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Carter critics stifle Middle East debate
Capital Times ^ | 1-11-07 | John Nichols

Posted on 01/11/2007 6:12:16 PM PST by SJackson

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To: oldenuff2no

Carter has now crossed the last line imo.


21 posted on 01/11/2007 6:45:20 PM PST by Carolinamom (Thank God that Mary and Joseph were not pro-choicers.)
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To: SJackson

oh please!

James Taranto Best of the Web (free online Wall Street Journal content) has a great report today on 14 more members of the Carter Center advisory group, resigning over the contents of that book which they say in part

"In the past you would inject yourself into this world to moderate between the two sides in the pursuit of peace and as a result you earned our admiration and support. Now you repeatedly make false claims. You wrote that UN Security Council Resolution 242 says that "Israel must withdraw from territories" (p. 38), but you know the word "must" in fact is not in the resolution. You said that since Mahmoud Abbas has been in office there have been no peace discussions. That is wrong. You wrote that Yassir Arafat told you in 1990 that, "The PLO has never advocated the annihilation of Israel" (p. 62). Given that their Charter, which explicitly calls for Israel's destruction, was not revised until the late 1990s, how could you even write such a claim as if it were credible?"

let's see the MSM report THIS!


22 posted on 01/11/2007 6:53:44 PM PST by IOWAfan (Hawkeye msg board... moral victories... let the fighting begin!)
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To: Nervous Tick
Carter is only a longtime friend of Iranian terrorists to whom he gave power
when he sacked the Shah for not giving expected payola to the DNC when it was "due".
23 posted on 01/11/2007 6:56:00 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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self ping. The guy is a slimer.


24 posted on 01/11/2007 7:15:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("I've learned to live with not knowing." -- Richard Feynman https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SJackson
So why is Carter, a longtime friend of Israel and the Jewish people, being smeared as an anti-Semite for suggesting that the occupation by Israeli forces of Palestinian territory inspires troubling comparisons with the apartheid

That's far more bigotted than anything Pat Buchanan has ever said, yet he is widely considered an anti-semite by the left.

25 posted on 01/11/2007 7:43:51 PM PST by Always Right
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To: SJackson

Jimmy Crater is an anti Semite. Is that permissible to say? This idiot's plan for peace will weaken Israel enough for the Muslims (who fund the Carter presidential center) to move in for the kill. Carter either wants this or is too stupid to figure out the end game

Just look how this moron Carter forced the Shah out and gave us the Islam crazies who now rule Iran


26 posted on 01/12/2007 12:28:34 AM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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To: Salem; unionblue83; M. Espinola; F15Eagle; RoadTest; T.L.Sink; Yehuda; Nachum; SunkenCiv; ...

Jeeze Louise.......pass the Pepto alert!


27 posted on 01/12/2007 6:34:47 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (Memo to Olmerde: "GET THE HELL OUT OF BIBI's HOUSE!")
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To: LowOiL
They both know right wing Christians are bigots, they consider that factual, not judgement....LOL< like the judgement you just pronouced?

Maybe that's unfair to Clinton, but there's no doubt in my mind that Carter considers right wingers bigots.

28 posted on 01/12/2007 7:28:28 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: Arcy
I have reported you SJackson. You're clearly a bigot with a comment like that about people of faith.

Excellent, perhaps FR will ban everyone critical President Carter and President Clinton. Might change the tone of the place a bit.

29 posted on 01/12/2007 7:31:31 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: dennisw
Jimmy Crater is an anti Semite. Is that permissible to say?

Maybe. But remember he explained he wasn't attacking the "Jewish media", rather the "Christian media" which supports Israel. I think he's just never met a terrorist he doesn't like.

30 posted on 01/12/2007 7:46:30 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: SJackson
Maybe that's unfair to Clinton, but there's no doubt in my mind that Carter considers right wingers bigots.

Ok, I wasn't quite sure how to take your comment earlier, but it seems you were "tongue in cheek" sorta replying for Clinton and Carter instead of yourself.

