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Rice warns Iran after US nabs Iranians in Iraq
AFP ^ | 1/12/07 | AFP

Posted on 01/11/2007 7:19:29 PM PST by mdittmar

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice warned Iran that the United States won't "stand idly by" if Tehran tries to disrupt Washington's renewed effort to stabilize Iraq.

Speaking hours after US troops detained six Iranians in a raid in northern Iraq, Rice said Washington was determined to crack down on Iran's "regional aggression."

Rice declined to comment specifically on the operation in the northern city of Arbil, which came shortly after President George W. Bush announced a new US strategy to end the violence in Iraq that included stepped up moves to counter Iranian and Syrian involvement in the country.

In a spate of television interviews and testimony in Congress to defend the new Bush plan for Iraq, Rice declined repeatedly to rule out US military action against Iran -- accused by the administration of supporting anti-US insurgents and Shiite radicals in Iraq and of trying to develop nuclear weapons.

"I don't want to speculate on what operations the United States may be engaged in, but you will see that the United States is not going to simply stand idly by and let these activities continue," she said in one interview.

Tensions between Washington and Tehran have soared since Bush in 2002 branded Iran part of an "axis of evil" alongside Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

Last year, Washington pushed successfully for UN sanctions against Iran in a bid to halt its uranium enrichment program, which the US says is aimed at producing nuclear weapons while Iranians say they only want to make atomic energy.

In Wednesday's speech, Bush fed fears of possible US military strikes on Iran by announcing the deployment of an additional aircraft carrier group to the Gulf and the supply of Patriot anti-missile systems to nearby allies.

"We will interrupt the flow of support from Iran and Syria. And we will seek out and destroy the networks providing advanced weaponry and training to our enemies in Iraq," he said.

Rice defended the Gulf military deployments as needed to assure US allies they "have the defense capacity that they need against a growing Iranian military buildup."

She also said Bush in his speech was referring to taking action against Iranian and Syrian operatives inside Iraq.

"Obviously, the president isn't going to rule anything out to protect our troops, but the plan is to take down these networks in Iraq," she said.

Democratic Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and a fierce critic of the Iraq war, warned Rice that Congress -- controlled by the opposition since November elections -- would intervene if Bush turned his sights on Iran.

"I believe the present authorization granted the president to use force in Iraq does not cover (Iran) and he does need congressional authority" to order military strikes against that country, he said.

In her testimony, Rice also reaffirmed the Bush administration's refusal to open a dialogue with Iran on stabilizing Iraq, as strongly recommended last year by the bipartisan Iraq Study Group and many foreign policy experts.

She said the Iranians would seek in any such talks to obtain concessions in the standoff over its nuclear program in exchange for help in Iraq.

"That's not diplomacy, that's extortion," she said.

Bush critics jumped on the latest Iraq measures as signs of a looming new conflict with Iran.

Bush "appears to be setting the stage for a wider war in the region," said Democratic congressman Dennis Kucinich. "Isn't one war enough for this president?"

"The worst possible scenario in this crisis is the breakout of an armed confrontation between Washington and Tehran, said Abdulaziz Sager, chairman of the Dubai-based Gulf Research Center, adding that such action would "have serious security ramifications for the region".

US military officials meanwhile confirmed that six Iranians were arrested in Arbil on suspicion of "activities targeting Iraq and coalition forces".

Last month US forces detained two Iranian nationals suspected of weapons smuggling in Baghdad, but they were later released.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: condirice; iran; iraq
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To: mdittmar
"I believe the present authorization granted the president to use force in Iraq does not cover (Iran) and he does need congressional authority" to order military strikes against that country, he said.

That may be, but the President has full authority to respond to attacks on our troops, which is what Iran is in effect doing, by supplying those who actually pull the triggers or push the buttons.

Besides there is the little matter of that other Congressional Authorization for use of Force, against the terrorists. The one passed on 2001 Sep 18. The pertanent sections read:

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the `Authorization for Use of Military Force'.

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

(b) War Powers Resolution Requirements-

21 posted on 01/11/2007 8:54:12 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

I heard General Pace today say that our Army is stretched because of rotations and with some rotation adjustments our Army will have ample troops to take care of any situation.


22 posted on 01/11/2007 9:04:38 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: flaglady47

I think Neil Cavuto has the werewolf cut, but it's okay on him. He's cute.


