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Card Player Online ^ | Tuesday, January 16, 2007 | Card Player Online

[jpl]

But they knew of the new U.S. law, and it is apparent, they SHOULD NOT HAVE COME into the U.S. until the law gets changed.

Or, maybe their arrest is by design, to test the new law. We will have to wait and see.

The purpose of arresting somebody should be because that person actually broke an existing law, not to test out a new law that's just been passed.

I personally own some stock in U.S. contracting firms. I would sure hate to go to another country and find myself getting arrested while stepping off the plane because that country decided that the Iraq war was "illegal", just to give one possible example.

It isn't too hard to understand sometimes why other countries increasingly see us as arrogant.

[Ghengis]

Because it was sneaked thru Congress is a major reason why it was not a reason for the GOP loss. Even though every vote counts the GOP a best lost a handful of votes because of this stupid legislation.

I don't believe that you are aware of the numbers of organized online players who lobbied against this bill. And then became politically active in opposition to the bill's proponents. It is quite a number that were driven across the aisle.

[ccmay]

Tell your two Republican buddies who stayed home to go pound sand. I have nothing to say about this topic, but your brag about two sanctimonious whiners is very ironic, given your statements in the post below.

Don't shoot the messenger, pal. I was annoyed with them and told them so. I'm not "bragging" about anything. But in an election in which 55,000 more votes nationwide would have preserved a Republican majority in both houses of Congress, it was sheer lunacy for our side to pander to the casino owners and Bible thumpers like this.

-ccm

[sheana]

Unless it is by Western Union to Mexico or the rest of Latin America, then they make it easier.

[frogjerk]

I don't believe that you are aware of the numbers of organized online players who lobbied against this bill. And then became politically active in opposition to the bill's proponents. It is quite a number that were driven across the aisle.

I'm not aware of the numbers. Educate me.

[org.whodat]

People downplayed the ban on internet gambling but this is a major reason the dems won so many seats in congress this last election. Sneaking the bill through on the sly and making it illegal for Americans to gamble on line was a dispicable move and done mainly by Republicans and it pissed a lot of republicans off.There is no difference between these freedom grabbers and the liberals.

ROFLOL

[sergeantdave]

I feel much better that facilitators of poker games are off the streets, while Mr. Moosehamhead in some mosque is free to plan bombings of a mall or school.

[ARA]

I think you are
right...

[calex59]

Laugh all you want, this was a big issue with many republicans. I, personally, know 10 people who were pissed off enough by this sneaky move on the Republicans part to vote constitutional party. Multiply this across the country and you have a number of people who are very upset by this freedom sucking move. If you don't like to gamble, then don't. To deny it to people who want to gamble is BS, this was organized by Nevada and other gaming interest here in the US. This country is about freedom and the republicans are supposed to be the party that guarentees those freedoms, instead they are banning internet gambling, trying to take our guns and backing liberal moves with every breath they take.

Stick with them if you want. I, for one, will vote constitution party from now on, sooner or later they will supplant the Rino republican party. If you can't see that then I pity you, you are the one who deserves the laugh for sticking with a party that is no different than the Dems except for the name.

[calex59]

Because it was sneaked thru Congress is a major reason why it was not a reason for the GOP loss. Even though every vote counts the GOP a best lost a handful of votes because of this stupid legislation.

Sorry, it was sneaked through but didn't remain secret for long. It cost the republicans lots of votes, add these to the votes lost because of discontent with the non-conservative actions of a number of republicans and you have the makings of a lost election, which indeed happened.

[oceanview]

good comparison.

[Phantom Lord]

I agree that a lot of GOP voters were angered by the Internet Gambling bill. Not specifically because it took away peoples ability to play online poker for money (that was part of it, and the main reason for some). But because it was a big government, nanny state law that just further diminished our freedoms. The opposite of what the GOP is supposedly about.

Outside of a few select matters it is truly becoming difficult to make a credible case that the two major parties are distinctly different.

[JTN]

Ping

[Ghengis]

I'm not aware of the numbers. Educate me.

In a short amount of time, The Poker Players Alliance has gained membership to over 100,000 members. Mostly as a response to this legislation. According to whomever you believe, U.S. online poker players numbered somewhere between 20 million to 70 million players.

Now take the 20 million number and estimate that 25% of those regular online players were royally PO'd by the legislation. Let's guess that 25% of those are registered, likely voters. Them's a few votes my friend. And I think those 25% speculative numbers are probably below the real numbers.

Here's a link that supports some of the numbers. I have seen higher, but I'll go conservative for the sake of argument.

[seacapn]

Well, I can't speak for everyone, but I do know of five people in Montana who voted against Conrad Burns, and a lot of it had to do with this exact poker ban. Burns voted for it. These were regular but casual online poker fans, with middle-class jobs, and then the Republican-led Congress jammed its nose through the door and told them that their conduct was illegal under American law.

Now, in a state with a libertarian streak like Montana, you can imagine why that didn't go over very well.

The poker ban - the law itself, the timing, the method - was just unforgivably stupid. I'd put a lot of the blame down on Bill Frist, who made sure this thing became law weeks before the elections.

[Lancey Howard]

bttt

[Hugin]

They passed it because Jim Leach had a bug up his butt about internet gambling, and Bill Frist wanted to be president. Frist agreed to ram through the bill by any means necessary, in exchange for Leach's support in the Iowa caucuses. So Frist ended up attaching it at the last minute to the port security bill. Then Leach lost his election with polls showing the net loss of support from the on-line gaming bill as more than the margin of victory. Oops. Then Frist realized he doesn't have a snowball's chance of getting nominated, let alone elected and goes back to being a doc. Really smart.

[jpl]

Believe me, they don't call us "the stupid party" for nothing.

[Ghengis]

I just double-checked who I was replying to. Since you own the ping list, I am sure you already knew these numbers.

But I do disagree that the number of votes lost due to online poker players getting screwed was insignificant.

[traviskicks]

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