Posted on 01/18/2007 11:52:35 AM PST by lowbridge
Is he still alive? The last time I saw him on tv a few years ago he wasn't altogether in the upstairs department.
Oh this thread is going to be good.
Happy Birthday Draft Dodger
Draft dodgers run away to escape the consequences of their position. He didn't.
Draft Dodging hypocrit, left wing nut job.....a NONE hero in my book.
Meadow Muffin
If I could have been Liston's manager....Liston would have won. But the so-called greatest got beat by Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Leon Spinks, and Larry Holmes. Jimmy Young beat him decisively but lost via a corrupt decision.
Parkinson's disease tends to do that to a person.
So what did he do?
I think I could whoop his ass.
He stayed and took the consequences.
I thought Gorilla Monsoon was responsible for Ali's condition.
He was actually at the Orange Bowl for the coin toss.
Ali's arguments against joining the military, because Islam is a peaceful religion, sure sound ironic now.
I'm not a big Ali fan, but he did endorse President Reagan in 1984.
He refused to serve in the United Staes Military. In other words dodged the draft when this country had a draft. Not all that hard to understand.
Happy Birthday, Champ!
The Ali phrases and rhymes are still in my memory from childhood:
"It might shock and amaze ya,
but I'm goin' beat Joe Fraza'
"I am the greatest of all time"
"Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee
ain't nobody better than M. Ali"
"It's hard to be humble when you're great as me"
Champ, thanks for the memories!
Clay v. United States
Docket: 783
Citation: 403 U.S. 698 (1971)
Petitioner: Clay
Respondent: United States
Case Media
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Written Opinion (Justia)
Abstract
Oral Argument: April 19, 1971
Decision: June 28, 1971
Subjects: First Amendment, Conscientious Objectors
Advocates
Chauncey Eskridge (Argued the cause for the petitioner)
Erwin N. Griswold (Argued the cause for the United States)
Facts of the Case
Board No. 47, Louisville, Kentucky, denied the application of Cassius Clay, also known as Muhammad Ali, for classification as a conscientious objector. Clay then took an administrative appeal to the Kentucky Appeal Board, which tentatively classified him I-A, or eligible for unrestricted military service, and referred his file to the Justice Department for an advisory recommendation. The Justice Department concluded, contrary to a hearing officer's recommendation, that Clay's claim should be denied. The Department wrote that Clay did not meet any of the three basic tests for conscientious objector status; that he is conscientiously opposed to war in any form, that this opposition is based upon religious training and belief, and that this objection is sincere. Subsequently, the Appeal Board denied Clay's claim, but without stating its reasons. When Clay refused to report for induction, he was tried and convicted of willful refusal to submit to induction. The Court of Appeals affirmed.
Question
Was Cassius Clay's induction notice invalid because it was grounded upon an erroneous denial of his claim to be classified as a conscientious objector?
Conclusion
Yes. In a per curiam opinion, the Court held that since the Appeal Board gave no reason for the denial of a conscientious objector exemption to Clay, and that it was impossible to determine on which of the three grounds offered in the Justice Department's letter that board relied, Clay's conviction must be reversed. The Court reasoned that Clay satisfied the first two tests of conscientious objection. Regarding the third test, the Court concluded that whether or not Clay met the test of conscientious objection to war in any form, it was not clear that the Appeal Board relied on some legitimate ground in denying the claim, and therefore the conviction could not stand. In separate opinions, Justices William O. Douglas and John M. Harlan concurred. Justice Thurgood Marshall did not participate.
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