23 posted on 01/11/2007 9:14:14 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: mdittmar
Tensions between Washington and Tehran have soared since Bush in 2002 branded Iran part of an "axis of evil" alongside Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

Oh yeah, and before George W. Bush became President, we were just the best of friends and allies. /sarc

24 posted on 01/11/2007 9:24:49 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: AmericanExceptionalist
Bush "appears to be setting the stage for a wider war in the region," said Democratic congressman Dennis Kucinich. "Isn't one war enough for this president?"

Apparently Dennis was sleeping during the President's speech to the nation after 9/11. The President said that we would go after the terrorists and the countries that harbor them.

Kinda slow on the uptake isn't he? It's taken him 5 years to figure out that this war is more than just about Iraq.

25 posted on 01/11/2007 9:29:39 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: mdittmar

In Iraq, In Lebanon....

26 posted on 01/12/2007 12:01:54 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: CurlyBill
The DemonRATs hates the military and everything it stands for. If the military succeeds in bringing Democracy to Iraq, it gives the military a victory that gives it justification for existence. The DemonRATs would rather see all international disputes be solved with diplomacy. They see the military as a outdated method for solving one nation's dispute with another. If the military were cut back, the billions budgeted to the military would be available for their own concentration of power. It is what they call converting guns to butter.
27 posted on 01/12/2007 12:30:25 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: mdittmar
Do we have an Easter (or even St. Patrick's Day) surprise in store for Iran?

As for Babblin' Biden, tell him this is grownup talk and he should go play with the other babies.

28 posted on 01/12/2007 12:36:31 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (I'm pretty sure the phrase life is too short doesn't exist in Islam-Dennis Miller)
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To: popdonnelly
I like Bush's attitude. Too bad the rubes won't support it.

Screw the rubes. Let 'em sit around in their ivory towers and lament the lack of utopian idealism in the real world.

The adults can take care of this.

Better late than never.

29 posted on 01/12/2007 3:25:39 AM PST by Allegra (Vote Dulcie / Finbar 2008)
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To: Southack
Hopefully this trend shall now continue. Heaven only knows how many EID's are still being planted, with triggermen hiding in some hole in the wall with beady eyes, just waiting.
30 posted on 01/12/2007 5:43:41 AM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: mdittmar
...its uranium enrichment program, which the US says is aimed at producing nuclear weapons while Iranians say they only want to make atomic energy.

How does this crap get past proofreaders?

31 posted on 01/12/2007 8:09:31 AM PST by Steve0113 (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -A.L.)
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To: El Gato
"we tarred and featured them"

An Irish immigrant by the name of Lynch was the fellow
who made tar and featuring famous. Hench lynchings.
He had a disdain for the English and their sympathizers.

For the past 6 years, the Dems have been using the same
figurative practice upon GWB as a means to show their
disdain of him and anything conservative. Now that we
are in the minority on the hill, it's our turn to
verbally smack the hell out of the opposition....JJ61
32 posted on 01/12/2007 11:54:40 AM PST by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: SuziQ

"Tensions between Washington and Tehran have soared since Bush in 2002 branded Iran part of an "axis of evil" alongside Saddam Hussein's Iraq."

The socialist media and Democrats said the same thing about USSR - USA relations after President Reagan called the USSR the "evil empire". We all know what happened to the USSR.

If it were up to the Democrats, the USSR with its vast arsenal of nuclear weapons would still exist - we would still be facing nuclear mutually assured destruction - and if it were up to the Democrats, Saddam Hussein would still be in power torturing, commiting mass murder, and providing weapons and a safe haven for terrorists.


33 posted on 01/12/2007 12:02:59 PM PST by pleikumud
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To: mdittmar

What took us so long?


34 posted on 01/12/2007 12:11:01 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Southack

The answer to your question will say alot.


35 posted on 01/12/2007 2:21:18 PM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: Southack
South,

I think 1) we are into the "last 10%" issue, which is that we've probably killed 90% of the enemy already, and they are flat running out of men. The last 10% will be the hardest, but also, because there are fewer, will proportionately see casualties on our side plummet.

2) The election eve hostilities were their version of Tet, and any sensible person knows what happened to the VC and NVN in Tet. They got annihilated.

3) They rolled their dice on a political shift---not understanding our system (not to mention Pres. Bush)---and thought that their efforts would pay off immediately. Even if the Dems want to cut funding immediately (which they don't), it would take them months to actually see the fruits of this on the battlefield.

