007 5:42:48 AM PST by petercooper (Cemeteries & the ignorant - comprising 2 of the largest Democrat voting blocs for the past 75 years.)
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To: DungeonMaster; Leo Farnsworth; OldFriend; Current Occupant; Fawn
I agree 100%. I can't listen to him anymore. I record Laura Ingraham on XM and play it back after Rush. Much more satisfying. ..... I also agree. I've never listened to him and when I tried I had to turn him off after 5 minutes.

LOL.

Try saying anything like that on one of the daily Vanity/Hannity threads.

That Hannity fan club on those threads have the thinest, most brittle skin of ALL FReepers, Rush's thread fans are right behind them.

;-)

Oh well.

I wish Mark Steyn would take over for one of them. He was substituting one day for Rush and was BRILLIANT, humorous, and very easy to listen to!

1,609 posted on 01/11/2007 5:44:44 AM PST by beyond the sea ( World Ending - Children and The Poor Hit Hardest)
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To: beyond the sea

Mark Steyn was excellent subbing for Rush. Hannity's whole show is catch phrases and talking about what's coming up on the show in the next hour, next week or next month. Ugh.


1,610 posted on 01/11/2007 5:48:11 AM PST by petercooper (Cemeteries & the ignorant - comprising 2 of the largest Democrat voting blocs for the past 75 years.)
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To: beyond the sea
Caught a late night re-run of Ingraham last evening and she had Mark Steyn on her program.

In my opinion he is the best pundit in the country right now. Bar none.

Articulate, good sense of humor, and supremely intelligent.

No ranting, no vulgarity, just an all around good guy who loves freedom and America.

1,611 posted on 01/11/2007 5:49:56 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: ken5050
Aircraft carriers already moving into place in the middle east.

You had to have seen David Gergin wetting his pants over the president's mere suggestion that Iran and Syria best knock it off.

Oh my, the President threatened them. Oh my, the sky is falling.

If it wasn't so serious it would have been hilarious.

1,612 posted on 01/11/2007 5:52:43 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: petercooper

LOL

Banging head on desk!


1,613 posted on 01/11/2007 5:54:01 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: OldFriend

The carriers have to be in place in case Iran does something stupid...which is always possible..but that doesn't signify that our clock is now running. The greatest fear I have with Iran is the lack of command and control..IOW could some fringe element try to launch..


1,614 posted on 01/11/2007 5:57:24 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Enchante

The louder and the more ugly the Rats scream and condemn the President's strategy, the more I am all for it. They just cannot get over that they are not in charge of the WH, that "their guy" is not CINC. And I say GREAT! Now get over it!


1,615 posted on 01/11/2007 5:58:14 AM PST by nfldgirl ("I love a good rant every now-n-then!")
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To: OldFriend
EXACTLY.

If he were the main spokeman/talkshow host of the conservative side, we'd have a much better chance to win elections.

Hannity and Rush are too sanctimonious, self-righteous and needlessly confrontational.

1,616 posted on 01/11/2007 6:02:19 AM PST by beyond the sea ( World Ending - Children and The Poor Hit Hardest)
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To: ken5050
If Iran really had something to launch they'd have been silent all this time.

All this posturing by Imanutjob is simply that, posturing by a loon.

1,617 posted on 01/11/2007 6:06:45 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: sonic109
The MSM and MTV run the show these days.

Add to that The View, Jerry Springer, and a whole list of other mind-numbing, self-idolizing, anti-character building garbage and we are left with an electorate incapable of understanding the simple fundamentals of what we are faced with in this country. I am like you...I think we are doomed also, but I'll go down fighting as well!

1,618 posted on 01/11/2007 6:09:03 AM PST by nfldgirl ("I love a good rant every now-n-then!")
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To: ken5050; Howlin; Miss Marple; Dog; onyx
Laura Ingram is trashing the President speech ... saying he didn't go far enough .. how he's a terrible speaker and he should have explained more about how pulling out of Iraq will have a direct effect on our security

That girl can kiss my butt!
1,619 posted on 01/11/2007 6:16:37 AM PST by Mo1 (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC AND DONATE)
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To: beyond the sea
I've notice that Libertarians are another really sensitive group.

When I hear Hannity all I hear is a Rush wannabe using cheap one liners to get people's attention. The last thing I heard him say was to tell everyone to go buy a hugh SUV and thank God for all the wealth He has given us.

1,620 posted on 01/11/2007 6:20:10 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Acts 17:11 also known as sola scriptura.)
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