I was hoping that was the scenario.

I perhaps was partially to blame bringing in another subject about Carter (and Clinton) and integrating it into this subject.

Clinton and Carter have basically came out guns blazing for Christians in this thread...

Clinton, Carter to Lead Faction of Baptists Away from Biblical Truth on Life and Family

I sorta incorperated the two into one comment. You were not clear as to if you were supporting their "bigot" comment or just making a remark as if on their behalf in TIC(tongue in cheek) fashion.

Anyhoo, I think we are on the same page now.

31 posted on 01/12/2007 9:00:37 AM PST by LowOiL (Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9))
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To: LowOiL
Clinton and Carter have basically came out guns blazing for Christians in this thread...

Yes they have. And don't forget Carter's way of denying his books allusionss to a Jewish conspiracy in and control of the media and government to benefit Israel. He said he wasn't promoting that standard anti-semitic canard, rather the blame lie not with Jews, but with the Christians in the media and government who support Israel. Just what media Carter is reading, I haven't a clue.

32 posted on 01/12/2007 9:06:33 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: LowOiL
Clinton, Carter to Lead Faction of Baptists Away from Biblical Truth on Life and Family

That's funny, Jimmy and Bills Evangelical Church, where you can lust in mind and body. Unless Clinton is speaking and giving autographs, I doubt they'll get 20,000 attendees.

33 posted on 01/12/2007 10:54:21 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: SJackson
Jimmy Crater is an anti Semite. Is that permissible to say?

Maybe. But remember he explained he wasn't attacking the "Jewish media", rather the "Christian media" which supports Israel. I think he's just never met a terrorist he doesn't like.

Jimmy Carter has always been an anti Semitic rat as far as I'm concerned. At the Camp David accords he bullied Israel and pushed them a lot more than the Egyptians. The people that surround him have never been pro Israel and pro Israeli survival. Israeli survival is a non issue for Carter and his minions they like Arab Muslims, do business with Arab Muslims like Bert Lance. This and other things make him an anti Semite. Especially since he is a very public anti Israel figure. Some little  who doesn't like Israel isn't necessarily an anti Semite

34 posted on 01/12/2007 12:51:21 PM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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To: dennisw

I would agree, but before this book he never let it all hang out. The "*uck the Jews" comment, and his "final solution" comment for Israel had he been re-elected, but these were hardly covered. It's also worth noting after getting 71% of the Jewish note in 1976, he dropped to 45% in 1980, so someone was paying attention.


35 posted on 01/12/2007 1:03:54 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: SJackson

Iran has been plaguing Israel for decades. And who made sure the Shah (a friend of Israel) was gotten rid of? Jimmy Carter. Of course Iran is a menace to more than Israel these days. Intentionally and by his astounding stupidity & naiveté Jimmy Carter has made life more difficult for Israel


36 posted on 01/12/2007 1:17:38 PM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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To: Arcy
I have reported you SJackson. You're clearly a bigot

I think you've misinterpreted SJackson. The poster wrote:

They both know right wing Christians are bigots, they consider that factual, not judgement.

This might have been clearer had the poster instead written:

They both "know" that right-wing Christians are bigots - they consider that factual, not judgement.

I think SJackson was simply (correctly) explaining Carter's and Clinton's view, not his or her own. At least that was my read.

37 posted on 01/12/2007 1:32:36 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: SJackson

Wow... I count one distortion or outright lie in each of the first four paragraphs so I stopped reading there. It's tripe.

jw


38 posted on 01/12/2007 1:36:09 PM PST by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: M. Thatcher; Arcy

Thanks, I don't think it's an issue. Lot's of folks post before fully reading/comprehending a comment.


39 posted on 01/12/2007 3:07:44 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: M. Thatcher

And yes, I think Carter considers right wing Christians bigots. I'd include Jew, Muslims, Wiccans, et al, but there aren't as many. Clinton, probably not, he's looking for popularity.


40 posted on 01/12/2007 3:09:13 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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