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Rare criticism from Baghdad against President Bush
Euronews ^ | 1/18/07

Posted on 01/18/2007 6:02:35 AM PST by TexKat

The US has also today come in for unprecedented criticism from the Iraqi Prime Minister. He has told a UK newspaper that he wishes that Baghdad could receive strong messages of support from the US. Nuri al-Maliki said Iraq's need for US troops could fall in three to six months if Washington equipped Iraqi security forces with sufficient weapons. He is also reported to have told an Italian paper that President Bush has never been in a weaker position than he is today. He is quoted as saying that it is the administration in Washington facing demise, not the Iraqi government.

Meanwhile, at least 10 people have been killed and 25 wounded in a series of car bombings in Baghdad today. The attacks come as Iraqi officials prepare to launch a security crackdown in the capital. At least 120 people were killed in bombings yesterday and on Tuesday.


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1 posted on 01/18/2007 6:02:36 AM PST by TexKat
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Maliki: U.S. could cut forces in months

BAGHDAD, Jan. 18 (UPI) -- The United States could cut troop levels in Iraq in months if it provided sufficient guns and equipment to Iraq, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said.

Maliki told the London Times U.S. reluctance to supply such items has cost many Iraqi lives and prolonged the insurgency in Iraq.

The United States has been wary of handing over large amounts of military equipment to Iraqis, the newspaper said, because it often ends up in the hands of insurgents and militias.

"If we succeed in implementing the agreement between us to speed up the equipping and providing weapons to our military forces," Maliki told the newspaper, "I think that within three to six months our need for American troops will dramatically go down."

Maliki said Iraq would benefit from "strong messages of support" from the United States, suggesting that criticism gives support to terrorists.

"I believe that such statements give moral boosts to the terrorists and push them towards making an extra effort and making them believe that they have defeated the American administration," he said, "but I can tell you that they haven't defeated the Iraqi government."

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20070118-121902-4204r


2 posted on 01/18/2007 6:03:57 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
"...he wishes that Baghdad could receive strong messages of support from the US. "

For the most part, they've received just that. Now that the 'Rats are in control, however, all bets are off. That isn't the President's fault, unless he caves in too.

3 posted on 01/18/2007 6:05:19 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Dog; SunkenCiv; jmc1969; bnelson44; Marine_Uncle

Nouri al-Maliki and George Bush at a press conference last year. Photograph: Shawn Thew/EPA

Maliki hits out at lack of US backing - Guardian Unlimited

4 posted on 01/18/2007 6:06:46 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: MizSterious
Iraqi leader wants more and better U-S equipment - Fox 12

ROME Iraq's prime minister is blaming the security crisis in his country on the Americans.

Nouri al-Maliki (NOO'-ree ahl-MAHL'-ih-kee) says Iraqi forces would have had better control over their country if the U-S had equipped them with better weapons and more of them. In an interview published today in Italy, the Iraqi chief stops short of criticizing President Bush's plan to send in more than 21-thousand additional troops. But he says things would be a lot better if the U-S had properly supplied his forces from the start. He says there would have been a lot fewer Iraqi and U-S deaths.

But al-Maliki also holds out hope that the situation in Iraq "will drastically improve" because of the U-S buildup, clearing the way for American troops to start leaving "in three to six months."

5 posted on 01/18/2007 6:10:27 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Then it is time to move out and prepare to defend Israel. Enough of this bull! The little Iraqi government will last maybe two weeks once we leave. Open up the Gulf, Alaska, and other tapped areas and be done with this insanity. Make it harder for Muslims to get VISAS and let's move on.
Call me a bigot but enough is enough!
6 posted on 01/18/2007 6:21:53 AM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: TexKat

what horsefeathers! Such turbulent air!
Iraq wants the weapons, has sided with Iran, give them weapons and they'll kill americans. Let their oil revenue buy the infrastructure, social goods, utilities, policing and weapons. Why should it all be at the expense of Uncle Sam?


7 posted on 01/18/2007 6:24:42 AM PST by himno hero
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To: TexKat
-"The United States has been wary of handing over large amounts of military equipment to Iraqis, the newspaper said, because it often ends up in the hands of insurgents and militias."

Is this true?

If this is TRUE...then we're just there now trying to prop up a hapless bunch, and should get out and let them figure out how to fight for their own freedom (assuming they even want that).

If this is NOT TRUE...then why DON'T WE DO JUST THAT and let them FIGHT FOR THEIR OWN FREEDOM against their own terrorists!

8 posted on 01/18/2007 6:25:54 AM PST by The Bronze Titan
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To: TexKat

Prime Minister Maliki: Kgetting guns from the US and then using them to kill off your political enemies, the Sunni's, and to pay off old debts in order to achieve 'peace' is not democracy. This would be called 'Saddam Hussein' Part II. As a world leader, you are required to act like a humanatarian who believes in basic human rights etc etc.

I'm sure President Bush would gladly give you guys weapons if he thought you were an honorable world leader. The politcal benefit alone would be well worth it.