36 posted on 01/14/2007 11:22:12 AM PST by LS
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To: LS; Dog; Marine_Uncle; section9; Nick Danger
We've had 13 named dead U.S. fatalities so far this year (it's already the 15th in Iraq)...less than 1 per day.

Last month it was at least 3 every day and 4 dead on several days.

That's quite a shift. Is it because we are targeting (and getting) the Iranians inside Iraq? Is it because Saddam Hussein is now dead and his Ba'athists no longer have a powerful figure for whom to fight?

Is it because President Bush's new surge (started at the end of last month) is doing what he promised?

Some combination of the above?

But *something* has clearly changed. Now, if all of this had changed in December, then I'd be wondering if Al Qaeda, Iranians, and the Ba'athists were just laying low after the Democrats won in November...

...but it didn't. December saw some of the highest fatalities yet. None of the warring parties laid low after the election here.

Another point, Al Qaeda and the Iranians were unable to aid the Islamic Court against Ethiopia in Somalia. Moreover, Al Qaeda's leadership called for jihad there, wasn't able to back it up, and hasn't (been able to??) commented on their enormous loss there in the meantime.

If the "laying low" theory was in play, then Zawahiri would *not* have called for jihad against Ethiopia. He would have laid low.

In sum, it very much **appears** as though the sum of the insurgency in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Somalia has had its back broken between the end of December and today.

Al Qaeda has proven unable to hit the U.S. or Ethiopia during critical battlefield moments (e.g. in Somalia), yet has made what appear to be desperate pleas for global jihad there.

In Afghanistan, the Taliban and Al Qaeda control nothing more than a few remote, rural caves. The much vaunted Offensive there failed to dislodge any "crusaders." Little girls still go to school there and the Taliban can only gnash their own teeth in response.

In Iraq, U.S. fatalities have plunged to 1/3 of their December average.

In Ethiopia and Somalia, Al Qaeda and its allies are smashed, cowering, and hiding in the few instances where they haven't been slaughtered.

Nor have any of the related parties been able to take the global jihad into Israel itself...the crown jewel of the jihad.

At every turn we see weakness, defeat, desperation, and despair among the radical Islamists.

37 posted on 01/14/2007 4:17:55 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack; bnelson44; jmc1969; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Dog; smoothsailing; freema; SandRat; ...
From post #37, Southack:
I have been thinking along very similar lines. I did not add up the short term time frame you indicate. Thanks. That further supports my recent thoughts (same as yours 100% for each geographic area mentioned).
Notice also how we hear nothing about Islamic radical groups causing any trouble in the Philipines, Malaysia, Indonesia, southern pacific rim etc..
It is like they are running out of steam as governments in these lands are taking the fight to them. Where not that long ago, they often acted with impunity, no fear of getting caught.
Grant one. Lebanon for instance has the potential of quicly becoming a hot bed once again, yet we hear little if any minor disturbances in that country.
Even the Gaza strip and other parts of Pali land seem to have shut down. Is it that the people are starting to realize the Islamic goons are the worst enemy of muslims.
Interesting things are starting to appear. I do hope we are not premature in this way of thinking.
And surely a number of the ruling party under the Mullahs in Iran are itching for a fight. But even there. We see some valid indications that they are starting to get a bit worried or more then a bit, over how Almadinejah with the blessings of his mystical Mullah Jezi, are perhaps lining them up to have their petrochemical plants, other industries, and many of the nuclear facilities that can be destroyed, flattened.
They are not stupid. They realize the useful idiots as Stalin used to call them, in the west such as the Pelosi crowd can only go so far in denting any plans this administration has from a military view point.
38 posted on 01/14/2007 7:30:02 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Marine_Uncle
"They are not stupid."
irrelevant. They operate in their own frame of reference [like everybody else]. These frames are NOT automatically transferrable, and frequently do not make much sense when viewed from the outside, for their order of values and priorities is different.
39 posted on 01/14/2007 7:46:28 PM PST by GSlob
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To: CurlyBill
This speaks volumes.

Speaks volumes about what a nincompoop Bush is.

He should be attacking his domestic enemies, Biden , Levin, Schumer, Kennedy should be in jail or scared crapless to open up their big stupid socialist mouths lest they be destroyed politcally or just dispatched like Putin or Castro do with people who are dangerous.

Instead Bush lets them wage a propaganda war at home that they just about have won.

Hell of a way to support the troops by letting the enemy run an unopposed PR war at home.

40 posted on 01/14/2007 8:00:00 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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