Instead of being a grateful man, leading a grateful nation, you choose to put a stick in the eye of the principles of freedom and humaity. You're leadership will expose the entire Arab world to ridicule as it will prove inself completely incapable of reasoned non-violent politcal dialogue.

The next time the US comes back (2-5 yrs from now because of some out of control whack-job), it will likely be with much more anger and resolve. For that time it will not be in the name of humanity. It will be in the name of victory. And, this victory will be very painful to the entire middle east....


9 posted on 01/18/2007 6:28:12 AM PST by Firefox1
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To: himno hero

Someone here claims that Iraq had 70,000 tanks that are now just mising. Let them buy their own weapons. They have money.


10 posted on 01/18/2007 6:29:22 AM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: TexKat
Nuri al-Maliki said Iraq's need for US troops could fall in three to six months if Washington equipped Iraqi security forces with sufficient weapons.

Meaning, if we arm his Shiite militia friends and let them wipe out the Sunnis, the problem will be solved. Uh...no thanks.

11 posted on 01/18/2007 6:30:20 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: The Bronze Titan
If this is TRUE...then we're just there now trying to prop up a hapless bunch, and should get out and let them figure out how to fight for their own freedom (assuming they even want that).

I have no doubt there are Iraqis who are good and just, and want very much to a establish a real, functioning democracy in their country.

I just think US analysts greatly overestimated their numbers prior to the invasion.

Same goes for Iran, which seems to have passionate advocates for reform everywhere among its expatriate community - but when you look closer they are dwarfed by the number of poor Iranians who back the mullahs.

12 posted on 01/18/2007 6:38:39 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: TexKat
Let me caption a remark by President Bush...

"Look here Mal... have you ever had to have a Cowboy boot surgically removed from your arse"?

LLS
13 posted on 01/18/2007 6:39:30 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Paige

The little Iraqi government will last maybe two weeks once we leave.

And Then what? Before you suggest something you should always ask "And then what?".

Call me a bigot but enough is enough!

I won't call you one, I will say you've not thought this out. It appears to me that you're reacting emotionally, never a good idea, when dealing with geo-politics.


14 posted on 01/18/2007 7:06:05 AM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin
No, I've well thought this out. First of all, I do not want our troops in a War with a Democrat Congress. The last time this took place was during Vietnam and we have over 57,000 body bags sent home. Please do not try to talk down to me or try to act as if we should stay in a place we are not wanted....it makes your questions irrelevant.

As for Iraq, I blame the Conservatives for not being zealous enough to stand up and be heard. Whoever may win this Culture war will win by who is the most Zealous and the Moonbats are leading in this area.

Maybe emotion would help a few Conservatives...being dogmatic, staying home and not voting has certainly shown those Democrats! Who I might add are the ones using our military to further their goals.
15 posted on 01/18/2007 7:53:25 AM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: Paige

to act as if we should stay in a place we are not wanted....

We're not?


Nothing wrong with emotion. But emotions must always be kept on a very short leash, they do interfere with clear thought..


16 posted on 01/18/2007 8:04:12 AM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: himno hero

Al-Maliki fiddled for so long while Bagdad burned and now he wants to blame Bush. Maybe the same thing will happen to Al-Maliki that happened to Nero.


17 posted on 01/18/2007 8:10:52 AM PST by conservative blonde (Let's call the Jr. Senator from Illinois by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: conservative blonde

the fiddling is an intentional sideshow to drain Uncle Sam's resources. The poor bastards think America is worndown , which is real funny. Sure, you have the leftists and the dems that have contributed to the shaping of public opinion. One more 9-11 and the parties WILL come together and there will be biblical proportioned events!

I was jokingly suggesting to some acquaintances that if Cocoa Cola wanted to go to war, they could marshall more resources than Iraq. Iran and the mideast have no knowledge of what exists over here.... the bredth and depth of capital.


18 posted on 01/18/2007 8:33:56 AM PST by himno hero
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To: TexKat; Berosus; Cincinatus' Wife; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ..
He has told a UK newspaper that he wishes that Baghdad could receive strong messages of support from the US. Nuri al-Maliki said Iraq's need for US troops could fall in three to six months if Washington equipped Iraqi security forces with sufficient weapons.
IOW, Maliki is a nut job. An insulting nut job. The Iraqi gov't can barely be trusted to protect its own police stations and politicians, and won't crack down on extralegal paramilitaries who just happen to be (supposedly) on its side. In addition, the US has shed blood there for years.

OTOH, after Iran is liberated, the need for a US presence will be obviated.
19 posted on 01/18/2007 9:54:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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To: TexKat
What does this title...
Rare criticism from Baghdad against President Bush
have to do with what was said???

Maliki said Iraq would benefit from "strong messages of support" from the United States, suggesting that criticism gives support to terrorists.

"I believe that such statements give moral boosts to the terrorists and push them towards making an extra effort and making them believe that they have defeated the American administration," he said, "but I can tell you that they haven't defeated the Iraqi government.

These are not criticisms against President Bush, but against the anti-war POLITICIANS and ENEMEDIA personnel.

20 posted on 01/18/2007 10:37:04 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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